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    mad posts andy, mad posts

    dat d-meth @ 97% though.... nomnom
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    Phone gives them a slightly different transparency. Slightly
    More whitish that seems the flash cancles out. Last pick shows the colour better
    But clarity is shit.

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    Ill have to check to see if I still have pics of this drug.

    I have thought about posting what I know about 4 MAR for a while. Its such a good yet completely dangerous drug when pure.

    This brings back too many memories.
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    I know the reasons for u saying more dangerous, but it is and it isn't.

    Unless you absolutely go nuts on it as in harder than a real fieneing meth user with unlimited supply
    (point being would be have puffs ever few minutes for 3 days ) then its a much safer drug.

    Its way way less toxic/neuro toxic than methamphetamine, and even Methylindioximethamphetamine,
    Which in pure form is very little. In both my opinion and from factual studies (aka the previous meth/mdma/4mar toxicity )
    I believe it to be a very very safer and better choice than methamphetamine. Even going hard on it. But comparison wise
    At same levels same purity and usage equal. The Chance of having a seizure (which is extreamly rare, about as rare as direct mdma realated deaths
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    Oh .. I get u.. When pure as the doseage vs meth dosage. Sorry man
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    I thought it was quite cardio toxic??
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    Ill get my info typed up and send it to a mod to remove stuff that will be unapproved when i get a chance. It destroyed my life and killed friends but I would have it again in a heartbeat regardless. It is that fucking good.
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    Sorry too hear about your experiences with this wonderful drug Zephyr!
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    Quote Originally Posted by consumer View Post
    I thought it was quite cardio toxic??
    I don't know about cardiotoxicity, but I remember reading on erowid that it can cause some kind of lung problems.

    But meth isn't exactly packed full of vitamins and nutrients and either.
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    Yes the 5h2b affinity makes this one more cardiotoxic. That said even as an American feels like I have to post in here cause this drug being so rare around here and that I got to get some a few times, it's one of the rare drugs that people talk up a great deal and more to me it was then only one that lived up to its reputation. I loved the stuff; more fun than MDMA imo and does have some kind of rolly effects, as a pleasure drug sure beats the heck out of MA, AMP, d-AMP, etc. Puree gold.
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    4-Methylaminorex is like the unicorn of the drug world. A fabled and scarce drug, that is basically synthesised for pure enjoyment(considering you could make MA profits much easier).
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    There were a few years in a row where it would pop up here in Adelaide for a few weeks around Christmas every year then disappear again. Maybe Santa's cooking the stuff up?

    I liked it, but it wasn't mindblowingly better than meth or anything. I maintain that your average pipe-fiend probably wouldn't notice the difference. And the half-life is just too much, you definitely want some heavy duty benzos on hand if you're going to binge.
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    Ahh the 'old' ice... its been afew years since ive had some... I do recall that it would give me a good hit when i snorted some, only a very small amount. but when i would snort it the 4mar would give a cocaine like fast onset and 'rush over the body' feel. sorry if you didnt understand what i meant there (it is hard to explain..)

    anyways mate enjoy.. test your stuff and let us all no how u went...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankinit View Post
    There were a few years in a row where it would pop up here in Adelaide for a few weeks around Christmas every year then disappear again. Maybe Santa's cooking the stuff up?

    I liked it, but it wasn't mind blowingly better than meth or anything. I maintain that your average pipe-fiend probably wouldn't notice the difference. And the half-life is just too much, you definitely want some heavy duty benzos on hand if you're going to binge.
    The average pipe fiend would not be geting 4MAR or if so cut (i dont know who on earth would do such. Its def not in the market side of category. More so a hand made prestige project car. Thanks Ond43X, more info previous page
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKL View Post
    Yes the 5h2b affinity makes this one more cardiotoxic. That said even as an American feels like I have to post in here cause this drug being so rare around here and that I got to get some a few times, it's one of the rare drugs that people talk up a great deal and more to me it was then only one that lived up to its reputation. I loved the stuff; more fun than MDMA imo and does have some kind of rolly effects, as a pleasure drug sure beats the heck out of MA, AMP, d-AMP, etc. Puree gold.
    Agreed. Its bloody awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyturbo View Post
    Sorry too hear about your experiences with this wonderful drug Zephyr!
    Yeah well ...I have been too chicken to look at my old photos of the gear. The crystals were not quite like the photos in this thread. Ill have to stop being a dick and just look at the bloody pics.

    Huge, slightly yellow ugly brick like heavy crystals. Most far too big to fit in a pipe.

    It was crazy shit. People would do anything to get their hands on it.

    Its a good drug but I really did underestimate its staying power.

    I dont really know ways to tell it apart easily from meth unless there is a pocket sized spectrophotometer on the market.

    It burns beautifully, smokes forever and doesnt need much heat at all.

    The only way I think to tell if its 4MAR is if the gear is cut as the usual cutter used in meth is used by some to cut their 4MAR.

    They dont smoke the same at all and the crystals look like they have white speckles in them.



    The 4 MAR back in the day had no cutter unless it went through a lot of dealer's hands.
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    In a strange way, 4-MAR actually kept me from getting into ice- not because I didn't like it, I did. It was the first 'ice' I tried and the euphoria was unlike anything.. After trying a different batch though and feeling this anxious rush of goosebumps creeping up my arms and my face breaking out in sweats, I enquired as to what the deal was with this shit..

    I was casually told the difference between methylaminorex and methamphetamine like it was no big deal, like people would just take what they could get. Any scene that saw the two as interchangeable was not one that I could be a part of. On methamphetamine, I'd be jumpy and would just be going around in circles feeling as if I was being productive.

    ..not to say that I didn't dabble over the years, occasionally coming across a little bit of 4-MAR. I liked the way that I could chill out on the stuff, take breaks without feeling this push like I had a million things to do then and there. The novelty eventually wore off though and I can definitely see how people who smoke a lot can't really differentiate between 4-MAR and methamphetamine.

    The whole scene eventually changed, lines between speed and ice got fewer as smokeable gear just became the norm. Old school users of goey who swore they'd never touch 'that ice shit' (probably unaware that most of the goey they'd been getting for the past few years was racemic meth anyway) eventually crossed-over.

    The speedbombs being passed off as eccys disappeared as mdma got cheaper and 'meth' gained its' own following.

    I wonder sometimes how it would have gone if I was first given clean d-methamphetamine instead and never felt that sense of being disillusioned by the reality of a completely different product. In that regard, I'm thankful for 4-MAR and its' apparent rarity.
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    I assure the purity and the substance above is 4MAR.
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    Was looking through the WADA banned list for sports, namely tennis. and it seems 4-MAR isn't present in their stimulant list?

    Obviously a performance enhancer, but would this show up positive for meth? Interesting if the swabs pick this up.
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    Just in case its banned Ive decided to retire from my olympic career ha ha
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    haha, the olympic dream has been crushed.

    Its pretty cool that tennis players don't get tested outside of competition. Even that brat Kyrgios has admitted to smoking the herb while on break. I say, who gives a shit what they do outside of competition, as long as its not androgens or GH.
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    Ive tried ice a few times, maybe 4. I didnt enjoy any of them as I used to be quite in to MDPV which is on another level.

    A friend brought over some crystal and a pipe quite unexpectedly. As im not much of a fan and not but alwya will give it a go so we both smoked.

    A small rock seemed to last forever and the thing I remember the most is a few hours in I felt like id taken MDMA, gurning slightly, upside down smile, licking my lips, a bit mongy and feeling all happy plus pretty good horn. Was like a subtle MDMA experience which I remember thinking was strange

    Does this sound like 4-mar?
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    It's really hard to say dude - a lot of people get an MDMA-esque feeling from methamphetamine the first few times they use it.

    How long did it last? That's probably the best metric, every time I smoked 4-MAR I was awake a good 14 - 18 hours after my last pipe, while usually with meth I can crash out after 12 hours at the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankinit View Post
    It's really hard to say dude - a lot of people get an MDMA-esque feeling from methamphetamine the first few times they use it.

    How long did it last? That's probably the best metric, every time I smoked 4-MAR I was awake a good 14 - 18 hours after my last pipe, while usually with meth I can crash out after 12 hours at the worst.
    I was up all night and well in to the next day, we started Saturday and stopped pretty early Sunday morning and I actually started to panic I wouldnt be able to work the next day.

    Felt a lot less speedy than the other times Id tried Meph, this time I quite enjoyed it apart from there was a slight confusing side to it, almost a dumbing down feel
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    From my experience I wouldn't say 4-mar feels "dumbing down," I always found it an extremely clear, lucid experience. But who knows - these days it could have been pretty much fucking anything.
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