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    Canada - 12-step troublemaker: One nurse's fight for choice in addiction treatment 
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    12-step troublemaker: One nurse's fight for choice in addiction treatment
    Bethany Lindsay
    September 8th, 2018

    There's a saying in Alcoholics Anonymous: "It works if you work it." But it did not work for Byron Wood.

    Wood is an atheist, and found it impossible to put his life into the hands of a higher power, as the 12 steps require. He's also trained as a nurse, and knew the scientific evidence in support of AA is far from conclusive.


    When Wood stopped going to meetings, he lost his job, as well as his registration as a nurse.

    He'd offered to attend meetings with secular support groups, see a counsellor and undergo regular blood testing, but that alternative plan was rejected by his doctor, according to emails provided to CBC.

    Wood also asked to be referred to a new doctor who could recommend secular alternatives to AA, but his union informed him that it only uses addictions specialists who follow the 12-step model, the emails show.
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    So much for using evidenced based treatment to help those working in the Canadian medical field.
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    Twelve step is a crock of shit. I went to meetings off and on for four years and everyone just spews the same palaver as everyone else in the room just using different words. Multiply that by four years and I'm pretty sure I've heard every concept that has ever been said in AA ever. For the people it works for, great. But I hate it when people act as if it's the end all of addiction treatment and if it doesn't work for you, there's something wrong with you because it should work for everyone. I tend to have little patience anyway with people who talk too much and people in AA LOOOVE to talk. I find meetings boring, and maybe some folks would rather not spend their time around a bunch of other dysfunctionally co-dependent current or former addicts. Oh, and I LOVE that tired old line about AA not being a religious organization. Bullshit it isn't. If a therapist told me to pray, I'd call them a quack and walk out. In fact, I did that at one treatment center where I was considering going to IOP when they told me AA/NA is "evidence based." Where's the evidence? AA/NA say they don't keep statistics because it would compromise anonymity, but I think they don't keep stats to keep the world from learning just what a dismal failure they actually are. I was pretty lucky I didn't get sent to mandatory AA/NA meetings after my DUI because I would be one of those people suing. Seven US Federal District courts, in addition to the Tennessee and New York Supreme Courts have ruled that government imposed meeting attendance violates Establishment Clause protections.
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