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    Thats right I broke the tip of 29 guage needle off in my arm.. ..cheap ass monoject brand syringes. Anyways, I went to the ER and they said it was located in a superfucial spot and there was nothing they wanted to do in the emergency room, as far as cutting it out. So they refered me to see an otheropidic guy. What do yous guys think, since its in such a superficial spot (not in any veins, nerves, etc.) would you just leave it since I cant even feel it, or have to have it cut out?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thugpassion View Post
    Thats right I broke the tip of 29 guage needle off in my arm.. ..cheap ass monoject brand syringes. Anyways, I went to the ER and they said it was located in a superfucial spot and there was nothing they wanted to do in the emergency room, as far as cutting it out. So they refered me to see an otheropidic guy. What do yous guys think, since its in such a superficial spot (not in any veins, nerves, etc.) would you just leave it since I cant even feel it, or have to have it cut out?
    I'd have it removed, as long as it didn't cost you like a lot of money or anything. Do you have health insurance? (You have probably already been asked this....)

    Anyways I guess it's up to you, but I think it's important that you have it removed. If you ever have to have an MRI, you will have to have it removed before hand.

    Finally, I am sorry that this happened to you.
     

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    Damn, I've always worried about one falling off in a vein, and getting shot through my heart.

    I would get it removed, I know it's not hr but you might be able to cut it out yourself if its like a splinter, but how deep is it?
     

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    i agree.. i would get it removed. for the MRI thing and also if you ever need to fly anywhere, security is a bitch as it is, imagine with something in you constantly making the metal detector go off lol.
     

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    i agree.. i would get it removed. for the MRI thing and also if you ever need to fly anywhere, security is a bitch as it is, imagine with something in you constantly making the metal detector go off lol.
    I'm not sure how strong and MRI is, however, imagine it switches on and pulls that through your body, damn...
     

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    Get it removed! One of my friends dad got a little piece of metal in the leg, but it was, like yours, superficial and not in a vein. It slowly cut through the tissue and one day it entered a vein and fucked up the leg, so now he only has one. I wouldn't risk anything, even though it is of course very unlikely. How large a piece is it? And how deep?
     

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    hard to imagine a needle which is very malleable stainless steel breaking . one can bend them back on themselves several times before they work harden and finally break.
    I don't buy it !
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobhead View Post
    hard to imagine a needle which is very malleable stainless steel breaking . one can bend them back on themselves several times before they work harden and finally break.
    I don't buy it !
    It's happened to several people on Bluelight. There is even a post in Case Studies about a user who had two needles lodged in themselves (pictures included).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamtasticX View Post
    Damn, I've always worried about one falling off in a vein, and getting shot through my heart.

    I would get it removed, I know it's not hr but you might be able to cut it out yourself if its like a splinter, but how deep is it?
    The blood flow in veins is turbulent. Wouldn't the sharp metal part end up into some tissue before reaching the heart?
     

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    I would get it removed.

    I had a piece of glass get stuck in my hand from a broken bottle and over the course of a year, the shard migrated over an inch and was worn completely smooth. I still feel the effects in my hand. No telling where that piece could go.
     

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    When it happened they did take x rays and you could see it under the surface in the crook of my arm(its a 29 guage needle like a little less than 1/2 an inch long), they refered me to see an orthopidist. So I guess its gonna be their best judgment. This happened with monoject brand syriges, granted they had been used a few times before but this never happened in almost 10 years using brands like BD.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thugpassion View Post
    When it happened they did take x rays and you could see it under the surface in the crook of my arm(its a 29 guage needle like a little less than 1/2 an inch long), they refered me to see an orthopidist. So I guess its gonna be their best judgment. This happened with monoject brand syriges, granted they had been used a few times before but this never happened in almost 10 years using brands like BD.
    No it's not 'their best judgment'. It's up to you whether you see another doctor if you don't agree, don't be a fool.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksa View Post
    The blood flow in veins is turbulent. Wouldn't the sharp metal part end up into some tissue before reaching the heart?
    Almost certainly, it would be very hard for the needle to make the turns, and stay in the dead center of the stream, I didn't say my fear had to be logical, just something that I'm kinda illogically paranoid of.
     

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    Just for my own curiosity, was this the first use of the needle or a re-use?

    And I'd advise to have it removed, if for nothing than peace of mind. As others have said, things can migrate and get progressively worse over time.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokomo View Post
    Just for my own curiosity, was this the first use of the needle or a re-use?
    Quote Originally Posted by thugpassion View Post
    This happened with monoject brand syriges, granted they had been used a few times before but this never happened in almost 10 years using brands like BD.
    I believe he had already used it at least once or twice based on what he said here, but I might be wrong.
     

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    Ya, you don't want any metal in you just in case you have to get (or when) an MRI. It's a giant magnet, and will rip any metal clean out of you without hesitation. It would be not unlike getting shot by a rail gun. I must emphasize that you really have no clue what so ever, when you might randomly end up in the hospital, drugs or no drugs. I'd DEFINITELY get that taken care of. Some people actually have to wear a special metal bracelet saying that there is indeed metal in their body, just in case something like what I'm talking about happens. Perhaps you should use a 28 or 27g now.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain.Heroin View Post
    I believe he had already used it at least once or twice based on what he said here, but I might be wrong.
    Ah I see... When I read though that the first time I was thinking it meant he had used the brand a couple of times before, but now re-reading it I think you're correct!
     

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    In any case even if you use a needle a few times (probably in this case more than that), you would have to really do something drastic to cause a needle break. I can hardly imagine one breaking from normal IV practices which put little stress on the needle. You can't totally blame the syringe, OP was doing something wrong aside from reusing multiple times.
     

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    That's exactly what I thought when I read his post. He DID say the tip though, whether that matters or not. In any case it wasn't his question.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxymorphone View Post
    In any case even if you use a needle a few times (probably in this case more than that), you would have to really do something drastic to cause a needle break. I can hardly imagine one breaking from normal IV practices which put little stress on the needle. You can't totally blame the syringe, OP was doing something wrong aside from reusing multiple times.
    It's fairly rare, but it does happen even in clinical settings. I've heard of it happening once in a clinic that I volunteered at years ago with a tetanus vaccination.

    Most of the time that you hear about this though it is someone self injecting, steroids, heroin, insulin, etc. Probably just inexperience or an odd angle, not to mention the extra stresses in situations where the needle (and vein) has been re-used.
     

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    I'm gonna have to agree with OxyMorphone on this one because I am IMO a fairly experienced IV user and even with a Re-Used rig and some heavy scar tissue on injection site I've never broken off even the tip of the needle before, I've seen it bend a bit but never break, but anyway OP good luck with whatever you decide to do (which I hope is going to get it removed!)
     

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    I can speak from experience here... had 12 broken hypodermic needles in my arm (not due to drug use but still very relevant to this discussion obviously). ER doc was not going to touch it... said as long as they didn't cause a problem, I didn't need surgery. Being in constant pain was not enough to justify surgery.

    I was not happy with the idea of living my life with these needles stuck in my arm. I saw 3 different doctors and talked to several others on the phone before I found one who was willing to go after them. It really depends on how deep the needle is and where it is placed... you may or may not need an ortho who specializes in trauma.

    And to dispel the myths around MRI's, I had to have an MRI before I had my needles removed and they told me to let them know if the needles felt hot... they did not come flying out of my arm... that's just not going to happen.

    I had a nerve study conducted and found that one or more of the needles had moved and damaged a nerve. That is one possible complication... another being infection. However, some people are able to live with no problems despite having a needle in their bodies... so it is often treated as a "wait and see" type of thing.

    Good luck getting it out... I know that's what I wanted for my own peace of mind. Be sure to ask the surgeon about long-term complications. My right hand is still half-numb from my surgery... the ortho said it could be up to 2 years to return to full function. Hopefully your needle is in an easy place to access and you won't have that problem. Just be sure to ask all the questions.

    Here's to hoping you don't ever have that experience again!
     

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    My son had a needle snap in his leg at his 8 month immunasation..it can happen even in a clinical setting witH a brand new needle.
     

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    Damn, now i'm going to wake up from having nightmaress about big ass needles breaking off in my and killing me, great.....
     

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    You could probably sue the manufacturing company...
     

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