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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    If you're lucky i might just get permission to show 'em off ]
    You better be talking about those belly button touching tits, else you're on your final warning bible basher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    You have got to be... The strangest person, I have ever met in my life.

    And i'm mates with Evey.... [Yes we're e-mailing each other. She's lost a lot of weight y'know and got some new tattoo's to show... If you're lucky i might just get permission to show 'em off ]
    How the fuck did Evey get dragged into this again? And if you're truly 'mates' with her, why are you discussing her weight and tattoos (which are highly personal) on a drug forum?
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    ^ Might've been a bit vodka induced. I slipped up again grrr but got Login excited so works out...

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    Cheers, that was pretty good Shambles.
    Hey long time no see. You made the topic, but are of few words. Seemingly a few things on your mind, care to share...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    ^ Might've been a bit vodka induced.

    I can definitely relate to that...
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    ^ Yeah, was bad last night. At least you're not religious. You don't have to wake up in the morning and go "Lord, I repent for drinking too much... and also getting excited over Shambles's bollocks and bashing one out". It's a very humiliating procedure.

    Anyways, point made earlier was very real. Don't care how well intended or smart you are... if you don't have the spirit, you can't impress those qualities on the world so well.

    ...i'll leave you guys to it now else i'll bog this down with more bollox... gonna redeem myself now by quitting the drink for a bit, until i feel good enough in myself to start again
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    ^ Mate, I'd be repenting to the nearest god I could find if I caught myself knocking one out to Shambo's bollocks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teen Age Riot View Post
    Triple posting for the win!

    How do I get my forum name changed? This one fucking irritates me everytime I see it. Great song/title but shite moniker.

    YES THEESE THINGS MATTER
    Hate to say it but it'll cost ya, missus. Only way to change your username is to contact the admin email and pay a fee. Alternatively you can do it for free by just starting a new account and letting staff know who you are. The informing of staff bit is mostly a courtesy/formality but does matter if somebody has previous infractions. I'm fairly sure you don't but worth mentioning cos this question comes up a lot and the above is the long and short of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    Personality wise, you're very much like Shambles. Highly, highly empathetic and sensitive to the needs of others, way more than the average person.... but your spiritual side is comparable to something like a boiled spud.
    See this is one of the big problems with "spirituality" - it's entirely subjective. One man's spiritual monks are another man's cynical tourist trap. One man's drunken ramblings are another man's nuggets of pure spiritual gold (I can think of many authours who fit this bill). And plenty of drunken ramblings are that and that alone. All subjective, innit.

    I have no interest in "spirituality" because I could define it a million ways and be highly spiritual in half of those definitions and utterly spudly in t'other. This makes it an essentially meaningless concept outside of the narrow reference frames of people who have prior agreement on a particular definition.

    However, that does not mean that many traits found in some forms of broadly-defiined "spiritual" belief systems are not valid and desirable for most people. Personal growth is just that - personal. The changes I see in myself (and others, of course, but that is just my outside opinion so of limited relevance) may go completely unnoticed by others. That does not make them invalid.

    Do you judge the one monk who takes 100 twats to the noggin differently from the one who takes 101? Or do you simply accept that these people chose to be twatted about the noggin and achieved that? Both made decisions to act a certain way they felt benefitted their personal growth - does the quantative difference in their result matter to the qualiatative intent?

    Just like other people make personal decisions they perceive as a step towards their overall growth as a human being and then act upon them - even if you are comepletely unaware of what those decisions and actions were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shambles View Post


    See this is one of the big problems with "spirituality" - it's entirely subjective. One man's spiritual monks are another man's cynical tourist trap. One man's drunken ramblings are another man's nuggets of pure spiritual gold (I can think of many authours who fit this bill). And plenty of drunken ramblings are that and that alone. All subjective, innit.

    I have no interest in "spirituality" because I could define it a million ways and be highly spiritual in half of those definitions and utterly spudly in t'other. This makes it an essentially meaningless concept outside of the narrow reference frames of people who have prior agreement on a particular definition.
    Yes good point, it can be a very loose term.

    In terms of spirituality, I'm referring literally to the spirit of the person. No fancy crap. Sometimes you can tell just by looking at a person what their spirituality is like.


    If you have a good spirituality, you tend to be quite happy and positive inside. Have goals and aspirations. You tend to regard your health more, as good health and strength is needed to put these goals into fruition. You tend to be repelled by drugs, drink and habits like smoking, as they'll interfere with your energy and hinder your aims.

    You tend to eat well and source good food.

    If you're a really hot scholar, you start drinking green tea, chamomile tea or rooibos tea instead of caffeinated drinks.

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    If you have a bad spirituality there's likely aspects in your life you are unhappy with, or things that have made you angry.

    Daily drinking or smoking is a sure sign of a very bad spirituality. You tend to be less motivated. Feel like drinking a strong coffee or tea in the morning to get you going. And continue caffeinated drinks or high sugar products to help you through the day.

    You'll enjoy drugs and drink more and find it hard to stay away from them. Likely looking forward to some kind of a night cap.


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    If you have a really bad spirituality . Things in life have left you very angry or disappointed.

    You can't get through a day without drugs or drink. You likely rely on energising products to get you through the day like caffeine, sugar. Diet is very bad. Either over-eating or not eating properly. Tend to be more attracted by junk food. You may be physically significantly overweight or underweight.

    You have many suicidal thoughts. And are frequently plotting in your mind how you can end it and the best ways to do it.

    Tend to swear and curse a lot.

    Be more susceptible to porn / unhealthy sexual desires and justify them that life is shit so it doesn't matter

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    Important thing to remember, is life throws spiritual disturbances and abuse at us from all angles. Sometimes the most beautiful people face the greatest abuse. If you "got shit", you're gonna create more fuss. So if you have a bad spirituality it says nothing about what kind of a person you are.

    Past year i've yoyo'd through the good and bad quite a lot. I usually get a good momentum going, until something comes a long and pisses me off! Then it's heavy drink for a little while... But when it affects my health and mentality, it scares me because there's still a lot i want to achieve in my life... so i yoyo back sharply to the positive and healthy....until something comes along and pisses me off again! Im on a good spate at the moment... let's see how long it lasts.
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    So that'll be another entirely subjective - and frankly downright judgemental - list of items thrown together in three arbitrary categories then will it? My how you surprise with your ever-evolving created once and once only worldview

    All digs aside though, that list of traits is just plain bizarre. You essentially seem to be listing things you do and don't like. Where the fuck is rooibos mentioned in any "spiritual" belief system anywhere?

    I honestly think it's this kind of rampant bullshittery that puts people off most from getting involved with people who describe themselves as "spiritual". On the one hand you make sweeping judgements about people whilst on the other you make even more sweeping judgements about people. How do you think this could possibly be helpful to anybody?

    That aside, this thread is supposed to be on the topic of redemption not random collections of lifestyle tips. I know plenty of people who have issues in their past that they have real trouble processing and moving on from. Changing their taste in tea is probably unlikely to be of much use to them. What's required, in my humble, is forgiveness. And the only one who can give that is themselves. That is the truly difficult step to take.

    I don't mean just ignoring issues - some of us have done truly horrible things for any number of reasons - and true redemption is in no way compatible with simply ignoring those facts. It can only come from acknowledging them and making efforts to cut that shit out as soon as much as is possible in the given situation. Ideally making amends in some way, shape or form whether directly or indirectly. In short, just being the best person you can be and not getting caught up in guilt trips over things past but maybe not yet passed.

    tl;dr: Drink whatever you like, eat whatever you like, exercise as much or as little as you like, just try to be less of a dick and work towards anti-dickery as far as is possible. Really not that complicated and has no need whatsoever for "spiritual" overlays. If that stuff happens to help any given person then feel free... but it is an active detriment to others and I feel that needs to be understood by proponents of "spirituality" in all forms. There are other ways. They may or may not involve non-standard teabaggery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shambles View Post
    So that'll be another entirely subjective - and frankly downright judgemental - list of items thrown together in three arbitrary categories then will it?
    That's the dealio, my friend. Human spirituality can go in either direction, positively or negatively. And each way, attracts different desires. Being in tune with the beauty outside of this world however... or "faith", can give you joy, hope and confidence that anything is possible... and that inspires great, or "renewed" spirituality. Nothing original here. It's no new concept. Just been taught for thousands of years.

    Have pointed out that no matter what state your spirituality is in, or what you believe, in no way reflects the person. We're all on different paths, with different experiences and outcomes. If i've come across judgemental in anyway, then major apologies.




    Happy birthday also, man.


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    When I find faith in humanity it does give me joy, hope, confidence and happiness. It is out there.

    The kindness of humanity gives me hope. I have no need in believing in gods. I have a need to see the good in my fellow humans.

    Failing that there's always cats ❤️


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    Whatever works, eh
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