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RCs Flunitrazolam

Yeah I did and I can feel a super small dose a few grains is active for sure, almost produces a menthol like numbing tinglinling effect lasts for about 6 hours not very amnesiac. Really like it not as heavy as I thought. If it's real I will probably never know, you never seen a yellow benzo? I don't think color has anything to with wether or not it's legit, mxe was white somtimes and others yellow....
 
Yeah I remember the pacman blotters left that minty nitrazepam/clonazepam effect in my mouth too.

Can't say for sure if there's something else in there without at least the basics : a mass spectrometer. I encourage you to be wise. I could eyeball doses of pure any-benzos, when I was in between scales (my first trusty milligram scale broke down without reason all of a sudden, wasn't a battery thing.) I just take whatever stuck at the tip of a butter knife or prongs and lick half of that, and made sure I wasn't taking the half of a big pile but only traces on the knife. Then would go up from there if that failed.
 
Alright, I got 100mg of this stuff. It's yellow powder. I'm that idiot who eyeballs doses. I have an insane tolerance. Anyway, the first 4 times or so it was awesome. Very potent and a good sleep aid. I'm probably on like 5mg right now, I feel like it doesn't work very well anymore. The vendor said that it loses potency fast (is that true?) This stuff doesn't slur my speech, it actually makes me talk my ass off. I gave prob like 1mg to my friend and he said it felt like a better version of Xanax, he also said when he laid down to sleep very strong muscle relaxant properties "closest benzo to an opiate" that's what he said. But my tolerance is perm-fucked from eyeballing c-lam and f-lam.

Don't do what I do.
 
Flunitrazolam is starting to show up in liquid solutions as well. 1 mg/ml. Either Flunitrazolam is not as potent as we have been theorizing or they are going insane with the strength of the solutions/pellets.

I'm on like 9mg now. (huge tolerance) I'm not even tired.
 
Yeah I did and I can feel a super small dose a few grains is active for sure, almost produces a menthol like numbing tinglinling effect lasts for about 6 hours not very amnesiac. Really like it not as heavy as I thought. If it's real I will probably never know, you never seen a yellow benzo? I don't think color has anything to with wether or not it's legit, mxe was white somtimes and others yellow....

Organic compounds with nitro groups are often yellow; it could be the Flunitrazolam itself that‘s yellow, but it also wouldn’t be surprising if something synthed in a shady Chinese lab contains enough intensely colored precursors/synthesis byproducts to give it a yellow appearance.

Then again (as you noted), the yellow colour doesn‘t necessarily suggest that the final product even contains a nitro group either; amines are pretty ubiquitous in organic chemistry, and they‘re often made by reducing a nitro group (ex.: nitropropene impurities resulting in yellow street speed).

And that‘s not even mentioning all the other structures that can act as chromophores...
 
That minty-numbing taste could be a 'thing' in common with nitrobenzodiazepines, although I've only taken nitrazepam and nifoxipam, and a couple of other, less potent but long forgotten nitro-benzos, but I've a script for moggies that, contrary to their tendency for amnesic effects in USERS, appears to have caused one in my fucking doctor, who was asked for a script with a beginning and definite end date by myself, and who then went on and doubled it then not cancelled it, telling me 'take it twice a day' and just left it, or almost left it. Added it to my repeats so I didn't have to come in and ask the dozy get.

Not that I'm going to drop him in the scheisse, since no harm came to me, but had I not known not to follow the directions it might well have. And whilst I'm on longterm (strong) opioids (three formulations of two of them, morphine and oxy, not counting OTCs, or anything grown from poppies or other plant life, or that came from something born in a beaker that made anybody's vacuum-line output a stench of vomit for the next several oil changes too, although the doc didn't, in fairness know about any but the oxy and morphine, nor about anything that might have, perhaps come from morphine either. But he DID know I was on two morphine formulations and dosage units and a fair dose, plus quite a bit of IR oxycodone

(at least enough to seemingly suddenly become capable of by virtue of my mere presence in a shared room for less than the time it takes to speak the words 'good morning doc' to, of pissing them off like a rotting, louse-riddled syphillitic lesion with a severe case of tellurium breath, in all but the case of the prescribing dr originally and one other) Anyone of the others even within a light-year of cunthood seems automatically to despise me for so much as being a patient on the meds in question.

Bloody politician-shagging pack of mingemongering twofaced spineless little polyps. Handing out with one palm what they make abundantly clear they'd like to slap me for accepting with the other, were it not for the standing orders of those two doctors and a long history of unquestioned repeats with rare changes over years, such as one trying me on fentanyl and my going back the next day and begging for the oxy I was on at the time to be reinstated instead, since I didn't like the fent one bit.

As a result, someone somewhere either forgot outright, or just thought 'lets reduce the number of appointments for refills in this set time period planned by this patient by putting it on indefinite repeat', so I've had my share of nitrazepam, and damn if it doesn't have exactly that minty-to-slightly-anaesthetizing type sensation on the oral mucosa. No yellow color to the tablets but thats saying nowt at 5mg a pill 6-8x a day as and when, rather than the daily 10mg they tell me I should (still) be taking, despite the need that instituted the rx no longer being there. Still, not going to throw away a resource which would be difficult to re-acquire when it is not even asked of me. Sooner cache them and use them when I really do need them, like to take the edge off when my pain meds run low, and I need a solid smack round the head with a big, benzo-shaped stick to get any rest for the next two days. Writing off whichever DR's amnesia/dotage got that one written down as 'repeat automatically printed to schedule every week' as an error on their part and in my favour enough for it to be a resource that'd be hard-gotten generally and that I'm sure as shit stinks going to mine out deeper than the shade of an albino's cheeks after cutting cheese in an elevator shared with elderly lady nuns who are busy taking a mutual masturbation break. With the aid of a dog, having just been caught doing so. On camera. ;P


Flunitrazolam sounds bordering on dangerous though just from the name of the stuff. A fluorinated nitro-triazolobenzodiazepine is a pretty bald-faced and blatant shot on the part of some enterprising chemist with some knowledge of SAR to come up with the results pending a train of thought going something pretty damn close to ''now what factors can be put together to make a 1,4-benzodiazepine with a long action, powerfully hypnotic general flavour and be a real fuckoff wall-banger of a tranq, fit either for drug pigs with bank cards or taking down any stray rhinoceros that might just happen to escape from the local zoo, cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, straight through the cat-flap in the front door of my lab''

''X=fuckedup/2, solve for X'', 1,4-benzodiazepine' in their lab notebook. Or sideways up the nearest wall in reverse gear when driving on the part of the first test studies in humans. Whilst managing to drive a rabbit. Or perhaps 'at least TAKING this, as opposed to withdrawing from overuse, won't kill anyone very likely, lets let it loose and have it become the 'fent-a-benzo'. The nitrobenzodiazepines are well known for being quality goods, and popular with benzo fans, whilst the triazolo ring tends to mean potency shoots up quicker than a desperate junkie given his body-weight in skag, a bag of needles and water amps, and fluorination tends to give benzos with a long half life, doubtless the fluorination making them somewhat metabolism-resistant. 1x3=one mean ass cunt of a benzo to flog on the grey market that'll have random tranq-heads fornicating in the church pews in zero to jack shit time flat. Sounds like a fucker for tolerance too which is pretty shitty.

Although IMO I can discount the theory that, despite your friendly neighborhood nitro group making for a good chromophore, be it Ar-NO2 or aliphatic nitro, P2NP being a candidate for an amphetamine impurity to any significant level. It is indeed yellow, a very pretty yellow, especially when crystallized with an artful hand, but ever got that stuff into a scratch? lets just say, that the first person to try smoking any P2NP-contaminated amphetamine/meth/N-ethylamphetamine would be the last if anyone else got word of it from them. Ever been in a room with the stuff when it gets hot, and inhale any vapor? its pretty passable teargas. We aren't talking 'acrolein' downright toxic or chloroacetone-level of 'arrghhh my eyes, my eyes, who kicked red hot sand in my eyes and nose and throat and stepped on my face! where the FUCK are the fresh canisters for my mask????' but a room full of dispersed P2NP vapors will do one pretty well as a substitute for an improvised lachrymatory agent of respectable capacity for the task of dispersing a crowd, rather than attracting clientele wishing to snort something that comes from it, or smoke it. I'd shudder to imagine what trying to inhale the smoke of some P2NP on tinfoil would be like. NOT something I'd like to try. It LOOKS pretty, it actually manages to smell quite pleasant in sub-lachrymatory concentrations, and its made from the uber-tasty-smelling benzaldehyde (benzaldehyde has a scent like marzipan, and is actually used in small amounts, diluted in edible oil to make artificial almond essence. And it smells fucking lovely, I can't work with benzaldehyde without clocking off thinking 'fuck me, do I ever want something sweet and pastry-based to EAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT' and hell take anybody stupid and suicidal enough to get between me and sweet snack type junk food after getting up close and personal with some nice fresh benz=D Its got to be one of the nicest smells, along with diethyl ether and chloroform ever to come out of an RBF.
 
I feel like this stuff's potency has been overstated. I took 0.53mg about 45 minutes ago, and I feel it, but not as much as I expected to. I dare say it's less potent than clonazolam in my experience.

I suppose it's possible my solution is underdosed, but my source has been around for years and is extremely reliable.

I also find it takes a bit longer to kick in for me.
 
^ Clonazolam is arguably the most potent benzodiazepine around; the original discovery it was noted to be the most active compound tested-odd that it didn't get further medical attention(or pharm testing, blah
 
^ Clonazolam is arguably the most potent benzodiazepine around; the original discovery it was noted to be the most active compound tested-odd that it didn't get further medical attention(or pharm testing, blah

I had no intention of downplaying clonazolam's potency, but I had read people saying flunitrazolam was supposed to be significantly more potent (I believe the highest estimate I saw was 4x). So I was just saying that I don't find it *that* potent. I also find that it takes about an hour to fully come up for me.
 
Lol Clonazolam is at 50mcg or so; Remember they make. Clonazepam wafers that are a mere 1/8th of a mg, or 125mcg, and Clonazolam is more potent; 1.5-2x would think

Unless 1mg of it is equivalent to 7-8mg Clonazepam or ~200mg valium, then that was a SSERIOUS overestimatetion, on their part, not yours - and clono is a bit more potent than flu nitrazepam, makes more sense that it's trinitro counterpart, Clonazolam is more potent than flunitrazolam
 
Clonazolam dose is around 250-500ug without (or very little) tolerance. Where did you hear that 50ug number?
 
IIRC threshold is 50-100ug, light dose is 100ug -250ug, COMMON is 250-500ug and strong is 500ug to 1mg. Beyond 1mg you're on your own. Onset around the 45min mark means be patient, these little bastards can bite as you slip into amnesiac land and set off into the night.

*Note: This is not data gathered under any official regulatory body for prescription drugs, and should be taken with caution, amounts divided by half and subsequently thrown in the bin after further contemplation about not violating that restraining order from last summer..
 
^ Yes

Again, they make 1/8th mg, or 125mcg clonazepam wafer, and quarter mg tablets (generic 0.25 at least

Clonazolam is more potent-so it may not give you a buzz, and you would need to be pretty much benzo naive, however it would in theory be "active" at less than 100 micrograms

If we assume 1.5-2x potency, which seems reasonable, pure Clonazolam is, or has the potential to be straight up dangerous

And doubt flunitrozolam is active at 25mcgs, so leave it at that?
 
Clonazolam is definitely active at 50 ug.... At 100 ug I was slurring and stumbly already more than alcohol or any benzo has affected me. Clam is extremely potent. Cpam never affected me like clam even at 6 mg
 
Clonazolam is definitely active at 50 ug.... At 100 ug I was slurring and stumbly already more than alcohol or any benzo has affected me. Clam is extremely potent. Cpam never affected me like clam even at 6 mg

Just goes to show how much individual biochemistry matters. I can function pretty damn well on clam until i start going over 0.5mg, and I don't have a monstrous benzo tolerance or anything.
 
^ Well that would be like ~1mg clonazepam,(or 1-2mg xanax) so not that surprising, although yes, YMMV
 
^ Well that would be like ~1mg clonazepam,(or 1-2mg xanax) so not that surprising, although yes, YMMV

I would describe clonazolam as more than twice as potent as clonazepam, but less than 4x (which was the number I saw floated around when I was in my preliminary research phase of reading as much about it as possible). Honestly not that far off either though, IMO.

Do you have a link to the paper that first described clonazolam? i would love to see some actual data about it, such as bonding affinities and what have you.
 
Binding affinities weren't listed, though it was the most "potent compound tested"


Clonazepam is like methadone a but, it actually becomes more effective/potent with chronic use or multiple doses-that is why it is sometimes described as being double (or 1.5-2x) the potency of alprazolam, even though a single 2mg dose would be roughly equivalent, and if anything, the fast onset of Xanax may make it "feel more potent

Xanax hits you hard and fast, and so does Clonazolam; that is likely why it could seem 3-4x as potent; however 0.125 mg clonazepam is like 1.25-2.5mg Valium, so unless this stuff is over 100x as potent, double seems fine, for overall, chronic benzodiazepine effects

(Clono is 30-40x and xanax ~20x(range 15-30) as potent as dzp, basing figures on that-1mg C-LAN could arguably be like 7ng ativan;)

Clonazepam has a binding affinity of less than 1nm, higher than alprazolam, if that is of interest... maybe can find it?
 
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I would argue that flubromazolam is the most potent especially when taken in consecutive days bc of its HL
 
Wouldn't mind trying this, just a couple of times, since I love nitrobenzodiazepines out of benzos in general with nitrazepam and loprazolam being favourites so far, and quite enjoyed nifoxipam.

But wouldn't want weight around, unless it were to be shifted to others in single dose units or a few at a time so no one person ended up taking more than a couple of hits, I really wouldn't want gram weights of this stuff about, even though I'm no benzo baghead, I still enjoy moggies given the local docs surgery graciously granted me for some reason an accidental infinite repeat script automatically printed for 5mg nitrazepam, is this put up in pellets or blotters, PG soln. etc?
 
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