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    Heroin, Missed Shots, & Heat 
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    i know that when you miss a shot of heroin, you are supposed to apply heat to it in order to avoid any abcesses or etc.

    but does one still apply heat to the injection site (or around it) to help out the missed shot, after 12-24 hours of missing? would it make any difference in healing it?
     

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    NO! I thought apply heat also, but apply cold like an ice pack. Much better results. After three days all heat was doing was making it spread, cold did alot better job at relieving and shrinking the inflamataion. Put an ice pack on that shit.
     

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    an ice pack? i have always used heat in the past as i heard it makes the heroin absorb into the muscle maybe? i'm not sure. but i have read many times on this board to apply heat. i guess i will give the cold a shot.

    but if heat does work, is it any effeicient at applying heat 12-14 hours after?
     

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    yes run it under some hot water or put a heat compress on it...this will help dissolve it and get it dispersed into your bloodstream. I did this iwht a partialy missed shot (dilaudid) and it worked great!

    I think if its sticking around awhile alternating heat and cold could be really efficient (reduce the inflammation with cold then heat it to disperse the drug).
     

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    so both will work? and it will be effective even after 12-24 hours?
     

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    Heat. effective any time. The sooner the better, of course. I sometimes even do it when I don't miss to make sure it doesn't leave a mark.
    But first, try not to miss shots (practice technique) so you never need to do that.
     

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    you use heat for missed shots. You should put heat on it for as long as it takes to go away. If it doesnt go away, then...

    do NOT use heat for abscesses. If it turns into an abscess, go to the ER and get it drained.
     

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    do youguys massage the injection spot/shake your arm after injecting?

    Also I find breathing in very deeply in and out perhaps like 6 times after injecting makes the rush a lot better (it also makes the DMT peak after smoking more intense). I think its because it temporarily increases circulation and gets all the drug to your brain even quicker. Its all about peak plasma levels, why IV is such a good route for opiates.
    Last edited by Gaian Planes; 15-06-2008 at 00:16.
     

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    Leave it alone for a while. See if you get an effect from the previous shot/s. Give it a half an hour+

    does that make any sense
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixpartseven

    do NOT use heat for abscesses.
    Heat was making it spread up my leg, cold shrunk it down to a small area.............antibootics are good too, but you have to do a full course.
     

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    did you know you had an infection before using antibiotics or did you just suspect?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles
    did you know you had an infection before using antibiotics or did you just suspect?
    I wasnt sure, but it was getting worse so it couldnt hurt. I did a whole 10day regiment though.
     

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    Never use an antibiotic without it being prescribed by a doctor. Not all antibiotics work the same way, and as you said, you need to use a full course which can vary from 5 - 30 days.

    Suggesting otherwise is dangerous and irresponsible.
     

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    definately apply heay like everyones saying.

    i distinctly remember running my arm under hot water after missing a partial meth shot and got a rush from it absorbing. it very well may have been placebo but all swelling and redness disappeared
     

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    Everybody here is saying heat, and that is good for a missed shot. But, when its gone beyond a missed shot and its spreding, cold is what shrinks the inflamation..............but yes when in doubt go to the Dr.
     

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    ^ I dont think anyones really said any different. I may be wrong, but it looks like we are all in agreement that once its gone beyond a missed shot, that cold is the way to go.
     

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    this thread should be in the best of bluelight. everyones agreed on something without any shit fight
     

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    I know, its amazing. Im jumping between this thread and another at the moment, and its like 2 totally different planets. One is like a train wreck and this one is like a peaceful meadow with butterflies and dandelions.
     

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    the grass is always greener...

    which reminds me, i need a cone
     

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    If only you could see the post hidden above you lol

    The train wreck almost spilled over.
     

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    haha. i can imagine some of the shit behind the scenes
     

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    Abscess Treatment

    Self-Care at Home

    If the abscess is small (less than 1 cm or less than a half-inch across), applying warm compresses to the area for about 30 minutes 4 times daily can help.
    Do not attempt to drain the abscess by pressing on it. This can push the infected material into the deeper tissues.
    Do not stick a needle or other sharp instrument into the abscess center because you may injure an underlying blood vessel or cause the infection to spread.

    Source: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/abscess/page6_em.htm
     

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    Hmm. Interesting.

    I have no comments except that I was told it was dangerous to put heat on an abscess, even though deep down I always thought you were supposed to, so I really have no idea.

    EDIT - everything Im finding says heat is the way to go with an abscess.

    Treatment of Abscess
    Small abscesses may be helped by applying warm compresses to the area several times a day. This will sometimes promote spontaneous drainage of the abscess which is important since the primary treatment of abscesses is to drain them. However, it is also important to not attempt to drain an abscess yourself. This can lead to trauma of the surrounding tissue and potentially help spread the underlying infection.
    http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/9...tmentofAbscess
     

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    Ice is useful immediately after a missed shot in order to reduce bruising and swelling.

    Heat can be used when a local infection starts out to assist the body in fighting the infection. It's a standard piece of advice given to people who inject and who suspect a local infection could be starting out. A proportion of abscesses aren't helped by anything other than antibiotics and draining / packing. Attempting to drain an abscess yourself can be dangerous, because if you spike through the abscess, or through squeezing it the infection can very quickly spread to your entire system (eg septicemia) which is life threatening and difficult to treat.

    Download this pdf for the whole story on abscesses and soft tissue infections -> The Care and Treatment of Skin and Soft Tissue Infections among Injection Drug Users in the Community Setting (pdf)
    Last edited by Flexistentialist; 15-06-2008 at 07:33.
     

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    Try to get some burn creme (the stuff that has vitamin e in it) stuff works wonders most needle-exchanges will it give it you for free where i live
     

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