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    check out the nasal spray post on the new oxymorphones. Decent amount of people are making nasal spray with the new Opana, and it is prettu successful. A lot of people are using alcohol or something to dissolve the opana pretty quick. I tried this and it kind of sucked.

    So i made nasal spray by just getting the opana in bunch of little pieces. Let sit in 10ml of water for 12 hours will be fine. Then filter the thick liquid through a mouth syring and cotton ball. It will filter a lot of the TimeRelease gunk out but it will still be a tad thick but still sprays out afrin bottle and actually gets me real high. I posted how i did it in another thread. Also other methods are there too so you can chose which one if you wanna try it out! its worth it trust me!

    just search opana (oxymorphone) nasal spray
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    Good news! The generic opana er 20's 30's 40's are now out! They are the old formulation which is good till 2023! They are exactly the same as the old opana, they just look different. The 40's are orangish and round and have G74 on one side and nothing on the other. The 20's are still green and it's G 70 something. I cant remember and the same with the 30's. I am ecstatic! As long as your dr does not sign it saying that it must be disbursed as written you can get them. They are from Global Pharmaceuticals and most pharmacies are clueless about them. I got the NDC order number from a pharmacy that gets them and had to give it to my pharmacy. Finally!!! Oh yeah, I get 120 and they were 1800.00, now these are 1000.00. Big difference huh?
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    Whaaaaat this is great news!!!!! Opana back in the building!!!!
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    So I guess chopping these up and letting these soak in water for 12 hours and then vaping the water would not yield a solution that could be snorted?
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    Oxymorphone is my favorite drug by far, and just as everyone else was I was compeletely devestasted when they took the stop signs away. I wont even fuck with roxi or anything else anymore because it takes so much for me to get fucked up and a LOT of oxymorphone seems to be the only thing doing the trick. (And I snort by the way) I even IV'd 9-12 k4's the other night and dont get me wrong i was fucked up but still not like really fucked up the way oxymorp. gets me, seems like no matter how much i do of something nothing get me like oxymorphone. Then starting coming across the moons, which I was like hell yeah but people charge the shit out of them. Anyways I guess I will get to the point of what I am gettin to, I came across some of the new generic oxymorphone that you can crush and snort like someone else said a few posts up it was a G74 Orangish Oxymorphone, they are kind of small. And boy I tell you i was excited, once again ppl were charging the shit out of them so i just got one to see what it was like (I normally used to snort between 2-4 old stop sign 40s at a time, daily [i was the type who does it all at once in a day and wont start w/ds till next day so i try to get as fucked up as I can in one go] depending on my money situation each day. So I was very excited cause this was the first time I came across or heard of these new ones you can snort again and was going to start my hunt for dealers to get better prices and and to buy quanity for im sure all yall know the obvious reason for that. But Anyway I did this new G74 40 mg (oh and sorry on last tid bit of info I have been out of the game for like a year and half from 9 month jail sentence, 2 rehabs, and stuff like that so my tolerance shouldnt be like it was, at first atleast cause boy it jumps back quick) so I get this new 40 and was excited thinking I know im not going to be nodding but I should feel pretty good. And you know what, they are fucking terrible. I would never buy them again, I dont know care how cheap,(well i would sell them, but not buy to use) I would rather spend the same amount or maybe even $10 more for one the moon 15s than one of these new 40s. I barely felt shit out of it so I was extremely disappointed. But the other day I came across a little grip of the e 40 none crush opanas for very cheap so i bought a little grip of them and experimented on a few of them doing different way i read about, because i could never find a straight answer on how to get good and high off these new ones. One person says this, another this saying other way doesnt work, then ppl saying you can do anything at all, so I did my own experimenting and I got it. I got it to where you can get nice a high off these New Non-Crush Opana and since I can get them for the low that is where it is at and, and I tell you it is pretty fucking strong. But I just wanted to give warning to ppl gettin excited about these new little circle G ones ( 40mg is G74 I dont know what the others are but know they are G 7-something but dont waste your time or money on them, they fucking suck. Just trying to give some ppl a heads up and try these Noncrushable ones. I would post the best way I found to do it and get nice and high but I feel like this post is way too long already cause I am too chatty cause Im high as fuck on them right now, and ppl probably wont even read this whole message. But if yall do, you can respond back and Ill tell yall the way I have been doing them and they are the best way to do oxymorpone right now (besides the moons but everywhere i hear about they are expensive everywhere. And I have been showing everyone I know this way I found out to get ppl likin the E 40s since I can get grips for the low
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    ^^sooooo...whats the best way for the E40s?

    I was disappointed at first with the new generics, but then I did a little more then I normally do and I was nodding all night. They taste like shit and seem to really gum up in your sinuses. I was trying to get the drip out of my throat for like 30 minutes yesterday by hocking a loog...now my throat is sore as fuck today. i was high as fuck all night though. they didn't seem as good as the old stops signs, but they do the trick.
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    The new ones, how to exploit please?
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    read if you want to snort them and actually feel most of it. 
    1. buy a pedipaw
    2. shave it down with it
    3. snort a hydro with it or something thats a little smoother and mix it up a little and eat big pieces of gel.
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    Okay, so I have read this entire thread but I did not see anyone have experiences with trying multiple of the methods mentioned. I obtained 3 of the 20mg bioconcave and I am trying to use them to manage my pain until my appointment next week and hopefully I can get something more effective.

    Anyway, I read about the pedegg/bake/freeze/chop method somewhere else and I tried it with 1 of them. I am not sure how people do that but I ended up with a pile of melted plastic for the most part. I ended up putting it in a glass of water which I plan to drink unless someone has another suggestion. I definitely do not recommend this method. Get yourself a dremel, they are handy to have anyway with all the attachments available. You will be able to complete a ton of household task with it. You can pick up one for $20 to 25.

    I then used the dremel method and that worked great for getting it down to as close to a powder as this stuff will go. However, even with a considerable amount of baking soda used, the gel is too much to deal with and not something I can do and be around other people in my house without raising eyebrows. I did a 1/3 of one last night and a 1/3 of one tonight and the effect was okay but just too cumbersome.

    So, I have 1 and 1/3 of one left plus one in liquid that is now a bloated gel ball in a glass with some specs in it and I am curious about 1) the nasal spray and 2) just drinking it. How does this compare to insufflation? Also, does the B12 really make that much of a difference over the BS? I really need to make what I have left work so I can do what I got to do. Also, i didnt remove the coating, would it be better to remove the coating and then grind and continue insufflation?

    If anyone has questions about the dremel method, I think I can help. I was able to get 95% of it down to as small of pieces as I can go.

    It seems like the nasal spray would waste a lot being that the liquid is very sticky (stuck my finger in my current glass).
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    So what's the deal with global opana in terms of IV use. They are the ones that are round with a G on them.

    They crush right up. Can you just crush add water and draw up or is there more to that to do it than that? I am just wondering because I think they still have some sort of tamper-resistant crap in them. So basically is it ok to use them like a roxi or do you need to do more to them than that to use them relatively safely.

    I know its dangerous to shoot a pill or any drugs but all the same its gonna happen and I would rather that they were used correctly.
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    I bought the af*in no drip nasal spray And the stuff that's inside is a very thick liquid. Similar intact to the opana ers left in water overnight. I poured the gel put of the A*rin bottle and filled with 15ml of water then placed 5 opana er 20's in the water and let it set overnight. Last night as a matter of fact.(also I removed as much coating as possible don't want pastel green stuff leaking out my nostril) its been 24 hours now. In the morning I will try it out and post the outcome. It seems to me though if this method does work then grinding the pills down with a dremmel/pedegg would leave one to believe could decrease the amount of time required to wait for the pill to release the opana goodness.

    To dope master- I am sorry guy but the only iv drug use I take part in is the hospital administered kind I wish I could help you out. Really I wish my doctor wouldn't sign the dispense as written line on my script so I could get the more easily usable generics and acctually benefit from taking such a strong narcotic.
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    Ok...so the nasal spray works ... Well sort of.... It makesit so thick it doesn't spray as much as ooze out of the applicator. Also it isn't as strong as the old ers or the irs intranassally. I believe this may be from a lack of absorption because of the jelly like substance. However it is noticeably more effective than orally... My hope is that more people who have tried or are willing to try could post their experiences and their alternative attempts and west be able to work this er problem out.
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    Since posting I have seen a few people crush, iso, filter, and vape the pills into a film which is then drawn up and injected. That is with the global ERs which is what I was asking about. It seemed to turn out ok for them. Im not sure if it was the healthiest way to do it, but they didn't drop dead on the spot.

    I still think they make the IRs for rx, but they are hard to come by.

    Since posting I learned the globals are extract really well using the old skool Iso method. Its a really strong drug so be careful. Its a lot stronger in the rig than sniffing them. ALOT stronger.
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    I too HATE the fake opana's!! I only found the real ones like 2 years ago and loved them for pain. I found that snorting a little here & there throughout the day did me real good of a 30 or 40. I had heard about the new ones & wouldnt waste my money on them but a friend gave me 1 a few months back to try. I chewed it up a bit them swallowed it down with a mixed drink. I never felt it. About a month ago he gave me 2 and I chewed them both & still NOTHING. Well last night he gave me 3 and I figured if 3 didnt help me out any that I wont ever do them again. So...about 20 mins ago I took them only this time I cut them in half with my pill cutter & then took a razor blade & sliced them up as small as I could then took the pieces with a bottle of OJ. I feel a LITTLE something now but I am hopping that they help me out. I'm 30 and Have had cronic back sense 16. I will report in soon.
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    Everyone's best bet for the high you are looking for is the global generics. However I have read on other forums that iv usage is extremely detrimental to ones health. And snorting them is not a good idea as they contain silica or silicone or some form of it that is known to cause cancer.
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    Here's what a friend of mine found is the best way to insufflate (sp?) the new 'plastic' OPs. Use a dremel to grind off the outer coating, down to the white. After that, use the dremel grinding tool to grind it down into powder...(into some sort of container, so you don't lose any.) Friend says a 1/4 of a 20 mg will last for the day. (up to 8 hours). This is the best & only way that actually works. Good luck, be safe & BE CAREFUL.
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    mmmm opanas are delightful in any form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grenfrog76 View Post
    I am brand new here so I'm sorry for any ignorance. I'm in Pain Management and was recently prescribed generic Oxymorphone ER 15mg. I've heard that the generic has been abused cause it doesn't have the gelling precaution and can be abused much easier. I have a really high tolerance. Coming off 8mg Suboxone/day due to cost-insurance won't cover when prescribed for PM. I started the new prescription and found I'm not on a high enough dose but can't go back to my doc for a month. How do I get a stronger dose out of my prescription? Has anyone had the generic version? My 15 mg is a round white tab with a cursive looking D engraved on one side and 262 on the other. Any advice is much appreciated.
    It might be that the suboxone is still blocking the opana a bit. As for how to get more, you get about 4x the dose by snorting it compared to taking it orally, and I think you can snort the ones you have. Oh and that's not a 'D' on them, it's a half moon.
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    Hey all, I know this has been covered time & again, but I got about 20 of the biconcave green 20 E's, and hace been experimenting--don't have a dremel tool, but I do have an extremely sturdy Ped Egg type device. I've tried everything with them (because they were free, woop woop!) and these were the top most effective methods.

    Disclaimer: none of these methods have given me the blissful "rush," but have all resulted in that nice, warm feeling and eventual nod. Also, the wax matrix in them means that it is pretty harmful to snort & smoke (i would imagine--silicon is never good for the lungs) so use with caution. I don't plan on getting any more of these after running out. Far too much work.

    There is also no provision here for slamming. Not something I'm interested in trying with a chewing gum pill.

    Except for the water/alcohol overnight method, always start with this: lick & wipe off coating with tshirt or whatever. ped egg (using pliers or something of the sort to hold the pill, of course, to keep from getting your skin) or dremel down to dust. You'll get a mixture of fine dust and a few flaky, waxier particles--these can be sifted and cut down into tinier pieces using nail clippers. So now you have your powder. What next?

    1) In my opinion, the most noticeably awesome high came from smoking it. Just like base H, on a foilie, with a cardboard tube (for the love of god don't waste good drugs by vaping them with a straw!). Won't run quite like H so it's better to crease the foil, add a long line of the powder and run the flame down as you move down. I was quite pleased with this--it tasted and burned and vaped EXACTLY like base H. This was a shot in the dark since I wasn't sure it would vape properly without converting it to another form, but lo and behold, it worked beautifully.

    2) Snort. It'll eventually gel up in the back of your throat/sinuses (and is pretty fucking incredible when it comes out; I blew a bogey the girth and length of a betting pencil, I shit you not). doesn't hit you quite like the IRs, but it does give a nice, mellow buzz for some time)

    3) parachuting with alcohol. I've heard/read that alcohol potentiates and increases the awful BA of this drug (~10, but that it can be substantially increased with alcohol. I tried this method with the powder and a rizzla, and had a few stiff drinks before and after, and while it did give a slightly better onset "rush" after it kicked in (~15, 20 minutes), it was short lived and left me irritable as fuck.

    4) alcohol extraction. 90%+ iso or ethanol, dump the pill (can be whole or shaved), let it sit for a few hours, and do whatever you want with it--if you sift out the pieces, you can dilute it with water without it gelling up and snort it (some people are and some aren't OK with snorting liquid, although this is much easier if you use the nasal spray method), or you can just drink the mixture--with all of the OM released and the alcohol potentiating it, this provides a decent buzz. But the best way I've found with this method is the ever-faithful plugging. I read that OM does not have any higher a rectal than oral BA, but anecdotally, I'm not so sure that's true. I got a pretty good high, a decent rush and one hell of a nod.

    5) CWE. dump a couple of these (WHOLE PILLS, NOT crushed) into a full glass of cold water (you'll need more of the CW than you did if you used the alcohol method), let it sit for 24 hours. you'll be left with a couple of weird, translucent green domes--at this point, they are essentially useless, but if you're like…probably everyone else on this forum…nothing should go to waste, right? The liquid left behind, now slightly viscous, is good to drink or plug. Again, if you drink it, do it with an alcohol chaser or whatever else helps you nod. It makes it better.

    and finally, 6) - just chew the shit out of it until it tastes bitter and, well, like an opiate, and wash it back with some good whiskey.

    As far as potentiators go, here's what I have found helps, in order of efficacy:
    Alcohol
    Phenergan
    DXM
    Diphenhydramine (for the nod)
    Xanax/valium (again, this is just a combination to relax you and get the nod--be careful. It's so easy to OD on an benzopiate cocktail).

    Hopefully this is helpful. I still have about 400mg left and would love to hear some other stories about people in the same plight.
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    Sorry for the double post, but I felt that this deserves a bump because I just dosed with the best experimental method yet (so also, this might be a little scatterbrained and filled with nod-induced trailing! ed: I woke up a full hour after typing that last bit). It's a LOT like some of the methods mentioned above, but I'm going to take you step-by-step for a method that legitimately worked for me, resulting in either a dark brown powder or a light brown gummy-type product, depending on how you want to use it and therefore whether or not you take the final step.

    So I have read loads about people experimenting (semi-successfully) with CWE, alcohol extraction, cooking, filing, dremeling, baking and crushing…bottom line, we all know these pills are a fucking pain and are doing whatever we can to get around the time release/wax matrix. I decided to combine a few of the methods to: (i) extract the oxymorphone (WITHOUT SPENDING IT!!!) ; (ii) break down the wax; and (iii) dry it out into a usable form (railed, bumped, gummed, sublingual, parachute, smoking…etc. etc. whatever; just remember this drug's abysmal oral BA without [and honestly, even with] potentiation). So without further ado…

    1) Create a solution in which to drop & leave the dose for 24 hours (at least; patience is a virtue). I took two pills and dropped them into a cup containing 25ml surgical spirit (90% ethanol; isopropyl alcohol will work here as well, and since the alcohol is only to break down the wax and not to extract the OM without any gelling occurring, you do not need to worry about a certain percentage of alcohol beyond this. Theoretically total alcohol composition could be as low as 5%, but use more to be safe) and 125ml ice-cold water. Yes, these pills gel up in water, but since they were to be left without being disturbed, there only needed to be enough alcohol in the mixture to gradually break down the chemical composition of the wax.
    Because oxymorphone is cold water soluble and the fillers (the important ones, anyway) are not, and because of the alcohol, 24 hours of this sitting in the refrigerator left the pills looking like translucent, amorphous blobs, and the liquid as slightly more viscous and a touch cloudier than water. Because of the alcohol, however, gelling was kept to a minimum as the alcohol broke down the thickening agent.

    2) Double boil. This method would probably be served just as well by pouring the contents into a large, shallow container and letting the liquid evaporate (in fact, that is probably better as you stand a 0% chance of accidentally burning or vaping perfectly good OM), but I was impatient so I boiled water in a large pan, set a metal mixing bowl over it, and poured the contents (without the "balls" of the pills) into the mixing bowl. After the water boiled I set the cooker to medium-low heat and very, very slowly allowed evaporation to occur. This took about 15 minutes.

    3) Remove the remnants. What was left in the mixing bowl was a white & light brown, sticky (but not waxy) residue. I used a straight edged razor (because I don't have enough junkie habits as it is) to scrape every little bit. I transferred the scrapings to a square of wax paper. It ultimately resembled a light brown, flaky wax in appearance, but upon further inspection and to the touch, it wasn't waxy at all; rather, it was just a bit wet and sticky (perhaps this is what the wax matrix broke down into).

    4) Dry!. This would probably be easiest done by flattening out the residue on the wax paper and placing it in a windowsill that gets plenty of sun for a day or two. Once again, however, I was impatient so I went ahead and dried it using multiple paper towels. This is where I was a bit surprised. It wasn't "wet" or "sticky" at all--it was greasy and when pressed repeatedly between two sheets of kitchen roll/paper towels (pressed, soak the towels, remove to a new towel and repeat until dry), the product would leave a very obvious and noticeable grease stain (again--wax & ethanol byproduct?). I repeated this about ten times until I was happy with the product's consistency and it was no longer leaving a large, transparent grease stain on paper.

    5) Crumble or Chunk. After the above, the product was dry and malleable enough to crumble into a fine enough powder to insufflate. It could also be rolled into larger, more intact chunk or chunks for smoking. I tried this with a very small piece. It didn't run all that well (just a bit), but it did vape beautifully and smelled and tasted exactly like the higher-quality #3 we get around London (when you know where to go). I railed the rest, and WHEW. That hit me harder than anything has in a very, VERY long time. I was mostly worried that I had burned or vaped off the OM but I swear to you, of the 40mg in this batch, it hit me like I got at least a 35mg yield, which is fucking amazing for what basically amounted to a 2am bored shitless, freestyle chemistry experiment.

    Now, I know it seems like a lot of trouble, but for me this kind of thing is as much about the process, experimentation and ritual as it is about the rush. And there was no shortage of rush here. Felt like the first time I ever railed Opana; certainly this is the first time I've properly felt it since getting those shitty ass biconcave E/Rs. Feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback, especially if you try this yourself. And stay safe! There is NOTHING that will bump your tolerance up faster than railing straight oxymorphone.

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    No kidding. Lutopia
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    Which tip does one use on the Dramell moter drill I use a pointy sand-paper one and I could not find the result. Lutopia
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    Hello all,

    I have been reading/checking in on this thread off and on for what must be a couple years, and since activating my account have decided to drop my two cents. I know this thread is old, but after reading through the entire thing (which, as you may have noticed, contains some redundant suggestions regarding insufflation methods), I decided that I had a bit of perspective that people may find useful when considering a MoA.

    I wouldn't bestow any method I'm listing here my stamp of approval, so don't get the wrong idea, but i can share with you what I've experienced/observed with some of the different M's'o'A. THERE IS NO SAFE WAY TO INJECT THESE PILLS, please do not mistake accounts of experience for suggestions. If anything, please pay close attention to the negative side effects I have experienced from experimenting with these methods.

    (Let me first clarify that, unless I specify otherwise, I am talking about the new, round, concave, Opana ERs with an "E" on one side and a number on the other. I have tried an assortment of these (including the 40mg, 30mg, and 15mg) with lightly varied results - mostly due to the size/chemical makeup or proportions)

    The first method I attempted, mainly because I didn't have any prep gear, was chewing, which was an improvement over swallowing whole, but the effect of an entire 40mg pill merely became mildly noticeable whereas I couldn't tell I'd even taken anything when I swallowed one whole.

    When I felt it was safe to re-dose, I decided to grind one of the 40s and snort it (trying both the Dremel method and the microplane method (the dremel method is far superior, btw)), but the polymers in the pill make it dissolve inconsistently and it seems that the 'powder' fails to absorb effectively. I will say that this method seems to produce a very noticeable jump in bioavailability compared to oral administration, but the powder is not ideal for snorting.

    I later attempted an isopropyl alcohol extraction for injection, which was a wicked pain in the ass, but produced enough of a boost in bioavailability and extraction efficiency to motivate me to keep experimenting.

    Here's what I did (THIS DOES NOT PRODUCE A CLEAN EXTRACTION AND IS SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR A SAFE METHOD):

    1. Using an exacto blade, I carefully shaved off the colored coating (which keeps things a little cleaner, but may not be necessary).

    2. I took the microplane to the pill using needlenose pliers to grip the pill. After 20 minutes, I was left with a pile of powder and some strings of rubber that rolled up as I was grinding. I chopped these into tiny bits and placed them in a 2oz metal ramekin, adding roughly 1.5 oz of 94% isopropyl rubbing alcohol. I stirred the solution every thirty seconds to one minute with a toothpick. After 10-15 minutes, the 'blob' we keep hearing about formed in the bottom of the glass, but with light agitation, the blob would separate into a suspension. I continued to do this for around 45 minutes.

    3. After my final stir, I let the 'blob' reform in the bottom of the ramekin and, using a needleless syringe, lifted the liquid from the upper portion of the mixture, leaving a little as possible in the container, but being careful not to suck up any goop. (the liquid will all be a little bit viscous, especially toward the bottom of the container, but there is a distinct difference in the liquid portion and the 'blob').

    4. Using a 3cc needleless with some cotton packed into the end, I filtered the liquid portion into another 2oz metal ramekin (a 2oz ladle can be used instead) and placed the container on the stove eye (you need a coil stove for this to work, as open flames will cause the isopropyl alcohol to combust). Slowly adjusting the heat from low on up, I found the setting that allowed the solution to evaporate without boiling (tiny bubbles will begin to appear on the bottom of the ramekin, but will not rush to the surface). Once the visible liquid was evaporated, I scraped the light golden powder from the bottom and allowed it to sit out until it was completely dry and no longer smelled, even faintly, of alcohol.

    5. This resultant powder is soluble in warm or cold water, and is injectable.

    The problem with this method is that, while it produces a powder that can be injected, the OM does not appear to efficiently leech into the liquid. Subsequent rinses and the repeat of steps 2-5 may remedy this, but holy fuck, what a pain in the ass!... not to mention the anxiety produced by resorting to injecting all of those fillers. All else aside, I personally suffered no adverse affects from doing this (but I suggest reading the thread containing the FDA warning regarding the injection of these pills to further educate yourself about the dangers involved)

    I actually evaporated the remaining isopropyl alcohol out of the blob using the stove as described above and swallowed the resultant taffy-like wad. This produced a noticeable boost in effect with the 40mg variety.

    Because this was not working as well, and I was bound and determined to successfully inject one of these pills, I started going over my notes on 'crisping' and began to experiment. At this point, I had access to the 30mg variety (yes, the concave pills again), but have tried this with the 40s as well with similar results.

    Here is what I did (THIS IS NOT SAFE):

    1. I used an x-acto blade to remove the colored coating, cut one 30 or 40mg pills in half, and placed it in my spoon.

    2. I then began to heat the spoon from below with a butane cigarette lighter, applying maximum heat until the pill puffed up (i.e. was no longer concave and had started to puff out upwards).

    3. After softening the half-pill, I took the butt of a bic lighter (ideally lightly moistened) or another blunt, smooth object and flattened the half-pill until it was roughly the size of a dime, flipping it in the spoon when it started to curl until it eventually stuck and began to melt. This portion of the heating calls for/requires MUCH less heat than you used in step 2, as you do not want to burn the pill or evaporate even larger portions of the OM. If heated slowly and while moving the flame around, a light brown/honey coloration can be achieved.

    4. Once 0% of the pill was white any longer, I would set the spoon down on an insulated surface and let it cool just slightly.

    5. At this point, I would add 2cc - 3cc of water and agitate the pill with the flat end of the plunger, only scraping the spoon in one direction to help it dissolve into the water as slowly as possible so there aren't any floaty bits that should be dissolved.

    6. I would then use a needleless 1cc syringe and pull 80-90 units through cotton or other filter if it's handy (double filter, especially if any floaters are present (if the coating was cleaned off at the beginning, the presence of visible floaters in the solution can be minimized), and pull the solution up into a brand new, sharp 1cc syringe. If done well, the liquid will be mildly viscous - roughly the consistency of a very light syrup (maybe comparable to the liquid from fruit cups with fruit juice... just slightly more viscous than water). I would then inject the solution and repeat every so often until satisfied.

    This method seems to deliver the OM effectively and quickly. I would speculate that the efficiency of extraction and delivery feels like it must be over 50%. Unfortunately, problems can arise right off. I noticed that even a partial miss/jump (even a drop) would cause irritation of the veins and surrounding tissue. This would typically only leave you with a knot or hard spot in that area and a swollen vein that needs time to heal. In some cases, abscesses can more easily result (likely due to the body's inability to rush the substance away from the affected area, and the subsequent festering of bacteria that may be present in the shot/liquid). Once again, you'll need to look at the thread I mentioned followng the previous extraction method for more info on the dangers of injecting these pills. I witnessed other immediate adverse effects resulting from the use of this method, and I have watched about a half dozen other people try it multiple times. I used this method myself to inject 4-12 pills per month (I was given some extra pills from a friend's prescription once a month) over a period of about 6 months and feel like I escaped any real short-term damage (as far as any long term damage that plans to rear its head down the road, I cannot say). I have noticed that the occurence of cotton fever seems higher when using this method, and I did suffer a surface abscess (which, because it was so close to the surface of my skin, resulted in relatively mild discomfort until I drained it) which I suspect may have been related to injecting concave opana ER pills, but I am not 100% sure.

    As for the immediate adverse effects mentioned above (and this happened a couple of days ago): A friend of mine prepared and injected some opana ER solution after crisping and immediately turned beet red from hypertension and was having trouble breathing. This was his first time using this method and his solution was darker than mine usually is. He was also in a hurry and may not have filtered as well as I typically do. In 5 minutes, homeostasis seemed to return, and in 30, his breathing/blood pressure returned, basically, to normal. After another 4 hours had passed, he still felt pretty badly beat-down, but was no longer in a state of terror. I'd like to state that I put my shoes on as soon as I noticed his symptoms and prepared to rush him to the hospital. This did not wind up being necessary, but, man was it a scare. His health and/or life seemed at great risk. He re-dosed opiates much later in the evening, and reported to feel much better. When he woke up the next day he could barely move. All of his joints were so inflamed he couldn't bend them. Even his fingers were locked up. He did not re-dose, so his feeling better the night it happened may have resulted from the masking effect of the opiates he took. We have heard rumors of the major local walk-in clinic working with the authorities to crack down on IV drug abuse, so he is afraid to go in (I'm pretty sure that can't be legal at all, but somehow it wouldn't surprise me). Has anybody ever heard of anything like this happening? I think he is done using opana ER via IV, but I really wish I could figure out some way to help him in the mean time (and please don't tell me he deserves whatever he gets, that would be counterproductive).

    I managed to muster the will power to refuse to inject any of the solution, but another friend finished the solution and did not have the same experience, so I am left to suspect that poor filtering was, at least, partially responsible.

    Any time I used the crisping method for extraction, I did so due to a fear of withdrawals in the midst of a shortage in cash which leads to mild complacency. At best, this method works (to the extent that you can successfully (not safely) deliver the OM), but is in no way ideal. I fear that the long term effects will certainly outweigh the short term risks discussed above, so please be very careful and try not to resort - people do very dangerous things when they are desperate (as is apparent in this post). INJECTING THESE PILLS IS NOT SAFE. EVER.

    Does anybody else have experience with with some of the methods above that were not discussed prior to this post? I am curious what is behind some of the side effects that I could not really wrap my mind around.
    Last edited by Colonel Contin; 12-04-2014 at 23:28.
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