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LSD - Inexperienced - 5 hits of LSD and meeting lucifer

Goliad

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Let me tel you a bit of my story. A very, short version..
took 5 tabs of LSD
very inexperienced
i realized the universe (so to speak)
7-10 hours later my "friend" and I were walking back to his house.
the time was around 10 pm
i look at him, all I can remember what I said was "this is who I really am, this is me talking, I want it, can you make it happen?" He said "I can't" then I said"but you know people who can" he said yes, I said make it happen....
shortly thereafter a van pulled up.
i recognized the people inside, as far as I knew they were drug dealers.
we are in the car and my high and mighty confidence takes an eerie turn to that of impending doom,
they begin to chant
i feel forces overcoming me
now is when my memory begins to fail me,
these next lines aren't in chronological order
im encompassed in light someone is in front of me, I have never seen this person before, he seems to be the epitome of all that I desired humans to be,
He asked me what it is I want, i replied with the burning confidence of ten thousand suns
"everything!"
he said he couldn't do that but surely there was something else.
we sat in silence for about 30 seconds, then he pressed on rather harshly,,
What is it you want from life! Immediately I realized "this is lucifer"
(my thoughts at the time)*he is not a horned beast! He appears to each human according to their subjective sinful perception of perfection* (if that makes sense...) if I told him what I wanted from life he would offer it, and I would give him my soul. I had figured it out. I laid back and said "if your power does not stretch from as far as the east to the west as the north to the south why would want anything from you? "
Let me tell you first hand, it's not wise to mock lucifer....Next thing I know I'm encompassed in light again, I remember drinking something..the light was so impure and bright...it's all I remember, then all of a sudden I wasn't breathing and I was in darkness, infinite void...of nothing. Then a fire kindled within me and from the darkness I roared with conviction and consciously shot myself back into my body, I'm back to normal consciousness no longer tripping..they see this and say "HES FIGHTING BACK!" Then they began spiritually attacking me more intensely than before, eventually I couldn't fight anymore MY strength had run out and the last Time I was able to make myself return from the darkness, I pleaded for them to stop.. They said in a mocking demeaning voice "aww he wants us to stop" next thing I know I'm getting of the van with my "friend" and we walk to his house.
I forgot everything at this point. We go behind his garage while he smokes a cigarette. I look at the ground below me and I see clear as day, a pentagram surrounded by other pentagrams spinning with words I can't read on the border of the circle also spinning....the portal was neon green.. A demonic portal. Immediately he says "not here common lets go inside" at this point I'm like OK WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON. To sum this next part up, in his bedroom it started off weak, the manipulation of reality started off weak and became strong to the point where I was in hell and translucent demons were around me...it started when I was talking to him and I noticed his eyes rolling in a complete 360 cycle behind his head...when I noticed it a few times he said "oh fuck" this was probably because he realized I saw it and they had just cleared my memory of the previous event...it all starts to come back to me..and I am forcing myself to remember, but each memory restored made me have heavy visuals of hellish things, and eventually I was experiencing infinity while under the epitome of fear and suffering...hell. He enjoyed playing with my mind here, I regained moments of clarity only to realize he was standing above me. like I was a catalyst by which he enjoys sinister creation. He gave me illusions of escape and each time I tried to take on, bam sent me right back to where I was, hell..it was so fucking intense NO WORDS CAN EXPLAIN IT!!!
I realized that it was like an infinite spiral staircase, you climb and climb thinking the top is around the next loop, but it's not, the staircase is infinite. Anyway, me lying there in a pool of sweat trembling white as a dead man, I thought to myself "I'm not dead so there has to be a way out" but how!? I then remembered that Jesus said, when you don't know what to pray pray this,
our father
which art in heaven
hallowed be thy name
thy kingdom come
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven
give us this day our daily bread
and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors
lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
after I said that. The trip ended immediately
lucifer fled.
i look over at my friend and he gave one last evil grin before going back to "normal"
now I have to consider
is Jesus Christ really the son of god and is lucifer real? Did I hallucinate all of this? Does lucifer really steal people's souls I. Exchange for earthly pleasure? I mean... Biblical prophecies are unfolding before us..if you do a tiny bit of research you would see that....so what do you guys have to say about all this shit?

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Well first of all, Lucifer is not Satan. Those are two very different things. SATAN means ADVERSARY, this could be used to anyone who is a, well... ADVERSARY. Satan as a malevolent conscious supernatural entity does not exist. Spiritual Satanism is a very sick religion of drugged up psychopaths deluding themselves into believing that there is a conscious evil supernatural entity to worship when there isn't one at all. As crazy as it may sound after all you have experienced, trust me, I have some experience with these things too. The bibilical Satan is the personification of the darkside of your own ego, and the nasty parts of your subconscious mind. YOU ARE SATAN. You are your own ADVERSARY. Seeing as you took 5 hits of LSD there is nothing strange about what you have experienced, but you need to know what's real, and what's not. Satan is a force, not a being, it is a force each one of us has, until we turn that dark force into light, in other words, Lucifer. Believe me, there is no such thing as selling your soul to the devil. It is a subconscious trap, stay away from that shit. It would litteraly be selling your soul to yourself! Does that make any sense? Ofcourse not, but let me explain why it is so. You see, each one of us carries his inner Satan, and I do not mean Satan as a fallen angel because that is just plain silly. One who takes the bible litteraly is a mad person. Satan the ugly untransformed force of darkness, lust, anger, greed etc. is inside each and every one of us. There is no exterior source for these things. The source is inside each one of us. Our inner Satan can affect the world around us, while there is no outer Satan to affect our inner world. Now let me explain to you what Lucifer is. If you were to study the Bible a little more closely, you would surely notice that the word Lucifer is mentioned only once in the whole Bible. But this word did not refer to any angel or fallen angel, oh, nonono. The word Lucifer was used to describe a Babylonian king. The prophet Isiah is comparing the king to the MORNING STAR - VENUS. You see, Lucifer is not used to describe an angel of any sort. Lucifer is VENUS, because LUCIFER means TO CARRY LIGHT. Venus carries the light of the sun, thus making it a Lucifer. Let us look at that part of the Bible which people misinterpretate - Isiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut
down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the
north:


14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be
like the most High.


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Oh boy, this is kind of difficult to explain with only a few words, but basically it is describing how Venus starts rising in the evening, getting higher, and higher and in the dawn falls down. No fallen angels here. The metaphor is used to describe the Babylonian king and his rise and fall.
But wait there is more! You will be surprised by this one - JESUS is LUCIFER. This sounds crazy I know but let's just check the bible so I can explain it to you.

Revelation 22:
16 I Jesus have sent mine
angel to testify unto you these things in
the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Lucifer is a force. A force of light which each one of us can carry if we transform our inner Satan into Lucifer. Jesus carried this force. Thus if we carry with us the inner force of Jesus, we are CHRISTOPHER, we carry CHRIST, who is LUCIFER, because HE CARRIES LIGHT. Thus we can learn how to transform our inner SATAN force into a LUCIFER force.
There is a good site explaining these things - http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/alphabet-of-kabbalah/748-samech.html

Also check out my debate on why Satan is not an evil supernatural entity - http://www.debate.org/debates/The-d...t-as-an-evil-conscious-supernatural-being./1/

I hope I made it clear for you. When you are on acid your inner forces seem to come alive in the outside world, but trust me, it's all an illusion.
 
Thank you, I appreciate your input

NP, I am glad to help when I see that you are going astray, because I was dabbling in Satanism and it really didn't bring me any good. I can tell you from my experience that these guys you were with are very unhappy in their lives, but whats even more sick is that they get off on feeling pain and being miserable and that sort of stuff just because they're ignorant. Spiritual Satanists are very, very sick people who are sadomasochistic in nature. There isn't any "enlightenment" in what they do, it's just self-destruction. Stick to God if you want enlightenment, and don't be afraid of a couple of psychopaths who worship a figment of their imagination. Whenever you see one of them trying to fuck with your mind just chant some Christian prayers in their face, It's the best way to fuck with their minds! Shit, get some holy water and sprinkle that shit all over their miserable little asses! Just don't do that if there's lots of them, cause then they have quantity. Don't worry about doing that when you're alone with one of them though, cause then you have quality! I hate those little mindgames they pull, but hey, the biggest mindgame you can pull on them is this - http://holyname.benlocher.com/wp-co...ichael-defeats-the-devil-eug-ne-delacroix.jpg
You now have the power of knowledge, while they are still ignorant. Lucifer isn't something evil, it is actually something good that you can use AGAINST THEM! Jesus himself said that he is Lucifer!
Trust me, I was a Spiritual Satanist, and the only thing Spiritual Satanists are good at is deluding themselves and others. That is their only power. Good luck, and lay off the acid.
 
"is Jesus Christ really the son of god and is lucifer real? Did I hallucinate all of this? Does lucifer really steal people's souls I. Exchange for earthly pleasure? "

YES! Jesus Christ IS the Son of the Most High and Holy God! No, you probably didn't hallucinate it because you've been opening your heart and soul up to him for years while doing drugs. Yes and no, you GIVE your soul to Lucifer because you refuse the way of The Lord.

You must be more careful what you open yourself up too.
 
This is my opinion, I speak for myself.

I believe when you do certain drugs it activates your third eye and you have the ability we arent suppose to have such seeing into the spiritual realm. As a Christian i believe in the theory of the third eye. Even if i wasnt a Christian i still believe in the third eye. We all have it but not everyone can activate it. Ive seen things on meth and heroin. Scary things. Im no novice user. All these things went down in the first four hours with different connects and different batches. Demons are real, Angels are real. Jesus is the son of God and he died on the cross for our sins and ressurected three days later. Its like what they say you cant have one foot in the darkness and one foot in the light. You cant have both, im still struggling with the concept myself. Just cuz you cant see something with your two human eyes doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Can we see air, dark matter, balls of energy, nos, oxygen? No we cant so it must not exist correct? When you have this discussion with a non believer you will always get these answers "You were on drugs, its all in your head" "Thats stuffs not real its some bs man made up" theres nothing you can tell a non believer to make them agree with you.why expect them to? The only way theyre gonna believe you really saw it and you werent tripping is if the samething happened to them. Otherwise youre fishing in a pond with no fish.
 
I completely agree with triplies. I remember a trip once where I was having strong visuals and saw demonic faces on a ceiling and shit. But since I'm not religious I didn't shit myself over this, I was just like dam those look like demon faces I must be tripping balls! And that was that. I can only imagine how downhill my trip would have gone if I believed in all that stuff and got all worked up that I was seeing the devil or some shit.
 
This is my opinion, I speak for myself.

I believe when you do certain drugs it activates your third eye and you have the ability we arent suppose to have such seeing into the spiritual realm. As a Christian i believe in the theory of the third eye. Even if i wasnt a Christian i still believe in the third eye. We all have it but not everyone can activate it. Ive seen things on meth and heroin. Scary things. Im no novice user. All these things went down in the first four hours with different connects and different batches. Demons are real, Angels are real. Jesus is the son of God and he died on the cross for our sins and ressurected three days later. Its like what they say you cant have one foot in the darkness and one foot in the light. You cant have both, im still struggling with the concept myself. Just cuz you cant see something with your two human eyes doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Can we see air, dark matter, balls of energy, nos, oxygen? No we cant so it must not exist correct? When you have this discussion with a non believer you will always get these answers "You were on drugs, its all in your head" "Thats stuffs not real its some bs man made up" theres nothing you can tell a non believer to make them agree with you.why expect them to? The only way theyre gonna believe you really saw it and you werent tripping is if the samething happened to them. Otherwise youre fishing in a pond with no fish.

I respect your opinion greatly my friend. Unfortunately on this forum here, it being a drug forum, there are alot of people who rag on folks for talking religious and spiritual things. I do believe there are 'safe' forum sections where people respect this kind of talk more though. It would be nice if people respected it everywhere but again, the darkside of the force would not like that so much! I consider myself a 'Jedi' if you will, in that I fight the good fight my friends. But in the end the only true battle is against the forces within oneself. "Love will prevail, love will overcome, evil will fail."

Darkness.jpg


I just posted something in a thread where this ragging was occuring as it made me sick to see such small minded people talking shit, here is the post that I just feel like sharing here, don't mind if I do :D:

That is how you view spirituality, and higher consciousness/positive energy is very much a part of my spirituality too.

But Ninae you have to understand some people do not share that spirituality, they embrace a darker way. Think of it as Star Wars, the Jedi and the Sith. Two sides of the force:

The light side of the Force, also commonly known as the Ashla or simply the Force, was the side of the Force aligned with honesty, compassion, mercy, self-sacrifice, and other positive emotions. For the most part, the Jedi simply referred to this as the Force.

The dark side of the Force who were dedicated opponents of the Force. The dark side represented corruption and a disregard for the natural order of the universe. The dark side was considered the domain of the Sith, whom the Jedi attempted to destroy in order to keep the Force in balance.

People can be spiritual and embrace a negative energy.

I think people here revolt at this thread you started which is disappointing to see, and 'closed minded as fuck'. Although you did title your thread (for the Grace of God) which kind of does signify you were talking about a certain kind of spirituality. The world is a venomous place Ninae. Best to stick close to like minded people who respect you, even on the internet.

A song for your thread Ninae!



Goliad, the important thing you need to be considering is, do you feel okay and healthy, mentally speaking, right now? Did this experience bother you? Are you rattled? If so, just focus on the opposite of Lucifer. Focus on positive things, for instance watch and really listen deeply to the lyrics in that song in the video link I posted above in that quote. I'm not a religious person my friend, although I am deeply spiritual. And just to fill your head with more positivity, let me bring the image of Israfel to this thread, for the merciful Angel crys at the sight of hell:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israfil

May you be well and happy Godafil. Godspeed my friend!

(Btw I don't believe in God, nor do I follow any one religion. This does not mean I don't believe in things beyond our ordinary awareness, or that there are many other realms throughout the universe. I also believe in the concept of infinitude my friends.)

Peace to all.

Edit: I just saw Goliad created this thread in April! Oh well lol 8) I should probably start reading threads from the top down, rather than from the bottom up, DOH!
 
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Why would Jesus Christ say he is Lucifer? Is that somewhere in the Bible?
 
Why would Jesus Christ say he is Lucifer? Is that somewhere in the Bible?

If you are asking this because of Samael's posts, well let's just say Samael has some pretty far out there views. Perhaps shedding light on what the name Samael actually means would explain this user's wild/obscure/maybe true maybe not views on duality/non-duality. Either way that's one twisted dude lol, no offense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael - "Samael or Samuel (Hebrew: סמאל‎) (Severity of God) (also Sammael or Samil) is an important archangel in Talmudic and post-Talmudic lore, a figure who is accuser, seducer and destroyer, and has been regarded as both good and evil."

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Best not to let his words confuse you, I would just move along lol!

This thread is hereby sanctified by The Order of Israfel! =D

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^^^^That's a cool album,Samael is a good black metal band.On topic: when I used to trip I saw demon faces every single trip.They would morph and twist and change into different ones but they were always there.Never scared me because I knew I was tripping.They were my constant trip companions.I agree with triplies,the OP took a big dose of acid and a bunch of dipshits thought it would be funny to fuck with them.Not cool at all.5 hits is a huge dose for an inexperienced tripper but that's all it was,just a trip.Nothing supernatural or demonic happened,Large doses of powerful hallucinogens can blow your mind for a few hours but they don't magically transport you to some other dimension.You just have to be mindful of who you dose with becuse,unfortunately,some people are assholes.
 
^^^^That's a cool album,Samael is a good black metal band.On topic: when I used to trip I saw demon faces every single trip.They would morph and twist and change into different ones but they were always there.Never scared me because I knew I was tripping.They were my constant trip companions.I agree with triplies,the OP took a big dose of acid and a bunch of dipshits thought it would be funny to fuck with them.Not cool at all.5 hits is a huge dose for an inexperienced tripper but that's all it was,just a trip.Nothing supernatural or demonic happened,Large doses of powerful hallucinogens can blow your mind for a few hours but they don't magically transport you to some other dimension.You just have to be mindful of who you dose with becuse,unfortunately,some people are assholes.

Good thoughts. I almost thought this was a troll thread with some of the things that Samael was saying to Godial, who knows, strange world right? 8o

Back to your post downerhead, I saw this link in another thread a few weeks ago. I think it's relevant to some of what you are saying:

http://psychedelicfrontier.com/entities-plant-spirits-real-skeptics-guide-tripping/
 
Let me tel you a bit of my story. A very, short version..
took 5 tabs of LSD
very inexperienced
i realized the universe (so to speak)
7-10 hours later my "friend" and I were walking back to his house.
the time was around 10 pm
i look at him, all I can remember what I said was "this is who I really am, this is me talking, I want it, can you make it happen?" He said "I can't" then I said"but you know people who can" he said yes, I said make it happen....
shortly thereafter a van pulled up.
i recognized the people inside, as far as I knew they were drug dealers.
we are in the car and my high and mighty confidence takes an eerie turn to that of impending doom,
they begin to chant
i feel forces overcoming me
now is when my memory begins to fail me,
these next lines aren't in chronological order
im encompassed in light someone is in front of me, I have never seen this person before, he seems to be the epitome of all that I desired humans to be,
He asked me what it is I want, i replied with the burning confidence of ten thousand suns
"everything!"
he said he couldn't do that but surely there was something else.
we sat in silence for about 30 seconds, then he pressed on rather harshly,,
What is it you want from life! Immediately I realized "this is lucifer"
(my thoughts at the time)*he is not a horned beast! He appears to each human according to their subjective sinful perception of perfection* (if that makes sense...) if I told him what I wanted from life he would offer it, and I would give him my soul. I had figured it out. I laid back and said "if your power does not stretch from as far as the east to the west as the north to the south why would want anything from you? "
Let me tell you first hand, it's not wise to mock lucifer....Next thing I know I'm encompassed in light again, I remember drinking something..the light was so impure and bright...it's all I remember, then all of a sudden I wasn't breathing and I was in darkness, infinite void...of nothing. Then a fire kindled within me and from the darkness I roared with conviction and consciously shot myself back into my body, I'm back to normal consciousness no longer tripping..they see this and say "HES FIGHTING BACK!" Then they began spiritually attacking me more intensely than before, eventually I couldn't fight anymore MY strength had run out and the last Time I was able to make myself return from the darkness, I pleaded for them to stop.. They said in a mocking demeaning voice "aww he wants us to stop" next thing I know I'm getting of the van with my "friend" and we walk to his house.
I forgot everything at this point. We go behind his garage while he smokes a cigarette. I look at the ground below me and I see clear as day, a pentagram surrounded by other pentagrams spinning with words I can't read on the border of the circle also spinning....the portal was neon green.. A demonic portal. Immediately he says "not here common lets go inside" at this point I'm like OK WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON. To sum this next part up, in his bedroom it started off weak, the manipulation of reality started off weak and became strong to the point where I was in hell and translucent demons were around me...it started when I was talking to him and I noticed his eyes rolling in a complete 360 cycle behind his head...when I noticed it a few times he said "oh fuck" this was probably because he realized I saw it and they had just cleared my memory of the previous event...it all starts to come back to me..and I am forcing myself to remember, but each memory restored made me have heavy visuals of hellish things, and eventually I was experiencing infinity while under the epitome of fear and suffering...hell. He enjoyed playing with my mind here, I regained moments of clarity only to realize he was standing above me. like I was a catalyst by which he enjoys sinister creation. He gave me illusions of escape and each time I tried to take on, bam sent me right back to where I was, hell..it was so fucking intense NO WORDS CAN EXPLAIN IT!!!
I realized that it was like an infinite spiral staircase, you climb and climb thinking the top is around the next loop, but it's not, the staircase is infinite. Anyway, me lying there in a pool of sweat trembling white as a dead man, I thought to myself "I'm not dead so there has to be a way out" but how!? I then remembered that Jesus said, when you don't know what to pray pray this,
our father
which art in heaven
hallowed be thy name
thy kingdom come
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven
give us this day our daily bread
and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors
lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
after I said that. The trip ended immediately
lucifer fled.
i look over at my friend and he gave one last evil grin before going back to "normal"
now I have to consider
is Jesus Christ really the son of god and is lucifer real? Did I hallucinate all of this? Does lucifer really steal people's souls I. Exchange for earthly pleasure? I mean... Biblical prophecies are unfolding before us..if you do a tiny bit of research you would see that....so what do you guys have to say about all this shit?
I have been in the same position as you. Twice. First time was when i smoked dmt on 3 hits of acid. (I always tested my lsd) second time was when i was on 5 hits of acid alone. On both of these occations i was with a "friend" that i have done a lot of drugs with together. We have reached the point where we could communicate telepathicaly and we were both able to feel "fources" as they occured. I noticed my "friend" would fall into stages where someone or something else would comminucate through him to me. It took me moments to realise it was the devil. I was raised in a christian family and was tought everything as a child i think this is what helped me realise what was going on. These moments are vary scary but remember that the devil is not stronger than god. And while you are alive you have the chance to stand over the devil and he will be powerless over you. I am vary happy that you did not take his offer and i and wondering how you knew that his power is not the strongest when you said "if your power does not stretch from as far as the east to the west as the north to the south why would want anything from you? " very brave words.
 
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