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    Hints and tips for meth smokers. 
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    Come one come all, read and learn, or share your own hints/tips/tricks for getting the most out of your smoke.

    Speed/Meth tolerance prevention/reduction [long]
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    Not much to say here, other than... don't load huge bowls. As by loading more you're more likely to not spread it around enough and end up with a fat puddle boiling and burning up your drugs. Load a moderately small bowl, spread it around good, and smoke that shit son. If you get to the end of the bowl and don't think you're high enough, load another one.

    Cutting

    Anyways, first things first. "Cutting," or at least that's what I've always heard it refered to, and learned it that way. The act of melting down and allowing your meth to recrystalize all over in the bowl of the pipe. (While it is recrystalizing, roll that puddle around and spread it out. Do this inbetween hits also.) Supposedly ment to burn off cuts and impurities, however this is bullshit. Most cuts and practically all impurities melt right down and recrystalize in with the meth. Burning off while you smoke, and going into your lungs. Don't worry, this stuff is good for you. It'll grow some hair on your chest. Although "cutting" doesn't burn off any impurities or cuts, it does allow you to make the bowl last longer. By spreading it around while it recrystalizes, you will in turn not heat it all at once and have more control over it. You're less likely to burn up and destroy a bunch of meth smoking a thin puddle. Whereas trying to smoke a fat puddle will waste meth. Longer lasting bowls equal more smoke and more high.

    There is one exception to this that I've found so far, which is... MSM. If you know what you're doing, you CAN burn off most of it and be left with cleaner dope to smoke. You know sometimes when you take that first hit, and exhale barely any smoke? That was mostly MSM. Sadly though I have no clue how to explain the process through which you burn it off. But don't loose hope now, because you CAN burn it off.

    Lighters

    Don't use one of those fancy shmancy torch lighters unless you know what you're doing. They burn too hot, and will destroy your drugs if you're not careful. This is not good, you want to just vaporize them and suck them into your lungs. Not burn them up into nothing. A regular Bic lighter works best, with Crickets coming in second. But be forwarned, lighters get really fucking hot when you keep them lit for those long hits so common with meth. They will burn you and hurt you, possibly making you jerk or twitch... only to end up throwing a frail glass pipe accross the room. Be careful with lighters kids.

    Needle Lighters
    The point of the needle lighters is to force the gas(which has been turned way down) through the smaller hole of the needle, and lighting it up on top. Makes for a tinny tiny not so hot flame which is good for smokin' dope. And having the needle somewhat long prevents the crappy plastic lighter(which most adjustable ones are) from melting itself and dying.

    Heating and smoking

    The flame of your lighter should never be touching the glass. If it's close, it's probably too close. Getting too close means you're heating it too much, this destroys drugs. Not good. And it blackens up the pipe, which is a pain in the ass to clean and hard to see through.

    Don't apply constant heat, as this will also get it too hot and destroy drugs. Again, not a good thing. Heat it until it's smoking good and pull flame away. When the smoke starts thinning, reapply flame until it's smoking good again.

    Roll it side to side slightly while heating to help prevent overheating one spot and destroying product. You just want a nice smoking puddle, not a boiling one.

    When coming to the end of your hit, after you've stopped heating it and the smoke is again starting to thin. But you don't have that much breath left to warrent reheating and getting it smoking good again. Carb it, or put your finger over the carb(hole on top of the bowl) to stop the airflow and allow more vapor to condense inside. Then once a little has condensed, release the carb and continue with the inhale. Not too fast, not too slow though. A slow tapping kind of action works best. Carb for a second, uncarb and inhale, carb for a second, uncarb and inhale, etc...

    Before smoking the stem, remelt that shit down and let it recrystalize. Or if you have enough residue, melt it down and let it drip down into the bowl to recrystalize. While melting, plug the end of the stem with your finger to prevent vapor from escaping.

    Hold the pipe with the end of the tube BEHIND your teeth. Although not the sole cause of tooth decay/loss, it sure as hell doesn't help anything to be sucking those water hungry meth vapors past your chompers. Holding the pipe on your lips will most likely result in some cute little dried out dead spots, which will also show up on your tongue if you get that in the way. So don't use your tongue as a valve to restrict airflow by plugging part of the tube. Yes it does slow down the hit, and allow for a bigger hit. But it fucks your tongue up pretty bad for a day or two.

    Nice slow inhalation with micropuffing action seems to work best. Don't pause and hold your hit whiling searching for another spot to smoke because you have a little breath left. Don't hold your hit period. By the time you're done taking those long ass hits, most of what you're going to get out of the smoke has already been absorbed. Holding it longer may get you a little more out of it, but it's doing way more damage to your lungs in the process.

    Getting the most out of it

    If you're worried about wasting smoke, share it with a boyfriend/girlfriend via mouth to mouth action. It doesn't have to take forever like a hit off the pipe. Quick and smooth works fine. Or, if you have no one to share with you could exhale into a ballon. And take a few more hits off it, inhaling and exhaling into the ballon. With breaths of fresh air inbetween hits of course.

    Then if you're a real stickler, you can save that balloon. Since it has all them little water droplets from your breath that have absorbed a little vapor. Or if you have nice dry breath, the balloon may have a coating of residue. Just like the stem of your pipe. Get that stuff wet, and put it in with your Kool Aid/Juice/Water, or just lick it if you'd like. Or I suppose you could try to scrape it and load another bowl...

    Cleaning the pipe

    So you've not been listening to me and burnt up some of your drugs smoking, and in the process blackened the fuck out of the bottom of your pipe. Good job dumby. Now you have a few options, you can either just not care and wipe it off your your shirt or pants. Or, you can have a semi-damp rag handy. Preferably warm or room temperature water. If you use cold water you run the risk of busting the pipe. Or you can learn how to smoke correctly and never deal with soot again.

    Now for cleaning that brown/black residue left inside after you've gone through a sizable amount of meth. Again you have a few options.
    You can either;

    a) Throw your pipe away and make a new one.
    Now if you know how to blow your own pipes option a is pretty damn easy, just blow a new one and sell the old one to another tweaker for $5.

    b) Bust out the propane torch and burn it out.
    If you have a propane torch, no acetone, and no knowledge on blowing pipes then option b is your best bet. But be forwarned, don't heat your pipe too much because it will get soft and start to deform if you heat it too long. And don't do this outside on a cool night, hot glass needs to be cooled slowly. Exposing it to the cold night air while it's glowing hot will break it. Inside, preferably warm room.

    c) Use a solvent like acetone and let it soak for a while, then rinse.
    Just fill the bowl with a little acetone, let it soak for a while, empty and rinse. Repeat if neccessary. Do in a well ventilated area, not in the closet with the doors shut

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    Originally posted by crystalcallas
    TWEEKTIP: Dont you guys just hate sore meth tongue *groans* you know that feeling, after hittin the straight pipe just once, and a coupla of hours later your tongue feels like it was trampled over by a flamenco dancer in steel boots. Solution : gargle with a glass of warm water mixed with about five tablespoons of rock salt (or plain iodized table salt) after every couple of hits. Make sure the tongue gets swished properly. Just do it. Youll thank me after you never have sore tongue again, :9
    Originally posted by Gauss
    A few things..

    1) Hydrochloric/muriatic acid also works wonders to clean a pipe. Just put a few drops in and mop up with a Q-tip or burn it off with a torch. It's never failed to get a pipe 100% clean and brand new looking.

    2) Use a Pyrex pipe. Glass pipes are very sensitive to heat. Constant or high heat can deform them and cause the glass (especially around the hole where you load the bowl) to become very thin and brittle. Pyrex can withstand extremely high heat -- I've never seen one get deformed one bit. The only problem is most speed bongs need custom pipes.. which means glass.

    3) If you can get or make a speed bong.. use it. The hits will be huge, will not be harsh, and so forth. Fill it with Fire water, water and some Altoids, or something else to give it flavor Then when you're done, drink the damn water, its full of speed.

    4) Normally putting your finger over the mouth end of the pipe can also stop the speed from escaping if you're out of breath. This stops the airflow so the speed just swirls around in the bowl. I've never burnt myself putting my finger over the carb hole though.

    5) You -CAN- load too big of a bowl. There is no need to load huge bowls.. it will just become more difficult to melt it all down and you are more likely to overheat it and burn it.

    6) The reason speed lasts longer if you melt it down and spread it around the bowl is this (I think, correct me if I am wrong): if you have a thick puddle of speed in one place on the pipe and heat it from the bottom, the bottom of the puddle is getting MUCH hotter than the top, but cannot smoke as easily because there is a big layer of liquid on top of it. Thus the bottom layer begins to boil and burn, wasting the drug and making a mess of your pipe. Spreading it thin ensures this does not happen.

    Peace.
    Originally posted by evandar
    I just have one thing to contribute - no ones posted anything about using a jet lighter properly

    Jet Flames:
    A jet flame is better to use than a normal bic lighter - if you can use it properly you can get much more out of your meth.. The main way to do it is pack the pipe in the middle of the bowl, heat the outside of the bowl (around the meth) so the glass around the meth is hot.. then spiral your way inwards and touch the flame to the meth.. the meth should turn into a puddle - take the flame away. Just roll the pipe around so the meth-puddle rolls over the pre-heated glass - smoking slowly.


    If done properly you can get huge amounts of smoke out of our meth.
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    well all I need now is some meth and the desire to do it. Thanks for the tips haze
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Funkenstien
    well all I need now is some meth and the desire to do it. Thanks for the tips haze
    Exactly what came to my mind.
     

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    where can i get a pyrex pipe?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Funkenstien View Post
    well all I need now is some meth and the desire to do it. Thanks for the tips haze
    good posting
     

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    well all I need now is some meth and the desire to do it
    LOL

    Good post though, assuming it's all true. I wouldn't know, don't like meth and don't know shit about it.
     

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    Assuming it's all true?! How dare you doubt the word of the mighty Red Haze, knower of all and sugar daddy with the ladies...
     

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    The 13 year old ladies? heh. just kiddin..
     

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    Sometimes... But I'm a fan with all ages...
     

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    i think this is commonly known as "chasing the dragon"...
    at least thats what ive heard it called, like smoking opium, same routine.. but very good read, i laft a few times..
    My group of friends when we were doing this did it just about exactly like Red did/does..
    i havent touched it in a month im glad yay...

    but in response to lighters, and being careful,
    we kept about 6 or 7 laying on the coffee table for this very reason, never has one lighter lasted long, or if only one was around, more then one person got burnt...
    funny stuff..
     

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    hello folks 
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    if i just wasnt so goddamned lazy and scattered, i woulda been smart enough to beat whoever and put up this thread but *sigh* i was as usual, procrastinating.

    A tip for the lighters: If you dont have those handy blue flame torchy lighters, i suggest you learn how to make them NEEDLE lighters. Its an adjustable lighter (not the electric one) with the notch . With a blue flame you will have lesser chances of : a. burning your poor pipebottom to a soot {notgoood} plus the glass gets thinner the more you burn it. b.Wanna avoid the burned shit that tastes like charcoal.eek. Blue flames and the "burn a bit, pull away, burn a bit, pull away, suck ahhh" method as described earlier will guarantee you a pretty good hit, and the most value for your meth.
    Also, you can keep a small piece of cotton doused in a bit of water, to rub your pipe bottom on after inhaling the smoke. Do you hear the "ssssst" sound? Good, thats your pipe thanking you for giving it some relief from all that heat. If no cotton available, try rubbing the bottom on a piece of cloth like your denims to help cool it down. (please, not on your legs)
    happy safe tweeking tweex
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariacallas View Post
    If no cotton available, try rubbing the bottom on a piece of cloth like your denims to help cool it down. (please, not on your legs)
    happy safe tweeking tweex
    Actually rubbing glass thats too hot on denim (an ink soaked material) can cause the ink to burn to the bottom of your pipe. very hard to get off and ugly looking. the same with polyester or plastic based fabrics. the plastic will melt and stick to the outside of the pipe.

    To be safe use a white cotton fabric square or old t-shirt .
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    I would like to add that you should pack a decent size bowl (not too little but not too much). A bowl should have 5-8 hits. Do not pack "One Hit' Bowls. It is a waste and you probably will fuck it up and not get any Hit off of it (if you are inexperienced), your better off parachuting that Hit instead of trying to smoke it.

    A decent size starter bowl is 50mg-75mg (for low-tolerance users) or 100mg (Point) if your shit is the worst cut ever. You shouldn't need to smoke any more then that though unless you're a tweaker. (DO NOT put more then a Point into the bowl at once, waste of meth. Smoke that bowl then pack it again if you must).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine.amber View Post
    Actually rubbing glass thats too hot on denim (an ink soaked material) can cause the ink to burn to the bottom of your pipe. very hard to get off and ugly looking. the same with polyester or plastic based fabrics. the plastic will melt and stick to the outside of the pipe.

    To be safe use a white cotton fabric square or old t-shirt .
    I would just get a washcloth and cool water. However I prefer to IV methamphetamine so I wouldn't smoke it really even if I came across it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain.Heroin View Post
    I would just get a washcloth and cool water. However I prefer to IV methamphetamine so I wouldn't smoke it really even if I came across it.
    Is there anything you wouldn't rather IV c.h?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I NUK3D U View Post
    Is there anything you wouldn't rather IV c.h?
    dextro-amphetamine is best taken orally.

    I probably won't ever IV ketamine again, as IM administration yielded exactly what I wanted.

    I won't be IVing 2C's, nor IMing them either, as I would prefer not to even use them again orally or otherwise. I did write a trip report about IM 2C-E.

    When I was addicted to heroin I normally preferred nasal use to IV. The duration was very long for snorted powder heroin, and it seemed to be smoother than the quick ups and downs of IV heroin.
     

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    Warm or room temperature water is preferable on that piece of cotton.
    Cold water + Hot glass = Broken pipe.

    Or instead of rubbing it on things, just give it a rest for a few minutes. Rapidly heating and cooling repeatedly will weaken the glass, and eventually cause it to break.
     

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    Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-
    Come one come all, read and learn, or share your own hints/tips/tricks for getting the most out of your smoke.
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    Anyways, first things first. "Cutting," or at least that's what I've always heard it refered to, and learned it that way. The act of melting down and allowing your meth to recrystalize all over in the bowl of the pipe. (While it is recrystalizing, roll that puddle around and spread it out. Do this inbetween hits also.) Supposedly ment to burn off cuts and impurities, however this is bullshit. Most cuts and practically all impurities melt right down and recrystalize in with the meth. Burning off while you smoke, and going into your lungs. Don't worry, this stuff is good for you. It'll grow some hair on your chest. Although "cutting" doesn't burn off any impurities or cuts, it does seem to make the bowl last longer. I'm not exactly sure how or why, but I try not to question a good thing. Longer lasting bowls equal more smoke and more high.

    Don't use one of those fancy shmancy torch lighters. They burn too hot, and will destroy your drugs. This is not good, you want to just vaporize them and suck them into your lungs. Not burn them up into nothing. A regular Bic lighter works best, with Crickets coming in second. But be forwarned, lighters get really fucking hot when you keep them lit for those long hits so common with meth. They will burn you and hurt you, possibly making you jerk or twitch... only to end up throwing a frail glass pipe accross the room. Be careful with lighters.

    The flame of your lighter should never be touching the glass. If it's close, it's probably too close. Getting too close means you're heating it too much, this destroys drugs. Not good. And it blackens up the pipe, which is a pain in the ass to clean and hard to see through.

    Don't apply constant heat, as this will also get it too hot and destroy drugs. Again, not a good thing. Heat it until it's smoking good and pull flame away. When the smoke starts thinning, reapply flame until it's smoking good again.

    Roll it side to side slightly while heating to help prevent overheating one spot and destroying product. You just want a nice smoking puddle, not a boiling one.

    When coming to the end of your hit, after you've stopped heating it and the smoke is again starting to thin. But you don't have that much breath left to warrent reheating and getting it smoking good again. Carb it, or put your finger over the carb(hole on top of the bowl) to stop the airflow and allow more vapor to condense inside. Then once a little has condensed, release the carb and continue with the inhale. Not too fast, not too slow though. A slow tapping kind of action works best. Carb for a second, uncarb and inhale, carb for a second, uncarb and inhale, etc...

    Before smoking the stem, remelt that shit down and let it recrystalize. Or if you have enough residue, melt it down and let it drip down into the bowl to recrystalize. While melting, plug the end of the stem with your finger to prevent vapor from escaping.

    Hold the pipe with the end of the tube BEHIND your teeth. Although not the sole cause of tooth decay/loss, it sure as hell doesn't help anything to be sucking those water hungry meth vapors past your chompers. Holding the pipe on your lips will most likely result in some cute little dried out dead spots, which will also show up on your tongue if you get that in the way. So don't use your tongue as a valve to restrict airflow by plugging part of the tube. Yes it does slow down the hit, and allow for a bigger hit. But it fucks your tongue up pretty bad for a day or two.

    Nice slow inhalation with micropuffing action seems to work best. Don't pause and hold your hit whiling searching for another spot to smoke because you have a little breath left. Don't hold your hit period. By the time you're done taking those long ass hits, most of what you're going to get out of the smoke has already been absorbed. Holding it longer may get you a little more out of it, but it's doing way more damage to your lungs in the process.

    If you're worried about wasting smoke, share it with a boyfriend/girlfriend via mouth to mouth action. It doesn't have to take forever like a hit off the pipe. Quick and smooth works fine. Or, if you have no one to share with you could exhale into a ballon. And take a few more hits off it, inhaling and exhaling into the ballon. With breaths of fresh air inbetween hits of course.

    Then if you're a real stickler, you can save that balloon. Since it has all them little water droplets from your breath that have absorbed a little vapor. Or if you have nice dry breath, the balloon may have a coating of residue. Just like the stem of your pipe. Get that stuff wet, and put it in with your Kool Aid/Juice/Water, or just lick it if you'd like. Or I suppose you could try to scrape it and load another bowl...
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    I don't think it could have been written better and, you weren't tweekin were you -=ReD-hAzE=-? If I ever freebase or am in the presence of it all this information will be quite helpful. thanks again
     

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    Originally posted by Fujicrow
    stop fucking tweaking
    I haven't touched meth for months. Stop being a fucking prick and try posting something useful.
     

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    Whoah im pretty ucked up ATM but this is a good thread. Meth smoked is a bit like crack, only started tweaking recently but it compares
     

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    Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-


    Lighters

    Don't use one of those fancy shmancy torch lighters. They burn too hot, and will destroy your drugs. This is not good, you want to just vaporize them and suck them into your lungs. Not burn them up into nothing. A regular Bic lighter works best, with Crickets coming in second. But be forwarned, lighters get really fucking hot when you keep them lit for those long hits so common with meth. They will burn you and hurt you, possibly making you jerk or twitch... only to end up throwing a frail glass pipe accross the room. Be careful with lighters.


    I use a candle!
     

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    or in 6 words.. put meth in pipe and vapourise

    drug basics?
     

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    Fuck off reciever 
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    Quote Originally Posted by receiver
    or in 6 words.. put meth in pipe and vapourise

    drug basics?
    Ok you go try smoking meth all by your lonsome without remembering anything off this post and see how hard it really is. thanks red haze for the post this should help alot if i start smoking meth again
     

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    Throw it in the pizz and smoke it ?? Geeez 
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    or in 6 words.. put meth in pipe and vaporise

    drug basics?




    Originally Posted by heroin
    OK you go try smoking meth all by your lonesome without remembering anything off this post and see how hard it really is. thanks red haze for the post this should help allot if i start smoking meth again




    Let me help Heroin explain to the Twirp some simple Smoking Basics........


    OK, Look, SWIM is relatively new to Meth and even I knew better than to just throw it in A pipe and smoke it. SWIM is fortunate enough to have someone that she could trust to go to, to ask about using meth.

    SWIM tried doing a line for the first time... (didn't like the Burn) so SWIM asked Her friend how it is smoked ...it was sweet....SWIM was served the first few times bc she was still shy.

    Now, SWIM was passed down to her a pizz. She was instructed how to Clean, Load, and Heat and inhale. As Far as any other way besides the snort or the smoke SWIM hasn't done any other method ( and will remain that way )

    Loading~~~SWIM has a small make~up pouch for her pizz, lighter, a few Qtips and two decent business cards. ( if you have to straws that is good to, but swim never has any around) any way, sprinkle a a portion of your Mieth from your baggie on to the business card, make sure you bend it in half. then gently place over the opening of the stem and lightly tap the stem and it will drop right in. make sure the carb hole opening is facing upward. ( you don't want to dump your prize. try not to load to big of a bowl or or not enough ....to much can burn your prize. and to little ....well then your just not smoking .... i say "load that bitch" but then again swim had a teacher.


    Heating~~~swim uses a bic lighter, its what she has handy most of the time. apply the flame close to the bottom of the pipe, but not directly on it, or it will burn the glass and ruin the porosity of the glass, which makes a shitty pipe to smoke from and not to mention it burns the Product. Cant smoke burnt up Product now can we?

    so now you have the lighter lit and under the bottom of the glass, but not direct heat remember ...if the pipe is placed in your hand right ( thumb at the beginning of the stem, thumb on bottom, index finger and middle finger on top. swim has middle finger next to index just slightly back, for the roll. OK so now that you are heating the product while steadily rolling the pipe back and forth.....once it has vaporized ( you will see smoke fill up in the bulb ) starting inhaling slowly and steadily, once your product is a nice liquid puddle, remove heat and continue to inhale while you are still rolling it ( spreading it around like this causes the product not to get burned in one spot ...aka ~~ ruining the prize. when you are done with your inhale release the smoke, there is no need to hold it in. since this is the first hit, keep rocking it back and forth and let it cool (recrystallize) now your ready to hit it again...when swim is alone she lets her product cool between hits so the product and pipe do not overheat and spoil the prize.

    now if swim reloads a bowl, she swabs the bottom of the pipe with a Qtip and starts all over again. if swim is not going to load another bowl and is finished for a while she will melt down the stem

    Stem~~~swim plugs the stem hole ( something non flammable ) and melts the frosting in the stem down into the bottom of the bulb and Vwala smoke your left overs.

    Cleaning the pipe~~~ swim will use water and soap in a glass container in the micro wave for 3-4 min. remove it using a cloth so you don't burn your self on the hot glass. swim takes it and rinses it out. takes a paper towel and dries it and uses Qtips to take out the moisture from the inside. and wraps it back up and puts her pizz in her little carrying pouch wrapped in a soft satin napkin ( swim doesn't like her pizz all scratched up.


    Additional Tips Swim can think of~~~ don't turn your pipe upside down .. don't let the flame get inside the pipe ( meth is highly flammable ) and don't Double Hit if your with a group ...its RUDE.

    OK guys if i left anything out help a lady out and help me fill in anything i might have forgot

    Angel
    Last edited by dreemangel; 17-01-2007 at 07:19. Reason: mis- spelling
     

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