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    Vaping vs combutsion
    I just ordered my first vape its an atmos jumper. I need to start being more careful about smell I can't just smoke bowls or joints in the house my wife gets sick from the smell. I've smoked disposable vape pens and distillate hash pens. I don't seem to get as high from the vape.

    How much difference is the high between vaping and smoking flower? With the vape pens there is very little paranoia and anxiety which is nice. When I smoke its still like a rollercoaster. Maybe vaping will be a good change.

    I also read you can turn the bud that has been vaped into edibles anyone try that?
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    I smoked weed literally once, ever. I'd only ever do it again if I was desperate. I can feel my lungs screaming at me to stop inhaling smoke when I smoke anything, and I'm not one to ignore my body. Vaporizers aren't ideal but I don't want the length, time to effects, and ease of ODing with edibles so vaporizing is basically my only good option most of the time.


    AVB is easy to turn into edibles since all you need to do is extract the cannabinoids, not decarb. Tons of recipes, though if you tend to use the shit out of your weed until there's no vapor left you're going to have weak edibles.
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    Vaping flowers will give more or less the same effect as smoking flowers. I would be surprised if you notice any difference with respect to paranoia or anxiety.
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    I prefer vaping. if you buy a good unit with a temp guage or even a volcano, it is great. When you smoke, you get the extra stuff that inflames your lungs, stomach, etc. Don't get me wrong, a bubbler, a sherlock or even pedestrian throw away is great, but the vape does less damage.

    In my experience, I would vape, then toke a bud and get really baked. Good times.
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    Vaping all the way! Better taste, better high, better health!
    And! You can extract a lot from the browned weed you are left after vaping, using frozen ethanol technique.

    I wish there would be better quality portable dry heat vape devices!
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    I would like one of those convection rigs. Suppose to be better.
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    I've been using the atmos jumper for the last few days. I feel like I can smoke out of it all day and not get as high as I would off of a few good pulls from a pipe or joint. Joints fuck me up more then anything.

    It's kind of nice not getting as stoned though. When I really I pace around get paranoid self conscious etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed King View Post
    I would like one of those convection rigs. Suppose to be better.
    I have a 100% convection (extremely rare, even most "convection" vapes are hybrids) vaporizer from Boundless. It's really nice in that it's super consistent day to day. Battery life is complete fucking aids though, I'm a real lightweight I could never imagine using this if I was like one of my friends who goes through a quarter or more a week. I'm more like a gram max a week. But I do love my vaporizer, I can take it anywhere, on a hike or whatever and not have to worry about the wind or rain blowing out matches or lighters or any of that shit. Obviously you're battery limited in those situations but if I'm very careful I can get super baked 2-3 times easily off a battery charge (again, super lightweight).

    Do I think it's objectively better than my cheap conduction vaporizer was? Not necessarily. It's definitely a personal preference about vaporizer and vapor characteristics.

    Quote Originally Posted by sustanon21 View Post
    I've been using the atmos jumper for the last few days. I feel like I can smoke out of it all day and not get as high as I would off of a few good pulls from a pipe or joint. Joints fuck me up more then anything.

    It's kind of nice not getting as stoned though. When I really I pace around get paranoid self conscious etc.
    Hold it in until you feel like you're going to pass out, seriously. I know 90% of stoners will fight to the death to defend their position that holding in smoke or vapor for longer than 5 seconds or so doesn't get you noticeably higher, but anecdotally I completely and utterly disagree. If I hold in my vapor for 3-5 seconds it can take me 5-8 hits of 25% THC weed to get high. If I hold it in for 20 seconds, 18% THC weed will get me absolutely fucked on 2 hits, and quite high after even just one.
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    Vaping flower gives you a more focused high imo, and it smells much less than a bong or a joint. I've tried battery-powered vapes like Flowermate and Pax but nothing beats my Vapcap. It's a cheap butane-powered vape that looks like a one-hitter, it gets me high as a kite but it's a different high than a bong, much better if you're looking for something else than a couch lock. However using butane means it's not as stealthy as a battery vape, torches can be noisy, but I found Flowermate and Pax underwhelming after using a vapcap.
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    is it possible to buy a cartidge to vape flower with a brass knuckles battery or do i need a different model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleEye View Post
    Vaping flower gives you a more focused high imo, and it smells much less than a bong or a joint. I've tried battery-powered vapes like Flowermate and Pax but nothing beats my Vapcap. It's a cheap butane-powered vape that looks like a one-hitter, it gets me high as a kite but it's a different high than a bong, much better if you're looking for something else than a couch lock. However using butane means it's not as stealthy as a battery vape, torches can be noisy, but I found Flowermate and Pax underwhelming after using a vapcap.
    Dude this looks like a WAY better take on the vaporgenie concept, though I dont really know of any other butane vapes of the top of my head.
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    I've had several vaporizers going back to 2009. Most recently I purchased an Arizer Solo ][ back in December, 2017 because Dr asked me to at least try vaporizing again. The damn thing is absolute shit; it takes me forever to get high w/using it; and it definitely does not conserve on weed. I haven't used it since March and I feel like smashing the crappy thing on the pavement.

    Vape pens w/oil yes - vaping flower, no, not for Tom. So I'm gonna save this thing, receipt and all, and give it to the first person in line next to me when the recreational stores open up on October 17.


    For some reason even the thought of vaping flower leaves me cold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FuckinAcidMan View Post
    Dude this looks like a WAY better take on the vaporgenie concept, though I dont really know of any other butane vapes of the top of my head.
    Being a VaporGenie fan i'd like that statement to be fully developped. Personally i consider the manufacturer would be well advised to implement their forgotten Fig. 11/12 item from the US patent and assume a pressing need to evolve at last: as it is the VG pipes design severely limits access as a function of operator skills and lungs capacity, to say the least. Which doesn't mean the DynaVap VapCap doesn't come with major limitations of its own in terms of "1-Hitter" applications. Though i suppose the glass unit does a more appropriate job matching its required energy supply to cannabic workload... Still, lets just mention skin burns from wasted heat, for example. So, maybe kitchen torches and similar would simply happen to be a tad oversize considering the real final goal in a rational scenario.



    If the OP is after substitution for his cigarette habit then it sure makes more sense to go with the VG strategy, provided some adjustements can be performed.

    1st things first think about how the cigarette works: fire consumes nearly half of relatively loose vegetal fibers hermetically contained (temporarily...) inside a paper tube that's also burned into ashes in the process of generating sufficient heat to vaporize the other half, while inhalation implies self-poisoning by mixing the noble volatile molecules with toxic combustion fumes. Just replace that vegetal fiber with Silicon Carbide (SiC) to get rid of the self-vilification agent(s) and yet retain a consumption method where extra-hot "Potentializing" gases (H2O & CO2) are equally present in the stream. Using an Hybrid Core layout i get the "Shortest Path of Least Transformation" for a fraction of what it costs to blow balloons, without making the pipe operation as obvious as when torching excessive amounts of metal with a kitchen torch or similar. It's a pipe, the only difference is that it cools off right after the toking and hence i "light up" more than once. No scorched fingers, all it takes is a jetable Bic butane lighter in "emergency" situations.

    Enjoy those promises and more by taking my challenge to replicate and peer-review if you dare:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egzoset View Post
    Please refer to my old dedicated thread for context (click here).

    The rest until today:


    What it does, to make things any clearer (if that's possible on such guru-driven forums!), is to replace some aerial/foamy vegetal structure with ever-lasting SiC which is never altered by fire. In a cigarette this vegetal foam gets consumed to support/generate a "Heat Charge", in my "Plan-B" the SiC/Metal sandwhich temporarily carries a Heat Charge at least as potent but without the health-hazard and other nuisance(s). Both scenarios involve a foamy structure supporting the Heat Charge until it quickly moves into some substrate containing noble molecules. So, no big deal: experience it now, there's always time to talk later...



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