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    A lot of the time when I'm asleep or even sitting in the living room my teeth chatter and I chew on my lips compulsively. Until I saw something changed everything at the sex shop! It's a small silicone couples vibrator that's worn in the v**** and over the woman's c***. Or you can use like a handless jaw strap small end in the mouth between the teeth and big end under the chin.
    PS did I mention it had 10 vibration modes?!? Yea that's fun.

    I don't believe I'm allowed to tell the brand name in the forum for advertising reasons...
    I just thought I HAD to share! Trying to link a picture of such an object but it won't let me attach a pic
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    Eh. Dosage varies. U won't die of MDMA, just dehydration or being an idiot, would take a couple dozen grams to actually kill you. My friend likes the punch and utter bliss so my friend takes around 500-800mgs for starter (230lb 6'2") and usually consumes about 1.8g in a session. Keep in mind he does MDMA maaaybe 4 times a year. On a good year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joneydone View Post
    Rule # 1. test your substance before you buy to save your money and health. To save even more money buy your test kits here <<snip, no advertising>>
    The 100% best advice, AGAIN, test to be sure: test kits save lives, bad nights. Reagent kits are the best we have unless you're the chemist, have time to send to a testing lab or you're experienced & sure of source. Finding the HR dose & the dose you Love you are best to find after finding HR dose. Great charts exist on Bluelight, Erowid for assisting to interpret results via different Reagent methods. Also, YouTube has many videos on testing using various Reagents live.

    Of course one can OD on MDMA let alone complications from: transient hypertensive reaction, reactions with SSRI's are a very risky mix as well as dehydration. Do not mix with MAOIs of any kind: this is lethal. If you're new, find a HR dose then a "fav" dose. Tolerance via weight can sometimes be counter intuitive once you've been experienced. Look at ratios of: 1 to 1.25 mg(MDMA)/75kg(body weight) is a good way to start, then adjust. Please PM me if you have better dosing info. I know this is not a HR thread per se.

    LD-50 ratios (learn a little pharmacology, notice it's 5 KG's! for MDMA not 1) Source Erowid

    THC 1270 mg/Kg oral rats(male) 20 mg o
    Mescaline 370 mg/kg oral rats

    Psilocybin 285 mg/Kg iv mice 12-20 mg o

    MDA 92 mg/kg5 ip mouse
    MDMA 350 mg/kg5 oral rats

    The LD-50 of LSD 25 is said to be over 1000x the effective dose in humans but is believed to be higher (talking lethal-ity here! Stupidity has it's consequences) yet is known in mice/rats as quite low. THC's LD-50 is said to not exist in most humans yet again, does do in rats. The LD-50 for Psilicybin is 200x effective human dose. Still, despite some nonalignment, learning about LD-50 ratio system can help your HR chops & understanding abstracts on the topic.
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    Hi there. this is my first posting here, itīs great site...
    So.. to come down I use 1/5 cup of olive oil mixed with a fresh Grape fruit. which I take 2 times until a few days before intake.
    this helps not to be overagitated before and after.

    also I use a candle to breath in heated air into each nostril for short times as therefore the nose is open, no nausea and much cleaner spirit. the days before I reduce meditation. afterwards next days a little bit meditation. kriya kundalini breathing in the long run helps a lot, but also strengthens mentally so much that any drug does not work likewise for oversensitive people. this Kind of technique is: just extensive breath for about 10 in and 10 seconds out, when walking, sometimes a few fresh breaths to get enough air, easily, with rest times of this, in total 2 hours walking at least. this is done once a month, or less, really strengthening and no depression therefore.

    last week-end after long time some mdma. Problem with me these days: a girl friend unwantingly came for a week, afterwards somehow not creative and 1st time somehow feeling quite unpotent, generally not feeling very well. the aftereffects of mdma for me is easy overheating, also too much sexual upcoming. so ... next day I did something great:
    to cool down and have clean energy: in the evening 10 easy sit-ups, then a skiing posture of about 1 min. then sitting down, calming a minute. breathing then about 30 times moderately deep and moderately fast, not too slow. last 2 breaths standing up in skiing-sitting posture. breathing out then, holding as long as possible, stopping breath. for about 30 seconds at least until slight deficiency comes feelingly. sitting down, waiting a few more seconds, then breathing in completely, holding again, as long as possible, rather keeping the chin to chest. (I am advanced yoga teacher). breathing out, in completely. Holding the air again a short time again and again: (breathing out just a Little bit, in completely Holding again and again for some minutes). if still too much heat then now a cold shower very good and getting to sleep easily. few hours less sleep out of this normally.

    anyway next days I get some mushrooms. which have a more therapeutical psychic effect then mdma in some ways for me. are natural. this will cleanse me out more. think this helps. also lots of green tea in the long run is essential if using mdma to keep the system fresh. coffee makes some overtension over the years.
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    The problems of MDMA is often discussed but not seen in some certain plain practical effects: the upper spine, especially the vertebraes above the heart chakra, towards lower neck vertebraes cool down too much after an intake. Especially 2 or 3 days later when waking up the morning and then following the next weeks these vertebraes cool down too much, some people feel depression, tiredness, tension and go to do some kind of yoga practice. Though the problem is not solved that way. Better you place your finger tips upon those vertebraes for some minutes to feel some tingling, to activate them again for normal non-drug spectrum every day life. As in a high state of MDMA the body also breathes a bit more, but still these nerves get activated in a realitively much higher state, they followingly would cool down too much. Now lets see the specific breathing pattern for these processes:
    When breathing in a very small range of in and out, there is not always lots of oxygen coming and going, also not much cleaning of co2, as compared to a breathing of much air intake, holding a bit and releasing again. This small range of breathing is the typical recovery state next days, as laying down, just recovering, the body in a late after work process still hot or cooling down with some sexual effects. Slowly the MDMA takes out the sexual overeffects after some years normally or effects your libido. If you breath through an artificial tube, you would get too much of co2 residing in the body, after some minutes your system adapts to this estate, can breath some oxygen therefore, but is a bit in a similair/parallel situation to have an intake of MDMA or some other stimulant. So, if you have a very natural intelligent constitution of well breathing patterns, not much co2 normally, fresh air system, then the first times MDMA will work very much on you. The more it will work, if you have this clean air system, but in addition can clean out more co2 by adding that tube effect, which was cleansed before. Beeing cleansed means simply there are some catalysators like alcohol, clear mind, body effectuation, aspirin maybe, which all can be used once in a session of breathing a few minutes through a tube, whereby a state similair to meditating is produced. It is a not everyday situation of breathing then, with lots of co2 being able to breath out, partially some refined co2 will be released away like in meditation, also some better oxygen support situation, feeling the fresh air after some minutes of tube use, also after the use itself. As MDMA is an outward stimulant, lets see how it is with the conventional inner stimulants and their way of digestion. This way, if intense is done mainly by sex and some few other estates like deep conscious dreams or some other rare estates. So empathy is not really positively influenced after some years of having taken MDMA as the person forgets its mental effects, also the feeling is changed rather to neutral, seldom having those younger emotional estates. Then I would recommend to take it again after some years, but rather only out of this reason, otherwise there might be again some additional intake the following months.
    So lets see the breathing patterns when having sex: the body actually is in a higher working estate but still is breathing more, but still lots of nerval arousal, still like having a bit too less air. after the sex the person feels a bit depleeted and empty if no partner, which would be normal if not doing advanced pranayama (yogic) excercizes. If breathing in, holding the air, then breathing out, the body rather reloads, gets some fresh oxygen, which can be done after sex. The problem of sex is that it therefore produces some ageing effects also.
    Therefore watch out, if you once sleep out in the morning, feelingly have a bit more fresh air when waking up, as already a bit mid-later morning time, but just shallow relaxed well breathing. A few deeper breathings maybe and some stretches then, then strangely some sexual arousal can be natural. Though if one would stimulate himself then, afterwards there would be that energy depletion. also when having sex it would just take short time as the system would not feel so good for long time when breathing much. So what is the solution, how to keep young in this? wake up, do a few stretches, feel good, feel some sexual integration, but dont breath too much in and out, rather get tension by not breathing too much and starting. have some short brakes in between and let the air out completely again and again. this cleanses the light body and has some following positive effects as afterwards more clean air can come in the system. let the sexual system therefore get an automatic run, not making you stupid, but rather letting exfold itself. feelings are similair to MDMA or a stimulant that situation. also it strengthens your emotional system. after the self sexual stimulation which was rather calm by not so much body movements, but more inner freedom, as it was done alone, you wont feel alone, you will rather feel energized. you can do some few deeper inhalations and holding, but not too much so the system adapts (like doing at least 3 mins to 18 - 20 mins for blood change effects). then stretch also your back between the shoulder blades, to energize the heart chakra.
    this stretching is done by: lying on your back, arms are to the side about 90 degrees. then like a child get one arm straight, turn your head to that side the other arm not straight. rather put your ellbows back to get the stretch. then afterwards pull your pectoralis minor down as much as possible by arm inward rotation. plainly stretch the area at the back between the shoulder blades, both arms straight together forward.
    also dog standing posture on the ground, with head maximally turned upwards to get maximum extension in the spine from up to down enables the process. also some other techniques which cleanse that process to get not too much sexual energy, controlling it, which is a bit too difficult to explain here as it is very detailed in its process. For instance it includes a stretch impuls to separate both body sides right and left. a movement similair to dancing which explains some positive dancing movements just to mention.


    Anyway it is quite visible in this article here, how MDMA or some other stimulants can effect the system in some negative ways and how some of their possible cleansing methods therefore work. when I look out the window today, it is sunday morning now, I see so many chemtrails on the sky, it must be more then 15 just in that south-eastern small part the curtain is open, a very dense net... so lets hope some effects get cleared out and also some mind evolution is taking place as these materialistic people already nearly believe they have the material world in their hands. ... wow, I watch the sky more, how many trails, it is like watching 5 different layers of airplane traffic directions, lots of parallel ways, but also lots of crossing. definitely one of the days in the year, as early summer, they exclusively work on that way rather then sending radio waves by Harp System into ionosphere. lets wish them luck to make the world a better place to safe it for some years and also destruct it much more as they imagine. I dont like chemtrails.
    therefore some reasons why pranayama is something individual actually, something with can be used for sacred reasons concerning and reconnecting the spiritual realms. difficult to experience as it normally need to whole way of learning it for many sober years. though it gives then a cleaner and better life. and mdma is always in the mind stream, so how to cleans it, this is a possible way for your private life. keep it private. thatīs basically how it works in those ways. over and out. out and away from this (sick human) general mind stream.
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    "It is generally accepted by the pill-popping population, that an individual should wait one month in between dose days to give your serotonin ample time to recover. A more certain answer can't be given, due to the reason above."


    People need to stop perpetuating the myth of serotonin depletion -- it is a myth. -- The real issue is downregulation of receptor activity (receptor binding affinity to MDMA), and SERT binding affinity is lowered).

    If you want to RESET your serotonin receptor sensitivity -- go on a strict diet deficient in tryptophan for a few weeks.

    Serotonin is continually synthesized by the body and brain. Look up rates of serotonin synthesis. Yes MDMA block tryptophan hydroxylase, but mot completely, and in 6 hours any blocking activity is only at 50% 6 more 25%, 6 more 12%

    If serotonin was depleted by MDMA -- you couldn't trip off LSD on day 2 of a festival after rolling on day 1.

    The FACT is that Tolerance testing as reported by SHulgin in PIHKAL for entry 109 (MDA) shows that after 6 consecutive days of 120-160mg MDMA TOTAL tolerance is reached


    Yet administration of MDA on day 7 resulted in normal effects of MDA ( MDA is an SNDRA and reuptake inhibitor like MDMA but a bit more trippy) -- if MDMA depleted serotonin, the MDA would not have been effective

    Oh and complete abstinence from all drugs for ONLY 6 days, completely reversed the developed tolerance.

    Furthermore, there is a small but significant number of people who can consume MDMA multiple times per week seemingly without end, and report NO LOSS OF MAGIC.
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    you mean the right dosage , so ? when one grain of MDMA @ 100mg , is in use by a person with 70kg weight , she should use half the grains in alternating several hours .

    And my question is whether it can be half the dose of MDMA that we have become stronger after it is stored and mixed with other elements ?
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    I really don't understand what you are saying. If you mean to ask if MDMA can get stronger by it having been mixed with other elements during storage, then no, it cannot
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    I used to love MDMA, now I'm just pretty much immune to it, I've done SO much over the years it's never like it used to be and never will be again. . . . Pill form, powder form, just doesn't work anymore 😕
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    Is it common for whoever makes the pill to just put a tiny bit of MDMA so that it tests positive for MDMA? Just something i heard. Not sure if it's true or not, but let me know what you think about it.
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    Im due to be taking Crystal mdma saturday coming i weight 57 kg 120 pounds and im 6 ft whats your recommended dose, by the way im a bit of a savage when it comes to drugs
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyThaKid View Post
    Im due to be taking Crystal mdma saturday coming i weight 57 kg 120 pounds and im 6 ft whats your recommended dose, by the way im a bit of a savage when it comes to drugs
    Are you a man or a woman? By the username I'd guess a man but I'll give you both doses. Man (first time): about 1,5mg/kg of reasonably pure MDMA should do it, so aim for around 100mg maybe little less. Woman (first time): about 1mg/kg should do it, so around 60mg. If it's not your first time you should have an idea of dose already. It's the same as with pills. Those doses are for very pure MDMA by the way. Have you tested your drugs?
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    I am about 120lbs, male and I always start with roughly 160 to 175mg to start and then take a booster of about 80-90mg an hour later. I keep plenty hydrated, like 2-3 20oz waters. The last time I rolled about a month ago I went through 3/4s to almost a full gram because I weighed before an after. I don't recommend but I was fine, I drank about 120 ounces plus of water and felt fine. I took a 180mg then a half hour later a 90 mg boostie, an hour later a full 180 mg then an hour later another 180, then a 70mg booster 30 mins later and finally about 150mg 30 minutes after the booster. I fully realize it wasn't safe now but it was amazing. I got home about an hour after my last dose, felt great and fell right asleep for 12 deep uninterrupted hours. Only to feel amazing and mildly rolled for another 5+ hours. If you're safe and on liquids and use it sparingly, like monthly or bimonthly you'll be perfect man.
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    Yes the crystal i get got tested infront of me and also i had 400mg in the end
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    I wish I found this site and thread before getting involved in ecstasy and not listenting to peers. I'm worried I damaged my brain by binging 3 days on ecstasy during edc and sleeping a few hours in the hot car in Las Vegas heat for two days. Coming down I thought of the movie bad boys 2 how Martin Lawrence was put in ice for accidently taking ex and there I am sleeping in a hot car coming down on ex. Sad me. I feel like I should've died but the damage is not yet done and my brain is slowly dying from the damage that has been done.
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    I have a quick question that I couldn't find an answer to. I am currently taking an SSRI daily and plan on taking MDMA this weekend. I have heard that you can't "roll" if you are taking an SSRI. So, should I stop taking the SSRI right away or just the day I will be taking MDMA? I know it takes days to weeks for most SSRI's to start working but don't know if it takes that amount of time to get out of the system and that is what I'm worried about.
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    Hi all, Apologies if this is a repeat of another post - I just couldn't find any recent threads...nothing more recent than 2010.

    So topic:If I have Molly that has been around for the last two years or so, store in a dry container, out of the light in a cool/room temp setting the whole time -- also tested with the dancesafe dot org kits, and it tested PURE MDMA.

    Opened the container today & the Molly didn't look the same - instead of the solid cloudy moon rocks, it looked dry and more powder - not completely powder, but just more ash like, like it had dried out and lost it's kind of rock like quality.

    I heard that MDMA's shelf life is remarkable especially when stored someplace dry and out of light.


    wondering if anyone else has had this experience? Hopefully the essence of the MDMA is still there, but no one wants New Year's Eve to turn into a shit show...

    Thanks to anyone who has any insight, and Happy New Year all!

    xo
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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorkny2015 View Post
    Hi all, Apologies if this is a repeat of another post - I just couldn't find any recent threads...nothing more recent than 2010.
    Opened the container today & the Molly didn't look the same - instead of the solid cloudy moon rocks, it looked dry and more powder - not completely powder, but just more ash like, like it had dried out and lost it's kind of rock like quality.
    It could have reacted with impurities over time.
    If you have a lot of it, you can purify it and recrystalize it with solvents such as acetone, isopropyl alcohol, diethyl ether. Naturally, you can expect some loss of weight after purification. Let me know what pure solvents you have access to. You do not want dirty solvents which will introduce additional impurities.
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    Hi everybody...
    I wanted to ask u a question regarding my latest roll sesion and one thing that happened and i have never experienced it before.So,i took one pill i didn't swallowed but i was melting it in my mouth for like 15 min,because it was extra fresh...Everything began as usual,and then in one moment i felt cold.After 10 seconds i felt extremly cold,i was shaking.And then,after like 5 seconds,i felt extremly extremly hot.I felt like my brain is going to frie,my legs were heavy.So i had to go out to cool my self down,get back after half an hour,feeling perfectly well.After that everything went as usual.What happened?I've never felt that way,it was so scary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerranger2 View Post
    Hi everybody...
    I wanted to ask u a question regarding my latest roll sesion and one thing that happened and i have never experienced it before.So,i took one pill i didn't swallowed but i was melting it in my mouth for like 15 min,because it was extra fresh...Everything began as usual,and then in one moment i felt cold.After 10 seconds i felt extremly cold,i was shaking.And then,after like 5 seconds,i felt extremly extremly hot.I felt like my brain is going to frie,my legs were heavy.So i had to go out to cool my self down,get back after half an hour,feeling perfectly well.After that everything went as usual.What happened?I've never felt that way,it was so scary...
    Could be that you took a bit too much and had an intense comeup. I sometimes get hot and cold flashes when I'm coming up along with heavy legs. Could also be the pill wasn't clean and something else caused it. It really is hard to say. Did you test your pills?
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    No,i dont think that i took too much,cause it was one pill,and i have rolled before.I was thinking,maybe I had so intense comeup because i melted it?My friend had same ones,but he just swallowed them and he was fine.But after that everything was ok,i took more and had great time...I'm just wondering why i had such intense come up...I didn't tested pills,actually,I never do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerranger2 View Post
    No,i dont think that i took too much,cause it was one pill,and i have rolled before.I was thinking,maybe I had so intense comeup because i melted it?My friend had same ones,but he just swallowed them and he was fine.But after that everything was ok,i took more and had great time...I'm just wondering why i had such intense come up...I didn't tested pills,actually,I never do.
    Yes if you let them melt in your mouth you will come up a bit faster and a bit more intense, which could have caused this. Exhaustion or malnutrition could also cause this. But could also be dirty pills. There are so many out there that it would be a very good idea to start testing everything you take. You can order a testkit online easily

    By the way, don't let pills melt in your mouth, MDMA is seriously bad for your teeth. It won't increase the effect by that much that it justifies the damage you do to your teeth. If you want a faster comeup, crush the pill and put the powder in a cigarette rolling paper. Twist the end shut and swallow that. Because the paper disintigrates immediatly in your stomach the crushed pill is instantly released which is the same as chewing your pill or letting it melt in your mouth, minus the teeth damage
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