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    My First Metocin Encounter


    Substance: 4-HO-MET Fumarate 98%, Canadian Vendor
    Dose: 3 capsules, 4-5mg each (total 12-15mg) - measured on Gemini20 scale, three times. I Probably took 13mg total.
    Body Weight: 220 lbs
    Experience Year: 2018, Oct 3
    Age at time: 44
    Gender: Male


    Previous psychedelics, in order of experience tried: LSD, Psilocybe (Baeocystis, Cubensis, Cyanesens), Morning Glory, Cannabis, HBWR, 1P-LSD, 5-MeO-MiPT. First experience for me was at age 14, when my cousin gave me 2 hits of "white insanity." I was not wanting to participate, but not wanting to insult the others, so I just spat the blotters out as soon as no one was looking. Now I know the truth!


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    I don't know why, but I have done a prelim test by just licking a tiny amount from a tapped clean knife. That was yesterday; it was incredibly bitter and foul tasting, even for a sub-milligram amount.


    T 6:40pm - I ate all three capsules I had just weighed out. I was intending on staggering the ingestion, hence three caps, but after reading Shulgin's account of 20mg, I am emboldened (also have taken LSD so many times, I've lost count).


    T 6:51pm - Feeling that cold nose setting in. I always get this with mushrooms or LSD, LSA, etc. Is this a tryptamine-typical symptom for others as well? Judging from this effect alone, I feel I may be in for a bit of a trip.


    T 7:00pm - No early alerts, other than a bit of salivation and that cold nose continuing. A tiny bit of gas, but that may have been the roti! Starting to wonder about dosage and the possibility that I'm only ingesting the low end of my range estimation, based on the non-accuracy of these scales. I'm thinking that mixing this down with some water and dosing with a dropper would be far more accurate. Might have to try that in a couple days.


    T 7:22pm - Still not much, but reading text on Bluelight, words are waving just the tiniest bit. Feels so clean and clear, like I'm on nothing. But colours are also slightly brighter. Going to take a dab and see what happens . . .

    T 7:32pm - Immediately as I draw in a dab hoot, I'm smacked by a more intense body feeling than cannabis alone provides. Also colours are very bright now, and I'm getting minor tracers. Feeling a bit of waviness in my legs, like the floor is a gym mat.

    T 8:40pm - This is not far from mushrooms, but I'm finding myself totally sober for a few minutes, then I take on a task only to find myself drifting back into some mesmerizing aspect of an object's surface or texture and/or just get lost in my thoughts. Taking another dab and I'm back up again. Cannabis extracts feel crazy on Metocin, such a sudden rush. I don't feel confused at all, just a bit like I should go for a walk. Went out into the dark of my backyard and was pleased to see what looked like fractals of CEV, but my eyes were open. It's pitch black outside and not at all scary, even though I live next to a forest with bears and cougars (who visit from time to time!). In fact, that is the difference from mushrooms: I'm not panicky at all, like I can get on shrooms if I'm in the wrong set/setting.

    T 9:19pm - This can't be, but I'm feeling almost normal, at least mentally, and visually. Body still feels a bit relaxed now and spongy, but no more visuals. I feel I must be on the way down, unless the wavelengths are getting longer.

    T 9:27pm - Nope, the wavelengths are just longer. I just got off my drum kit and feel a huge grin on my face. I remember what it was like to be twenty-something and playing drums on acid! This is nuts. Very in sync with my metronome. Will have to try this again with more of a focus on drumming. Small dose probably allows this, higher doses might cause unsteady tempo, etc.

    T 10:35pm - Another dab and I bounce right back up to near peaking. It's like cannabis extends and intensifies the effects. Laughing is pretty easy at this point, we're watching youtube and howling at everything. Getting that sore face, from smiling too much!

    T ~12:00am - Back to baseline, and sleep is easy. I could have gone to sleep earlier, if I hadn't had another toke.

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    I will certainly be trying this again, as it was the easiest trip I have ever had. It was a bit lack-lustre in the visual department, but that is probably due to my smallish does. I'm sure that 16-20mg would get pretty interesting. I did notice an absence of confusion, or any kind of trippy narrative, which I missed somewhat. But for a first-time tripper, this stuff is perfectly suited.

    Music was a bit stereo-enhanced and I thought I was hearing some things differently in very familiar music. Like missing instruments that were never there before. They were always there, of course, just so perfectly mixed in with the other elements so as to be inseparable. But somehow, the Metocin allowed a separation and parsing of every sound I heard.

    I am writing the reflection the next morning and find my mood to be excellent, with the slightest of headaches (but I have had a cold these past few days, so that's probably it). Sleep was very easy, and as I said, could have happened much sooner, but the Cannabis shatter dabs kept things rolling nicely for what turned out to be very enjoyable and very manageable. It's true what others have reported about Metocin's gentleness, and for beginners this is great; but it does leave the more experienced tripper a bit wanting in the actual "trip" department. Again, more trials needed as I titrate my dosage up.

    I did find myself wondering over and over again as to my exact dosage, and wish I had a better scale. This makes me want to mix the rest and do the volumetric thing from now on. Caps are convenient, but accuracy is nice for really researching and being able to expand dosages.

    Will try in a couple weeks, after my upcoming ETH-LAD trip!
    Peace


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    Hey, thanks for sharing! Yeah, 4-HO-MET is a really nice substance. Your dose was indeed pretty small, it does get a lot more visual, quite spectacularly so.

    I'm moving this to Trip Reports, as that's what it is. I also edited your post just to insert some tags that are for use in our upcoming searchable database.
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    Thanks, ShadowMeister! From your experience, what's your preferred ROA and dosage? I've never, nor do I want to try plugging, though. By the way, I forgot to mention that I did get some very minor muscle tension, but it was no issue at all. In fact, the reason I'm venturing into RCs in general, is to find a compound that reacts highly visually, with minimal body effects. What I did feel from the Metocin body-wise was just that minimal muscle tingle/tension, but it wasn't bad. So far, of all I've tried, this is the smoothest, so I'm now wondering about ROA. I guess I'll have to slog through more trials myself, as I increase dosage and possibly try smoking the freebase, or even insufflation!
    Thanks for being here, Bluelight! This is a great resource.
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    My favorite dose is 25-30mg usually, orally. I'm kind of a hardhead though, I want to try it at 50mg sometime, too. In general I find tryptamines to be well-suited to large doses since they're so physically benign, and they just keep getting more and more psychedelic with an eventual "breakthrough" a la DMT (but with the 4-substituted tryptamines, it's extended to a much longer and more useful duration).
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