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goinginfected
13-12-2013, 07:48
~~~ Hope this is the right category for this.

Ok so I dont plan on doing heroin any time soon as I'm only 17 and have almost no experience with opiates. I have an idea in my head about what it would feel like, but really would like to hear about it first hand. So how does it feel, is it something worth trying one day? How would I go about doing it the first time, and what steps what I need to take to make sure I'm safe? Also does it have any hallucinogenic or psychedelic/dis-associative affects? :?(I dont handle psyches well at all anymore due to some bad trips). If it's relevant, my drug experience is mainly with cannabis, mdma, cocaine, and lsd.:)

Rybee
13-12-2013, 08:22
Should arguably go in basic drug discussion, seeing as it is basic drug discussion %)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/forums/16-Basic-Drug-Discussion

I've never tried heroin, only gone up to morphine, but I do have a question. I regularly take 60mg of Morphine but no longer get high off of it, I hardly get the warm and fuzzy feeling. Though I get the impression that although tolerance is an issue with Heroin, it's always depicted as the user still getting quite a euphoric high. Is this the case?

As for is it something worth trying: there was a huge debate on this that got a bit out of control. Common sense says no, it's not worth it. Addiction to opioids and ill judgements may dictate otherwise.

CaveBear
13-12-2013, 08:28
its great for a while. incredible actually. however that quickly turns into a fuking nightmare. your life will become all about dope, using, getting more, worrying you wont have enough to stop withdrawals. it fuking sux in the end. What seems like heaven at first soon turns into utter hell. Best advice I can give is dont try it...?

shroomster
13-12-2013, 08:31
It's different for everyone. Personally, even when injected, I'm not too fond of it. I did it frequently because it was around and I needed to sleep... I'd take it over marijuana, but I don't like marijuana, so there ya go. Some people LOVE it, others can't stand it. IMO, heroin is waaaayyyyy overhyped. I, personally, don't find heroin psychologically addicting, but with just a quick glance through this section of bluelight, you will find that this is generally not the case. It is, in most circumstances, extremely addicting, and it is rare that someone veritably tries it once.

So, take that into consideration - I know you want to try it once, but understand that the risk of you using it habitually is very, very high

I know it sounds ridiculous, but a lot of youngens get hooked on heroin on purpose. They want to be junkies and are determined to be one. It's fucking stupid, but trust me, they're out there.

If you are determined to try it, smoke it. You'll be FINE, as you are far less likely to OD smoking it. I'm not encouraging you to try it, but hell, if you're going to - dont shoot it. In fact, don't shoot anything ever. Don't be a dumbass and attempt to convince yourself you liked it, if you did not. If you didn't, fuck it, move on.

Don't continually try it to find that special feeling everyone is talking about.

Blind Melon
13-12-2013, 11:44
If you are determined to try it, smoke it. You'll be FINE, as you are far less likely to OD smoking it. I'm not encouraging you to try it, but hell, if you're going to - dont shoot it. In fact, don't shoot anything ever. Don't be a dumbass and attempt to convince yourself you liked it, if you did not. If you didn't, fuck it, move on.

Don't continually try it to find that special feeling everyone is talking about.
That whole post was quality, but I highlighted what I thought was perfectly said. I'm not sure if it's possible (I really don't think it is, but I put in that "not" so that somebody won't go find some obscure fact and flame me) to OD from smoked heroin. I just don't think you can get it into your body fast enough for you to OD w/o passing out before you even get to the danger zone.

Also, further advice from a hardcore opiate addict: It doesn't matter if it's Heroin or Hydrocodone, they're all addicting. If the drug is an opiate analgesic it will likely be extremely euphoric and highly physically addictive. All opiate analgesics take you to the same place, and I'd much rather get there with some nice, clean, lab-made pill in my belly than a shoot full of dirty street-made and street-cut drugs. So why don't you experiment with Vicodin or Morphine first. If you are Opiate-Na´ve either of those two should get you as high as you'll ever get off Heroin.

CollieMan
13-12-2013, 14:17
It's a very slippery slope and you won't know it's out if control until it's to late. I was one if those people who only snorted it now and then but before I realized how lost I was I had a needle in my arm. 6 weeks out of detox now and relapsed 2 weeks ago but I'm on day 12 or 13 again now. I'd love to say the last year and a half has been fun but I would be lying, it became what I did and who I was. I remember being 17 and it was all fun and games but here I am 6 years later.

ComfortablyNumb95
13-12-2013, 17:54
I'm not willing in any way to try heroin, but just out of curiosity how does it compare to methadone?

I tried it only once and that's the only opiate I've ever taken.
I can't say I didn't like it, but neither it was that big of a deal. actually I was a bit disappointed.
took ~7 mgs and had 0 side effects (not even a hint of nausea, no itch etc) altough it was a good buzz. loved it lasting so long.

so how is heroin like, from what I read it's supposed to be more euphoric and less sedating is that true?
I know it's kinda subjective but I'd like to hear your experinces.

Mr.Scagnattie
13-12-2013, 18:40
I'm going to move this to BDD. One because it is basic indeed, and 2.. because I'm tired of these bloody "Is trying heroin a good idea?" threads.

Of course it isn't a good fucking idea.

OD----BDD

shroomster
13-12-2013, 20:41
I'm going to move this to BDD. One because is is basic indeed, and 2.. because I'm tired of these bloody "Is trying heroin a good idea?" threads.

Of course it isn't a good fucking idea.

OD----BDD

heheh

RTrain
14-12-2013, 00:50
I'm going to move this to BDD. One because it is basic indeed, and 2.. because I'm tired of these bloody "Is trying heroin a good idea?" threads.

Of course it isn't a good fucking idea.

OD----BDD

No kidding. Firstly, common sense...? Secondly, can't this info be attained on the internet without asking on a forum?

I will answer the second question, it most certainly can be.

Ranchlands
19-12-2013, 07:02
straight truth stick with the codeine and dont climb that ladder !

bennyZA
19-12-2013, 08:30
Another one of these threads!

Bman2
19-12-2013, 11:49
As someone that has no tolerance, I strongly recommend trying kratom and NEVER do anything more. But I will warn you, that's easier said than done. In my experiences Kratom in a user that has virtually no tolerance is VERY similar to H. It will tell you what H feels like without the harm of actually taking H or its alternative(oxy). THe second you have a tolerance, Kratom doesn't do a whole lot though. You can buy at a headshop or online.

WeREallSTARSnow
19-12-2013, 15:04
I started on Vicodin and Percocet. Graduated to oxys. Then onto Heroin. The effects are very comparable to oxy contin. I started out snorting then moved onto shooting. Like a previous post mentioned, it was all awesome at first. But in the end, it ruined my life. Everyday is a constant grind to get money and dope. It consumes you. I've done some things I'm not too proud of to obtain money. I would urge you not to try it. If you did, definitely snort it. Don't shoot it. IMO smoking it is a waste.

shimazu
19-12-2013, 15:18
its hard to explain really. for me personally, just the thought that I could forget about more or less anything I wanted to simply by covering one nostril and getting a straw was quite attractive. A lot less work in some ways then other forms of entertainment once you have it in your posession.

That's the problem though, getting it in your posession. Anyone could be a functioning addict if they had an uninterrupted supply of it. But youre either going to pay an arm and a leg getting it from someone you know, or take your chances going to some unsavory places just to save money so you can spend it immidiately on more dope anyway

Its just like, you sniff a line, take a deep breath, make sure your not showin any powder on your nose, and just start to space out happy in the fact that you were able to reach this point as youve probably been looking forward to it fiending for it all day

Hiltoniano
19-12-2013, 19:05
Ok so I sable in tons if opiates, and have tried heroin intranasal and smoking. To me is just a mellow, kinda generic opiate buzz. It does have a subtly to I that adds alpt of euphoria. But personally I like high dose hydrocodone/oxycodone or a lower dose of oxymorphone, or even suboxone. I guess because I don't shoot but it's no more addictive to me than the more potent pharmaceutical opioids out there. Opana (oxymorphone) is soooo much better than heroin to me; but don't take my words too close you may find you love h more than anything else and she will dick you around hard.

RTrain
19-12-2013, 20:25
I think there needs to be a megathread for this type of question.

Bman2
20-12-2013, 02:17
Ok so I sable in tons if opiates, and have tried heroin intranasal and smoking. To me is just a mellow, kinda generic opiate buzz. It does have a subtly to I that adds alpt of euphoria. But personally I like high dose hydrocodone/oxycodone or a lower dose of oxymorphone, or even suboxone. I guess because I don't shoot but it's no more addictive to me than the more potent pharmaceutical opioids out there. Opana (oxymorphone) is soooo much better than heroin to me; but don't take my words too close you may find you love h more than anything else and she will dick you around hard.
Agreed in the sense of the buzz from the roxys > heroin(when i actually had the tolerance to feel roxys). BUT if the heroin is top quality, kinda rare to find at times, then it's almost impossible to beat that. And as an addict, your always hunting for that one special bag but it never seems to show itself. Even when you have a good bag, it's not completely satisfying. Back in the day, roxys were completely satisfying when I could feel them.

TweakFace
20-12-2013, 03:35
What is heroin like? Well at first, it's extremely blissful and amazing but like others said, it turns into a nightmare, very fast. Even if you're just chipping away at dope say once a month, it will still get you one way or another. I've done just about every opiate there is and heroin was the only one that seriously changed me and eventually got addicted to it. I've quit dope before but I always eventually come back to it, I don't know why. It's really not worth it it, ever especially if you've never done it before. It doesn't take long to go from sniffing/snorting heroin to shooting it, trust me. I've seen plenty of people who said they'd never use a needle and are now completely dependent on dope. I wish I had never come back to it.

PlurPsyed
20-12-2013, 04:17
honestly the high varies greatly depending on ROA. sniffed its pretty subtle and not very euphoric. IV is euphoric as fuck but so not worth trying (sorry for the cliche but it's true).

Psychedelic Jay
20-12-2013, 04:26
Technically it is not really much more dangerous than plain jane morphine.

It is a full agonist opiate, and should be treated as such.

Repetitive use will lead to dependence one way or the other, whether this is physical or psychological.

PlurPsyed
20-12-2013, 05:36
Technically it is not really much more dangerous than plain jane morphine.

It is a full agonist opiate, and should be treated as such.

Repetitive use will lead to dependence one way or the other, whether this is physical or psychological. It is more dangerous because morphine is a pharm so you pretty much know how much of it your taking. heroin purity levels greatly vary so the risk of accidental od is greater.

blueaddict43
24-12-2013, 17:14
I think honestly everyone is different. For me when I relapsed, I starting IV'ing oxy 30s (dumb) and it doesnt feel a whole lot different except the "nod". You'll nod out and feel a bit better and more euphoric but its a scary drug man. Be careful.

opiatekrzy
27-12-2013, 05:04
from taking painkillers and snorting and shooting oxys back in 2004, switching to heroin was no surprise. i did it and it felt smoother then oxy, was cheaper, the heroin was just as addictive as painkillers and identical in effects for me

Hope4Dope
30-12-2013, 19:14
When I first tried Heroin recently I got Black Tar that was actually legitimate. And taking in account I have lowish/opiate tolerance I was too cautious and tested smaller quantities. My R.O.A was Plugging, a small portion I shared with a friend was smoked on foil.

Here's my experience/report:

"""
Well I started off with a low amount plugged, waited, not really feeling anything, 10-15 minutes afterwards, go to smoke a little, not really feeling anything. go-to plug some more small amounts, wait a bit start feeling something minute.

I was too cautious with the dope, pussyfooting around. If I get it from the same source I'll know to plug at least a quarter of it or more at once. Realizing I wasn't getting high enough with the spaced out small doses, eventually ended using the last fat chunk in one plug and got a more desired but still (weak) high. I think the Post-Meth stimulation was also overpowering the minute opiate intoxication.

Had I not had meth in my system, I would of used a little MXE to boost the high. (A combination I enjoy with most opiate pills, sooner or later.)

Verdict:
I'll have to buy another $20, some other time achieve a more pronounced dream nod.

Additional Comments:
Sleep on the diminishing high was a pleasure I slept deep and felt cozy, Good thing I prefer side sleeping. Whenever I do opiates and get a considerable buzz, when I do go to sleep I always sleep on my side and don't allow myself to sleep on my back.
"""

DopeIsKing
28-01-2014, 04:09
Heroin is an animal that can get out of control if not kept under control, you can tell yourself to not get addicted but you still must me very careful.. This is coming from experience. I've been in love with dope since the first time it went up my nose. It's similar to other opiates but I find that heroin is by far the most intense and the hardest to keep under control

cwake18
29-01-2014, 17:11
What's it like?

-It's like an opiate. Warm feeling, blissful feeling, relaxation, quite potent compared to morphine depending on quality obtained.

Is it similar to other opiates/opioids?

-Sure, but it is it's own beast, which is why it has a following unlike any other. Different opiates/opioids vary on feel due to being derived from different alkaloids from the opium poppy: morphine, codeine, and thebaine. Where heroin is derived from morphine (it's diacetylmorphine), oxycodone is derived from thebaine. All opiates/opioids are very similar and heroin is no exception to the bunch, it holds its own and isn't particularly overwhelmingly strong (in comparison to others like methadone, oxymorphone, fentanyl, etc.), but it definitely isn't weak either. It's the middle of the road and I'd almost say it's the "happy medium" of sorts when it comes to opiates/opioid comparisons.

Just HOW addictive is heroin anyway?

-It's blanking addictive mate. Read the "should I try heroin" sticky in the OD forum for more. Your first use of heroin doesn't alone have the power to make you instantly physically/mentally addicted, but as many say, it is in-effing-credibly rare to almost non-existent of a chance that someone uses heroin only ONE time, ever. Once the feel has been felt, the brain says pooh! Again! Again! And honestly I was that way just a tad but it doesn't happen overnight.

However, once one is physically dependent and mentally used to the effects, one will constantly recall that FEEL of the rush, the taste, the warmth, the nod, etc. when not on it. This releases a bit of dopamine in the pleasure center and starts the craving for more dopamine release through opioid receptor stimulation. Often times thinking of the feeling was all I needed to get my ass out the door and on my way to the dope man, and this was for the lengthy period of time that I was NOT physically dependent (needing it to function and waking up sick and in withdrawal each day).

It will grab ahold of you and all of your money and assets and drag you away from everyone and everything you love(d) and you won't give a shit until it's too late. Your brain eventually places your heroin dependency/addiction over other needs, causing you to behave under this new change that getting heroin and consuming it is ESSENTIAL for your survival, rather than hydration, eating, working, etc. Just as if you were about to die, you go into "survival mode" and fight will everything inside you to stay alive, this becomes the same mechanism that powers your heroin addiction, and it is an unbelievably powerful force.

So yeah don't do it kthx. :)

Stargazer
06-02-2014, 18:00
I have to echo Mr. Scaggnattie, OF course it's not a good fucking idea to try heroin...Take this from someone that is using H.

Yeah...all fun and games that turns into HELL. Just walk no run away from it. Read some threads about opiate and heroin withdrawal, so you'll see what eventually happens. You want to kill yourself while you're going through w/d. Trying heroin is the worst idea ever.

Altered Perception
07-02-2014, 17:35
Heroin feels very different than other opiates like oxycodone, hydromorphone or codeine. The closest drug that feels like heroin is morphene but even then morphene feels cleaner and more clarity.

I hated heroin, it feels way too sedating, nauseating and incapable of functioning. Everytime i did it i felt like a zombie vegetable. I can only imagine that being shot by a tranquilizer dart would feel similar. Its just blah! I could never inderstand what the attraction is.