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    I'd say that smoking and shooting have similar durations, honestly, it all has to do with how much is dosed at once. Say for instance you load a . into the pipe, puff it over the course of an hour or two. Thats what, 3-10 big hits depending on quality. So in a way your CNS is adjusting to it in the short term, peaks and valleys so to speak. With IV, you take that . all at once, the bolus dose is what does you in, thats why this stuff is so horrid, literally the "high" is in fact a highly-psychosomatic aftereffect of brain and body trauma. Not to say it doesnt feel good at first but, with time if you keep doing it will do your head in. When I started I could take these huge .2-.3 shots of pure, rushing my balls off etc etc and a few days after would have some sleep and the next morning be right as rain (other than hungry as ****). But staying with that cycle of 2-3 days on 2-3 days off, over a couple of years, at the beginning it starts fucking up your body but you get used to that, kinda a self-preservation mechanism kicks in (other than during the time when you say fuck it and have another bolus dose), but the psychological effects, theyre cumulative. And not only that but once it starts making you go bonkers you might not even realize it for years (some never do, the brain trauma makes it feel better and better to chase that rush as life becomes shite when youre not rushing), it's only through the realization that one is able to go back to a better life, one where youre not making everyone around you unhappy, one where youre not killing yourself slowly, that one is able to make the decision to quit. And even then its rough, went through another 2 year of 10 days clean 2-3 days use, and then another couple years of relapsing every few months("I can handle it now") - the truth is, once your CNS has gotten trained to respond in a certain manner to it, those pathways are always going to be there - the drug itself induces neuroplasticity but in the worst way. Currently the longest I've been able to make it is about 3 months, and also I've gotten off suboxone. Now usually when I use I sniff small lines or smoke a bit off foil and throw the rest away and I hate myself for it. Best of luck to you all and remember, keep using it and literal hell on Earth awaits. Might sound like some kind of D.A.R.E fluffed up public service announcement but no, it really is that bad. Best of luck to you all, Love and light.
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    Yeah I hope that trauma you speak of isn't permanent.

    Why are the funnest drugs the worst for you...?
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    Nah, it's not permanent. The neuroplasticity works both for and against you, depending on what you allow it to do. Just remember you're in control, even if that means under control of putting yourself under the lash of coming down. Everything that you may think is working against you can be turned around to work for you.
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    ^ well put. Bravo.

    Our saying among circles were: 'it's all good, so long as you think it's all good'.

    In other words, it comes down to your own personal will and strength, to haul your ass 180 degrees the other way and run, while you believe that your in control of your very own peace of mind. 'Walk on', wise words Bruce Lee economically constructed.

    In times of adversity, it's vital to strive for redemption and constant growth/analysis of our shortfalls.

    Therefore, devising an action plan for future similar circumstances, is the arsenal for those hardheaded foot soldiers, who thrive in trying times .

    Minimising the opportunity cost of each stimulant-induced escapade is key to preventing overwhelming regret, or physical ravaging of the cardiovascular, and hormonal systems.

    This results in a well-tuned, and 'oiled' specimen. You'll have staying power and won't burnout often, if ever. You WILL actually look your age, have hydrated skin, have the ability to intigrate into society as a chamelion, skilled in hiding use and disclosing to the right people.

    It's all a tightrope ain't it. Tough, but in the realms of possibility.
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    It takes around 2 years to recover from significant trauma, such as drug addiction. 2 years is a long struggle, fighting nail and tooth. It will leave it's mark on you all.
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    And what constitutes significant trauma? Not eating, sleeping, hydrating, working, doing anything, while using meth? Cause that right there will undoubtedly fuck you up pretty darn quick..

    What blurs the lines for me, is what if the subject actually was providing nutrient intake and proper circadian rhythms to their organs. The subject was doing both cardio and resistance training, a bit of yoga, meditation.

    How long, or not long, would recovery be? i think marginally smaller.
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    Re-dosing is what makes meth fun, It enhances the drug 1000 fold into a psychedelic drug, You become so horny and begin to have the wildest insights into the world around you, If your looking for a interesting drug to test your minds limits go with meth
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    If your looking for a interesting drug to test your minds limits go with meth
    Lol
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    Re-dosing is what makes meth fun, It enhances the drug 1000 fold into a psychedelic drug, You become so horny and begin to have the wildest insights into the world around you, If your looking for a interesting drug to test your minds limits go with meth
    Please be careful okay ��
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    What is more common in your region : Meth or Amph (medical or street level) ?
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    Street level meth is easiest to procure, literally all it takes is walking around for 20min and asking a random homeless person while not looking like a cop, most of them are on it and have a number for it, unless they are already fucking nuts and then it seems like it sends them to the hospital (at one point I would hang with people like that, like in the park and whatnot)

    Amphetamine salts is the most common pharmaceutical speed, period, and easiest to procure, its basically a generic version of Adderall IR, made in a once-proprietary combination for maximum absorption. The doctors here, basically any doctor depending on your insurance, will give these out like CANDY unless you have a logged history of substance abuse and even thne they still give them out for work, etc... all it takes is a talk with a dr and a 15-45min kinda questionairre thing.

    amphetamine aspartate monohydrate 25% – stimulant
    (12.5% levo; 12.5% dextro)
    amphetamine sulfate 25% – stimulant
    (12.5% levo; 12.5% dextro)
    dextroamphetamine saccharate 25% – stimulant
    (0% levo; 25% dextro)
    dextroamphetamine sulfate 25% – stimulant
    (0% levo; 25% dextro)
    There's also medical desoxyn tabs 5mg/10/15(?) but I have never seen them. Very rare, and most or all people prescribed them are prescribed for conditions where no other medicine including Adderall worked for them, and genuinely need them.

    And my favorite ones - Dexedrine (not the spansules but the tablets, altho the spansules are good too)
    Vyvanse - comes as 40-70mg lys-dexamphetamine (basically a slow release form of dexedrine - I like these too, for work especially and I used to be prescribed them but this was 10 years ago when i was in our version of secondary school(is that what its called ? I mean High School, as its known in the USA)

    all the best
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