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    I find benzos the most insidious substances in the drug world.

    You get a couple xan bars and vallies here and there, and you don't notice, but you look back and realise how over the top you've been going. You might even be legitimately be addicted and not know it.

    Benzos have a great place when you really need sleep or suffer sever panic attacks - otherwise introducing them as a general habit of taking them is extremely dangerous.

    I had 5 bars yesterday - I told myself i'd only use about half a bar yesterday to celebrate getting them. Ended up eating the whole bar. Said oh well, I'll just keep it to once a week.

    Here i am having consumed another whole bar over the course of the day.

    Sheeh...
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    I find benzos the most insidious substances in the drug world.
    Agreed. They are the pringles of the drug world. The first one has the most noticeable subjective effect, and then after that you can kind of sink into a pool of apathy where it's like you're taking more to try to feel something, anything. Benzos suck as recreational drugs.

    If you're extremely anxious and you take a benzo, then the relief - the contrast - can be like euphoria. But that's about it, IMO. And the worst thing about it is that taking more doesn't seem to be doing anything much, but it most certainly is doing something... you'll only notice how much it's done when it wears off and you get the rebound effects.

    Shocking, shocking drugs to try and play with.
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    ^Very well put Halif
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    Tried some 1mg etizolam recently, they really perk me up and relax my mind a lot. They are very easy to indulge in, went from 2 a day to 4-5 a day in 3 days, please be warned people, etizolam is a great benzo substitute but from the general consensus from regula r etizolam users before you know it you've eaten a massive amount and will have very little memory of what happened
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    In the paSt 4 days I've taken 45, 20, 20, 25mg of Diaz. Prior to that I hadn't taken any in weeks. I don't have any intention of taking any for at least a week, and if I do, I don't plan on hitting it so hard.

    Can I expect any with withdrawl or negative symptoms in the coming Days?
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    You should be fine using for a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindseye888 View Post
    Tried some 1mg etizolam recently, they really perk me up and relax my mind a lot. They are very easy to indulge in, went from 2 a day to 4-5 a day in 3 days, please be warned people, etizolam is a great benzo substitute but from the general consensus from regula r etizolam users before you know it you've eaten a massive amount and will have very little memory of what happened
    Can you even get etizolam in Australia? Under what brand name? I was doing a bit of research into effects for harm reduction purposes but can't find reference to it on Australian consumer information sites like MyDr...

    Note this is not a sourcing request
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    its strange, I was prescribed xanax for flight anxiety. If I take some, it takes about 2mg to feel anything, but the next day i feel sickall day. Such a shit drug. I spoke to my doctore, said I think vzlium is a safer drug, but she instisted xanax was safer. I have the feeling she didnt know what she was talking about. Xhat about ambien... is this a safer drug?
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    Managed to kill any benzo dependency from etizolam (this time) - just kept diluting it, but not really keeping track of how diluted it was. Wouldn't recommend it as it's not a good idea to have drugs of unknown potency around - but it worked awesome for me. I still have the bottle but it must be at homoeopathic amounts by now - purely placebo/security blanket dosing now. Last dose was 5 days ago and I feel good.

    Helped having it in PG (which tastes awful to me) and only having a syringe that can do 1ml max.

    Having a benzo break for the foreseeable future. Will remember a simple process for next time though - just asking myself 'am I calm?' and breathing slowly for maybe ten seconds to assess, not much help to people with whopping dependencies but it seemed to help me overdoing it. So easy to take way more than you need when you're sitting on a supply and end up killing the practicality of using it as an effective anti-anxiety med.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayjay View Post
    Can you even get etizolam in Australia? Under what brand name? I was doing a bit of research into effects for harm reduction purposes but can't find reference to it on Australian consumer information sites like MyDr...

    Note this is not a sourcing request
    Nah, I don't think etizolam are prescribed here, the ones I had were rc type tiny pills with a blue coating and white inside. I was told they were pressed with 1-1.1mg etizolam, they seemed pretty good quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opi8 View Post
    You should be fine using for a week.
    Thanks opi.
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    In my possession I have liquid diazepam 10mg in 2ml vials ready for I.V or I.M injection...

    I have experience with benzodiazepines and I.V use of amphetamines..

    But I have never shot a downer dose anyone have experience with injectable diazepam that can provide me with a good starting recreational dose?? And what to expect in terms dangers, is there a rush, half life, etc thanks y'all
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    [QUOTE=trenagade;12159834]
    liquid diazepam 10mg in 2ml vials ready for I.V or I.M injection...

    Anyone out there??
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    A good view is that oral dosage is as good as iv or im.

    apart from a quicker on-set(subjective), it is really nothing else. why not just eat them?

    oral is actually the best roa with nearly all benzos
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzz101 View Post
    A good view is that oral dosage is as good as iv or im.

    apart from a quicker on-set(subjective), it is really nothing else. why not just eat them?

    oral is actually the best roa with nearly all benzos

    Yea I guess good view but 10mg orally of diazepam is pretty weak in my experience and these ampoules are also pretty rare for me not interested in I.M injection because it's probably the slowest way to absorb it so I.V seems to be the way to go
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    Benzo tolerance is fucking strange. If im happy/anxiety free I dont feel anything. But when anxious or in opiate WD its a lifesaver.

    Ive just had about 4mg Alpraz and 50mg of Diaz and its helping with the feelings caused by all the shit in my life atm, but I should be drooling on the floor! Different doses affect me so differently. Etizolam and Clonazepam are my favourites. Rivotril is fucking awesome!

    Maybe after my methadone ill feel it more, but since the crackdown on xanax its made it harder to aquire for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzz101 View Post

    the 6 days mephedrone usage the week before every night didn't help. which increased etiz usage.. i don't think it took Etizolam every night though.
    I've always considered that to be one of the most perilous things about benzos - they can indirectly facilitate other drug use. It's a bit of a catch 22. You have less qualms about binging on drugs (especially stims) because you can load up on benzos at the end, and in turn your benzo use increases because you are using more stims.

    I hope that made sense - my ADD meds are wearing off so I'm a little bit scattery. I started back on the meds today after a fair while off but have made a conscious decision not to take anything to relax at the end of the day. That way I'll be forced not to go overboard with my meds.

    Peace
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    Hi Guys today I got a new 2mg alprazolam, it looks almost exactly like the old xanax bottle in size color etc and the tablets are exactly the same size taste etc and marked with
    " U 94" I don't have access to my original Xanax right at the moment because they are stashed away but I believe they were U94? or were they UP94?
    They are made by Ascent Phramacy and called Ralozam. Do you think these could be left over Pfizer stock, they look identical?
    Ralozam is Xanax - I compared them in size, markings and taste. The bottle is the same colours also. I think Pfizer flogged off leftover stock to Ascent
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ketaman View Post
    Maybe after my methadone ill feel it more, but since the crackdown on xanax its made it harder to aquire for sure.
    Im aware it's now S8 but had no idea LE were cracking down on it as well.
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    on the scheduling, i think its made it easier for central sydney. maybe its brought in an influx from sources other than doctors.

    Q: how do daily users go about with dosing xanax? do you eat it or put it under the tongue? do you spread the doses through the day or save it for night/sleep?

    im usually eating it if ive got a fairly empty stomach, otherwise i put it under the tongue. i feel like eating it is the best way but if ive eaten some food ill be worried the xans wont hit as hard.
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    Scheduling making it easier? Unless they're fakes, how would that happen?

    I always eat them when I have them, I've never tried under the tongue administration because they work so quickly anyway.
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    Xanax tastes way too rank to put it under the tongue. I hate the taste just swallowing it regularly.
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    If ya put it under the tongue, try not move your tongue around so the chemicals don't get all over your mouth. Just try keep your tongue flat and still for a minute or two, you won't taste a thing
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    Well, after being ridiculed by my doctor even though I wasn't asking for a script and just wanted a genuine taper plan, I've started on my own. Switched from oxazepam and alprazolam (which wasn't any every day thing but was atleast 2mg a weekend) to diazepam completely. I figured out after racking my brain for hours (short term memory loss on benzos is ten times worse than when I used to smoke buds everyday) I figured out I was eating up to 4x30mg oxazepam a day. One as soon as I'd wake up before work, then one at around 12pm, then one when I got home at 5pm then one before bed at around 11pm. I never once got high from oxazepam although it really helped with anxiety. I was taking small amounts of diazepam throughout the just over 3 month period but never more than 10mg at a time and that was only when I had run out of oxaz.

    All I can say is fuck its hard making the switch. I thought that diazepam were stronger and would make the switch from oxaz easy. Not at all, i'm currently down to 20mg of diaz a day and will be dropping down to 15 on monday but i cannot stop sweating profusely and I feel almost psychotic a lot of the time. It is definitely bearable because i've been able to work/socialise etc but dear god I wish someone would have told me that oxazepam is basically a weaker version of alprazolam. Its just as short lasting as alprazolam so I think the regular re-dosing has made it hard to switch to the general 10mg of diaz in the morning, 10mg at around 5pm after finishing work. Only side-effect I haven't noticed is finding it hard to sleep. I missed a full day of diaz dosing due to forgetting to take them with me on a 1 day trip and felt no side effects apart from slight panic that the fact that I'd missed my dose could mean severe withdrawals, but I slept fine, did sweat a fair bit more than I'm used to but that was about it.

    I've only been a daily user since 3/12/13 and I have been addicted to nearly everything under the sun (bar opiates) and I think I finally realise that i've only ever been mentally addicted. Physical addiction is a whole different thing and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemies. Fuck benzos
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