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    ^ It's more due to Hitler's tweaked thought patterns, and the fact that no-one would dare to question his descisions
     

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    You're so damn ignorant...

    http://free.freespeech.org/americans...Genocide2.html

    "This Iraqi manís name is Razaq Al Kazem Al Khafaji. On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, an American helicopter pilot mass-murdered his entire family. Fifteen people. His six children, his wife, his mother, father, three brothers and their wives. They were all murdered in cold blood by an amphetamine-popping, U.S. Army punk flying an Apache attack helicopter."

    http://guns.connect.fi/gow/war.html

    "The incident above pictured by TV news channels like N24 was told to be a British tank hit by American anti-armory fire. U.S. fire was reported to have caused more British casualties than Iraqis did during the offensive. "Friendly fire" incidents were aroused a topic again a year later as the media revealed that U.S. pilots were ordered Dexedrine amphetamine pills for combat flights. About 60 % of all pilots and 97 % of front line combat pilots in Iraq were told to have used "speed pills" supplied by their superiors.

    The use of amphetamine for combat air crews by the U.S. is actually not new. During Second World War, strategic bomber crews flying deep into German territory were given amphetamine to stay awake and attentive. One curiosity related to drugging flight crews was that when they reported a "bat-winged propellerless plane flying circles around them", the intelligence people merely nodded sympathetically to the hallucinations of amphetamine doped troops. Later, these were confirmed as first spots of the new German Me-163 rocket fighter. On the other side, also Germans experimented with their Pervitin 'attack pulver'.

    So it was not really a surprise to learn that U.S. Army and Air Force have tried amphetamine to boost troops - it was a surprise that they are still using it, and that it is so common!"
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    I hate the US army and there controlling fucking ways. I can't believe yanks get push around and controlled like sheep. CIA = the real american goverment and also the biggest drug dealer in the USA
     

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    How can anyone say the nazis had no good ideas? What they did is know more wrong than what every other country has been doing to each other since the begining of time. Its pretty hard to argue againest human nature, especially if you live in the US, a country that has killed more people in the 1900's than the Nazi's, as well as over 20 million Native Americans. If you feel so strongly about murderers you should probally move to Alaska, cause almost every spot on the globe has someone else's blood on it. Shit look at the jews that survived WW2, they stole someone else's country and are now killing them. Aside from that, the Nazis did a lot of useful research as well as fathering a lot of really fun drugs. I don't like the Nazis, but I am consistent and I don't like people either. In fact, I hope WW3 happens tommorow and the human race is whipped out. Also, why does Hitler get a worse wrap that Stalin, who killed more people? Guess the winning team usually doesn't get a hard time, afterall the fires of Tokyo and the 2 nukes were justified, right?
     

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    ^ Because the Nazis were the only ones to bring mass-production methods to the murder of entire races of people (given the chance). Yes people starved to death when Stalin introduced collectivisation of the farming methods in the USSR, but the aim was to make farming more efficient, not to exterminate an entire people because of their genes/culture. Even cases where a policy of genocide appears to be the motive (such as that of the US government and Native Americans), they didn't go about setting up specific extermination camps - Native Americans who agreed to follow the rules laid down by the US government (no matter how shitty the conditions were) were not systematically subjected to an extermination program.

    With the Nazis, it didn't matter if you abided by their rules or not, if you were Jewish, their only aim was to remove all traces of you. To this end, they built camps (the most infamous being Auchwitz-Buchenwalt) that were specifically designed purely for the purpose of carrying out murder on an industrial scale. Nobody else has ever tried to do anything like that - it is beyond belief that any 'civilized' nation would undertake such a policy...
     

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    Originally posted by fastandbulbous
    ^ Because the Nazis were the only ones to bring mass-production methods to the murder of entire races of people (given the chance). . .

    With the Nazis, it didn't matter if you abided by their rules or not, if you were Jewish, their only aim was to remove all traces of you. To this end, they built camps (the most infamous being Auchwitz-Buchenwalt) that were specifically designed purely for the purpose of carrying out murder on an industrial scale. Nobody else has ever tried to do anything like that - it is beyond belief that any 'civilized' nation would undertake such a policy...
    I don't deny that many people suffered and died in the camps but there was not any deliberate extermination policy: the Jews were being sent to work camps or were being extirpated out of german territory.

    Millions of people were NOT exterminated with louse disinfestant and diesel exhaust, and a body cremated in 20 minutes with 3.5kg of coke. Logistically it's not practical or possible. The Nazis had many better, safer, practical, cleaner methods to exterminate people. They could have gassed 'em all in a tunnel with the coal-fired locomotive and ditched them into a pit with a conveyer belt.

    The gas chambers were wartime/communist atrocity propaganda.

    For more information see: www.nizkor.org

    [edit - stupid holocaust denier website changed to one with those funny things known as 'facts']
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    you just don't fucking learn, do you? i hope banning you again gets me another place of honor on your kook website.
     

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    you just don't fucking learn, do you? i hope banning you again gets me another place of honor on your kook website.
    Do you honestly want a place on a site by somebody with their head so far up their arse?

    My wife doesn't have any distant relatives because of the Nazis totally fucked up 'racial purity' policies (yes, she's Jewish). I get exacerbated by holocaust deniers - don't know whether to feel angry about then, or pity them, as they have no grounding in reality. I had a great uncle who was part of the British Army that liberated Belsen-Bergen, but as a kid I was told never to ask him about the war as that once incident caused him nightmares for the rest of his life. While my dad was in the British Army on the Rhine, he visited the place and said that it was the most unsettling place he's ever been.

    So who do you think I'm going to believe, mine, and my wife's, immediate family, or somebody who obviously can't see the truth when it's staring them straight in the face?
     

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    Originally posted by michael
    you just don't fucking learn, do you? i hope banning you again gets me another place of honor on your kook website
    banned for having opposing beliefs? (doesnt matter if htey are right or wrong, stupid, ignorant, people are still entitled to have their own..)
     

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    If someone believed that it was safe to combine say ayahuasca (contains an MAOI) and meth, and went about preaching it like it was gospel, they'd get the same sort of treatment. Belief is for theories or religion; the Holocaust is a matter of fact, and people that write it off as propaganda are deeply offensive to a lot of people (esp ones who have relatives who were victims of it)
     

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    Originally posted by qwe
    banned for having opposing beliefs? (doesnt matter if htey are right or wrong, stupid, ignorant, people are still entitled to have their own..)
    I couldn't agree anymore. Maybe the person in question is a bit off their rocker for not believing in the holocaust, but I don't feel it's right AT ALL to ban them for such a belief.
     

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    Originally posted by fastandbulbous
    Do you honestly want a place on a site by somebody with their head so far up their arse?
    yes, i get some sort of sick pleasure from it.

    Originally posted by qwe
    banned for having opposing beliefs? (doesnt matter if htey are right or wrong, stupid, ignorant, people are still entitled to have their own..)
    no, she was banned (again, i might add) for conntinuing to derail nearly every topic she replied to into the same, tired discussion, along with spamming her website at every opportunity.

    Originally posted by HobbyIsBowling
    I couldn't agree anymore. Maybe the person in question is a bit off their rocker for not believing in the holocaust, but I don't feel it's right AT ALL to ban them for such a belief.
    well, that isn't why she was banned.
     

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    Originally posted by michael
    well, that isn't why she was banned.
    I assumed that was why she was banned because you made the "hopefully this ban'll teach ya" post in this thread shortly after she made those remarks. If that's not why she was banned, then nevermind.
     

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    Stalin had more people killed than Hitler, more people starved to death and there was cannablism during that time, but never the less Stalin had more innocent people killed than Hitler. Who the fuck cares if you don't target a specific race, killing is wrong, killing large groups of people is wrong, killing 1 person cause they are a jew and killing 3 people cause they disagree with you are the same thing, except its worse to kill 3 people than just 1. I will admit killing random people is a lot funnier than killing people cause of their opinions, cause one is a sport and the other is hatred. Thats why Charles Manson has a cult following and Hitler has a cult following his words, though neither one of them has actually killed anyone directly that I know of.
    Though it doesn't directly have anything to do with it, to all those that say the bombing of the innocent was justified in Japan, would the Iraqi's be justified dropping a nuke onto Newark to get the US to leave them the fuck alone, seems to be the same premise, just different location, different time.
     

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    Originally posted by HobbyIsBowling
    I assumed that was why she was banned because you made the "hopefully this ban'll teach ya" post in this thread shortly after she made those remarks. If that's not why she was banned, then nevermind.
    same. sry micheal
     

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    Originally posted by HobbyIsBowling
    I couldn't agree anymore. Maybe the person in question is a bit off their rocker for not believing in the holocaust, but I don't feel it's right AT ALL to ban them for such a belief.
    I think the ban had to do more with poster's history of posts, and specifically here this was not just his view, it was spreading hatred and racism which IS against BLUA.

    Back on topic, I watched an interesting documentary on discovery channel yesterday and they claimed that Hitler's personal physycian had him injected with METH daily (in official papers listed as MultiVitamin cockatail, but really who gets an INJECTION of vitamins ?).

    They had supposed eye witness, hitler's driver who claimed that after his daily morning appointment he appeared energetic,
    vigorous and talkative and ready to tackle his next day.

    Moreover, one of the Nazi medical staff attempted to replicate the "recipe" for Hitler's "vitamin" injections which apparently led to the whole lab being ordered destroyed by Hitler's 2nd in command.

    If you watch Hitler's speeches and how he behaved in public he always appeared either a) psychotic or b) tweaked-out or c) both so the documentary sure made some sense. This would also explain some of his brash and reckless military decisions which paid off in the short run but failed miserably in the long term.

    Finally they claimed that Hitler was suffering from Parkinsons (documented in one of the films with is involuntary shaking of left hand) and that was partially what caused his poor military decisions and slow reaction to what was happening on the front lines.

    I am not saying that it should be regarded as fact but it certainly had some grounds for credibility. Nevertheless very interesting theory, and would also explain Hitler's sympathetic relationship with amphetamines as far as giving them to his soldiers.


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    Maybe the person in question is a bit off their rocker for not believing in the holocaust, but I don't feel it's right AT ALL to ban them for such a belief.
    the holocaust is not a matter of "belief"

    Who the fuck cares if you don't target a specific race
    i guess to some people the idea behind an action actually matters because it tells you a lot about the true motivations and dynamics of the acting party, and (in the case of the nazis) what it could have been capable of had it not been stopped at great cost;

    anyway, nobody is saying stalin was a great guy, so what is your point?

    killing 1 person cause they are a jew and killing 3 people cause they disagree with you are the same thing
    no it's not, because in the latter case those disagreeing may have the option of shutting up and not revealing themselves in the first place; although, admittedly, stalin's minions did shot and purged people rather randomly;
     

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    Originally posted by johnmortons
    the holocaust is not a matter of "belief"
    Sure it is. Some people still believe the world is flat. Some people don't believe in any type of science. Some people believe they are in a "matrix" (like the movie) and reality is not 'real'. People believe all sorts of things.

    I also believe the holocaust existed, as do most reasonable people, so why are you nitpicking something I wrote that was intended to defend freedom of speech on this site?
     

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    so why are you nitpicking something I wrote that was intended to defend freedom of speech on this site?
    i retract;

    i guess my response came from an impulse, i'm perhaps not 100% sure if 100% freedom of speech is really desirable; but as i said, not sure myself;

    she did talk an awful lot of bullshit, whatever she got banned for, i'm not going to miss her contributions
     

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    wonder if all those UFO stories from US pilots was a direct result of amphetmaine psychosis. Interesting snippet/thread...apart from the completely off topic flaming orgy.
     

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