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    Ok theres lots of ways to partially fix or at least hide this common problem.

    I always, always, always used hirudoid cream, it cleared bruises up by the next day and usually the mark was gone the next day or day after. With arms that havent been repeatedly abused by a needle you shouldnt really be getting noticeable marks, when I first started I pretty much never got tracks, it was only after I started shooting over the same spots that the marks and bruising got worse. But hirudoid cream is a must for any IV user IMO.

    Secondly you should be putting heat on the area after the shot, not ice. Once I put ice on a missed shot of speed and fuck it made it hurt sooo much more and made the whole thing worse. Heat dilates your capillaries and lets the dead blood(i.e bruise) dissolve and you should have next to no mark there the next morning. I used to use a heat pack on every shot even if I didnt miss.

    Thirdly, is this person mixing up your shots with new needles, spoons, water etc? Most people I know with HepC caught it from a spoon or something like that, so while I know you know your shit and probably know this already, its easy especially when your off your face to forget these things. HepC infected blood can last weeks, even a month or more outside the body. Luckily HIV only lasts a few minutes.

    Make sure you shower every day, pref twice as it washes away old skin and gives your body a chance to grow new skin. I found when I was a dirty junkie and wouldnt shower for 2 days in a row(or more, yes im extremely ashamed to admit this) my tracks would be worse, but if I showered every day or twice as I said then I pretty much didnt ever have tracks.

    Be very, very, very careful with this ROA. Everyone starts off thinking its a more efficient and better way to do their drugs and that they'll be able to keep it under control, but I honestly believe that within 6 months to a year less than 2% end up having it under control(I shot H once a week for a year and kept it under control then somehow I lost that control and it turned into at least every second day). Even if they dont shoot up every day like me(The time between my shots vary from a few times a week to once a month and im most certainly addicted to both the drugs and the needle) it will creep up on you. Everyone starts in your position my friend, all you can do is be as careful as you can, know your sources and while im no sure whether you should learn to IV yourself im also not sure whether its a smart idea to have this other guy hit you every time, I certainly wouldnt trust anyone else to get me except myself.

    Just be careful, we value our BL'ers here obviously and I wouldnt want anything to happen to any of you guys. Just be as safe as you can and if your already under the influence of something and your going to have a shot just think that little bit harder about what your doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakeperson View Post
    Hahaaaa thanks for the empathy bro :-D

    I've been exercising more of late, more cardio than previously and it seems to have made a big difference...first shot is nearly always a piece of piss to hit, second usually easy, but being that my drug of choice is meth, I guess the vasoconstriction has kicked in pretty hard after that and subsequent shots can result in a bit of searching. It's so frustrating when you can see them right there but no matter what angle you go in at THEY REMAIN ELUSIVE
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    http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/6...s-I-Want-Blood
    there is a lot of good information in this thread if your interested
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    Quote Originally Posted by CartoonHead View Post
    Hahaaaa thanks for the empathy bro :-D

    I've been exercising more of late, more cardio than previously and it seems to have made a big difference...first shot is nearly always a piece of piss to hit, second usually easy, but being that my drug of choice is meth, I guess the vasoconstriction has kicked in pretty hard after that and subsequent shots can result in a bit of searching. It's so frustrating when you can see them right there but no matter what angle you go in at THEY REMAIN ELUSIVE
    Yeah I have only been on the meth once in about a month (I almost wrote meth then) since about a month ago and that one time was for BDO, not really an excuse but I used it and cause of that I lost a bit of practise and fucked up. When I am having serious trouble I use a butterfly clip, they are far easier to hit with and it's easy to tell when it's in the vein and they aren't that much more painful.
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    I normally got pretty good veins but sometimes cant find the bastards so i just use a lacky band and move me arm around a bit and you find them everytime, i read somewhere that a tourniquet makes ya veins fatter so makes it easier, but dont hold me on that. also every time ya get a blood test the nurses tell ya to push down for a few mins after i found that actually works, between that and hirudroid cream my tracks are gone in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ketaman View Post
    Ok theres lots of ways to partially fix or at least hide this common problem.

    I always, always, always used hirudoid cream, it cleared bruises up by the next day and usually the mark was gone the next day or day after. With arms that havent been repeatedly abused by a needle you shouldnt really be getting noticeable marks, when I first started I pretty much never got tracks, it was only after I started shooting over the same spots that the marks and bruising got worse. But hirudoid cream is a must for any IV user IMO.

    Secondly you should be putting heat on the area after the shot, not ice. Once I put ice on a missed shot of speed and fuck it made it hurt sooo much more and made the whole thing worse. Heat dilates your capillaries and lets the dead blood(i.e bruise) dissolve and you should have next to no mark there the next morning. I used to use a heat pack on every shot even if I didnt miss.

    Thirdly, is this person mixing up your shots with new needles, spoons, water etc? Most people I know with HepC caught it from a spoon or something like that, so while I know you know your shit and probably know this already, its easy especially when your off your face to forget these things. HepC infected blood can last weeks, even a month or more outside the body. Luckily HIV only lasts a few minutes.

    Make sure you shower every day, pref twice as it washes away old skin and gives your body a chance to grow new skin. I found when I was a dirty junkie and wouldnt shower for 2 days in a row(or more, yes im extremely ashamed to admit this) my tracks would be worse, but if I showered every day or twice as I said then I pretty much didnt ever have tracks.

    Be very, very, very careful with this ROA. Everyone starts off thinking its a more efficient and better way to do their drugs and that they'll be able to keep it under control, but I honestly believe that within 6 months to a year less than 2% end up having it under control(I shot H once a week for a year and kept it under control then somehow I lost that control and it turned into at least every second day). Even if they dont shoot up every day like me(The time between my shots vary from a few times a week to once a month and im most certainly addicted to both the drugs and the needle) it will creep up on you. Everyone starts in your position my friend, all you can do is be as careful as you can, know your sources and while im no sure whether you should learn to IV yourself im also not sure whether its a smart idea to have this other guy hit you every time, I certainly wouldnt trust anyone else to get me except myself.

    Just be careful, we value our BL'ers here obviously and I wouldnt want anything to happen to any of you guys. Just be as safe as you can and if your already under the influence of something and your going to have a shot just think that little bit harder about what your doing.
    cheers for the info bro,somtimes i mix up my shots somtimes my mate does it for me.when we buy fit packs we buy 2-3 at a time so we dont have to reuse spoons on fits for that very reason.im a germaphobe when it comes to IV to the point where i start to get on my mates nerves about how clean i want it to be.the mark and lump are totally gone now n i havnt had a shot since that night and dont plan on shooting up anytime soon maybe if i get some smack in the next week or so bbut i cant see that happening.im gonna take your advise and get my mate to walk me through it next time we decide to shoot up.im a bit ify about learning to shoot up tho cus then i cn hit myself anytime i want and open myself up to needle addiction im in the process of tapering off opiates only wanna use once a week tops atm im using daily argggh n i just over 5-6 weeks of benzo WD's wish me luck *sighhh*
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    JS when you prep your own hits, have you ever accidentally pricked yourself? Maybe in the thumb or finger? Used to happen to me occasionally back when I was into using needles, especially when I was already high. So I thought, if it happens to me occasionally, surely it could happen to somebody else. Thats why I never let anyone else near a needle I was going to use. Just saying that even though you use clean spoons and brand new fits, there is always a chance of contamination if someone else has their hands on your pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius J. View Post
    JS when you prep your own hits, have you ever accidentally pricked yourself? Maybe in the thumb or finger? Used to happen to me occasionally back when I was into using needles, especially when I was already high. So I thought, if it happens to me occasionally, surely it could happen to somebody else. Thats why I never let anyone else near a needle I was going to use. Just saying that even though you use clean spoons and brand new fits, there is always a chance of contamination if someone else has their hands on your pick.
    i cant say that i ever have mate and the person who helps me shoot up is very careful of doing that,hes been around needles for a loong time and is overcautious when it comes to IV use he always shoots himself up last dosnt put too much presure on the needle when filtering ect ect as i said i have/had a phobia of needles so maybe thats why i've never pricked myself by mistake.when the caps off my eyes are opeeeenn!
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    vitamin E oil (or bio-oil; its like a mixture of vit. E and a bunch of other stuff) is always good to apply to prevent scarrings and it/they help alot with the whole healing process
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisspotnrock View Post
    vitamin E oil (or bio-oil; its like a mixture of vit. E and a bunch of other stuff) is always good to apply to prevent scarrings and it/they help alot with the whole healing process
    tea tree oil seemed to be really good the day after i started using it i noticed a dif in the marks on my arm.im cravin a shot of meth now cant wait til this sunday got a day party gonna get off tits
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    [QUOTE=junkie skumbag;11258493i have a phobia of needles[/QUOTE]

    My phobia of needles extends WAY further than it EVER crossing my mind about shooting street drugs in a non medical setting! There's no fucking way in hell I would put myself in a situation where some intoxicated individual is shooting street drugs into my arms.

    Each to their own ... I'm just saying that situation sounds pretty hairy ... Be safe bro ... Hep C, Hiv ... The list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ft-Sativa View Post
    My phobia of needles extends WAY further than it EVER crossing my mind about shooting street drugs in a non medical setting! There's no fucking way in hell I would put myself in a situation where some intoxicated individual is shooting street drugs into my arms.

    Each to their own ... I'm just saying that situation sounds pretty hairy ... Be safe bro ... Hep C, Hiv ... The list goes on.
    yeah as i said this was a one time thing we were both fucked up n when your in that state you dont really think clearly.surely you can understand where im comming from.the drugs i get arnt bought off the street if you get my drift
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    yeah as i said this was a one time thing we were both fucked up n when your in that state you dont really think clearly.
    This is precisely how blood-borne virii are transmitted amongst the IV community. Take care.

    Quote Originally Posted by junkie skumbag View Post
    surely you can understand where im comming from.the drugs i get arnt bought off the street if you get my drift
    Oh, I get it, if they say "it's straight off the plate" then it must be uncut.

    I would like suggest that you are already in denial about the extent of your addiction (and expect an aggressive drama in response). As others have mentioned, it is safer to inject yourself. Have fun!

    As for me, I swear I used to have a medial cubital on my left arm... not sure where it's gone? Maybe on a short holiday?
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    Bio-oil gets rid of scarring. My scars are barely noticeable coz i used this. And why IV MDMA? IMO its horrible when you use it this way. Just dump it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie101 View Post
    Bio-oil gets rid of scarring. My scars are barely noticeable coz i used this. And why IV MDMA? IMO its horrible when you use it this way. Just dump it!
    im not ment to promote IV use but i like a nice shot of mdma at the end of a big night the rush is to die for and the high is short lasting but strong.tea tree oil seemed to work very well to get rid of the bruising and marks within 3-4 days
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    Ok guys so I know this is going to sound crazy but after searching forum after forum trying to figure out how to get rid of my track I have finally found the perfect method even though it is tedious and annoying it works! My tracks were like scars from constantly hitting the same veins over and over. I was embarassed to go out with a short sleeve shirt and it has been in the 90s.
    You will need:
    Cotton pads
    Loofa
    Exfoliating scrub
    Honey
    Lemon juice
    Olive oil
    Vitamin E oil

    First take the honey and smooth a thin layer over all scarring and track marks. Leave this on for 20 minutes or more (the longer the better)
    When you want to remove the honey take the loofa and exfoliating scrub and scrub the area. Not too hard but you do want to exfoliate.
    Next take the lemon juice and saturate the cotton ball with it. Rub it over all tracks.
    Finally take the Olive oil, vitamin e and if you have a scar oil or cream I used bio oil which you can find at your local drug store and mixing all 3 saturate the cotton ball and rub it all over your tracks. Leave this on until the next time you complete this process.

    Complete this 2-5 times a day. I know it sounds crazy but it works. You will pretty much begin seeing a difference instantly. I hope this helps.
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    herodiod cream works great.i dono if im spelling it right but its made to get rid of bruising n stuff
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    Hey there. This sounds good and I'm gonna try it. Have you noticed if it really works well to get rid of the dark skin color in the bend of your elbow? I have the little lumps u der the skin but it's the dark bruised colors that draw the attention. Thanks!
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    How to avoid track marks 101.

    Use perfect technique and procedure with proper sterility while using the smallest gauge which is practical to your situation. After completing injection, wash under warm water for a minute or two then dry.arr and apply hirudioid cream and cover entry point by taping cotton ball in place or alternatively a bandaid.

    Apply hirudiod cream 2-3times a day.

    Note : take off cottonball or bandaid after no more than 2-3 hrs imo to then leave the area to dry out and heal uninhibited while the cream is applied.

    Other vit E creams, such as aloe veta based products are gret for preventing scarring while using. Vit D creams are good to but m mind is running hazy on this now.

    So imma leave it there.
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    This thread is just not right with all the info out there... dont want track marks...AT WORST get someone who knows what they are doing, or fuck me DONT INJECT..... I might start a thread asking how to avoid various diseases including cancer because I refuse to stop smoking...? Any ideas fellow smokers out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacejunk View Post
    dude. from all you've told us, i really get the impression you shouldn't be IVing.
    I hate to be a buzz kill bro, but you and I are very much alike with using drugs, over the years I have gotten to know your pattern of drug use I think injecting is a terrible decision. I could go on but I don't want to sound preachy just don't wanna see you go down like some of my school mates.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8ft-Sativa View Post
    My phobia of needles extends WAY further than it EVER crossing my mind about shooting street drugs in a non medical setting! There's no fucking way in hell I would put myself in a situation where some intoxicated individual is shooting street drugs into my arms.

    Each to their own ... I'm just saying that situation sounds pretty hairy ... Be safe bro ... Hep C, Hiv ... The list goes on.
    Right there with ya, going for a blood test from a trained professional makes me so nervous and anxious that they are going to stick a needle in me, and I will never forget the words one of my addict mate said in these words "If YOU ARE A REAL DRUGGY, once you inject you can never go back. Stay away"
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    Quote Originally Posted by puffpuffpass View Post
    I hate to be a buzz kill bro, but you and I are very much alike with using drugs, over the years I have gotten to know your pattern of drug use I think injecting is a terrible decision. I could go on but I don't want to sound preachy just don't wanna see you go down like some of my school
    Buzz kill? Was this directed at me?
    If so, i guess you missed the bit where I didn't log on to the site for months in order to get clean then, huh?
    Preaching about use, DOAs, ROAs or anything of the like is kinda contrary to the point of this site.

    Regardless, the OP comes across as an extremely irresponsible, reckless individual, and one of the people who responded to him is no longer with us (ie he died). Harm minimisation messages aren't able to save everyone, which is tragic but the reality of the situation.
    I'd wager you know less about me or what i get up to than you think, but that's irrelevant. Unlike some I don't come here to boast about my exploits, my connections, or even my recovery.

    Bluelight exists to share knowledge on safer practices, including IV.
    It is Intravenous drug users that are some of the most at risk, marginalised people in the community (BL or wider community). All the major points have been covered though - I hope JS has ceased this pattern of behaviour.
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    Hope he listnes.. last thing we need is another ADD casualty.... Preventalble... I have too follwed the patteren of the OP from his first days on PR... Man you're doing it wrong..
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    Hemeroid Cream... Stop injecting dude before you do some real damage
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    this isnt the dont inject thread people please stop telling me how to run my life i'll do what i wanna do and do it to its safest.since i made this thread i have been going to needle exchange and getting info off them and clean fits and wheel filters.cuz now days on BLto be able to get the tinyest bit of correct info you have to wade through 10000 comments from people who think they can tell u how u run your life!ill do what im gonna do n if it dosnt concern you then piss off.......i've changed up my TEK when it comes to using needles to almost over the top sterile so fucking chill out jesus tap dancing crist!
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