Prices gone to shit after corona

[avatarhp10]

Whats the best heroin you've had in Aus mine was solid beige rocks got me so stoned, ive had Afghan I few time down in the cross but I prefer those fat rocks of china

What s with all this heroin atm with corona viris it's either super cut or super expensive

Any thoughts

 

[Cateturry3turrycan]

Its all about supply and demand, here in the US boi has seen a resurgence this past year, but due to DHS completely closing entry into the US the route most cartels use to smuggle drugs in suddenly has been cut off. The majority of drugs that enter my country do so in mules, people that appear the most unassuming, paid by the cartels to not raise suspicion as to pass right through without being searched.
So prices have gone up. But, the beauty of the free market is, its self correcting.

Id stock up if you find some good shit though

 

[JessFR]

Whats the best heroin you've had in Aus mine was solid beige rocks got me so stoned, ive had Afghan I few time down in the cross but I prefer those fat rocks of china

What s with all this heroin atm with corona viris it's either super cut or super expensive

Any thoughts

I can't speak for today, I've been off heroin since 2018.

But prior to that, I think the best heroin I ever had was some allegedly uncut heroin we (me and my partner) got from our dealer once. It was expensive, but even using a quarter less of it than we normally would was still significantly better than normal.

Other than that, I've just found it to be hit and miss. Some batches seemed to be better than others with no clear reason.

There was a period where I'd swear the heroin was better simply depending on what time of day we ordered it...

It's weird, I've never been able to work out any consistent reason why it was sometimes better than others.

Since me and my partner at the time always did our shots together, from the same batch at the same time and the same quantity. We could compare experiences and it certainly seemed to be real rather than something psychological. Sometimes I'd think a batch was better than he did, but usually we were both in agreement.

 

[someguyoz]

I can't speak for today, I've been off heroin since 2018.

But prior to that, I think the best heroin I ever had was some allegedly uncut heroin we (me and my partner) got from our dealer once. It was expensive, but even using a quarter less of it than we normally would was still significantly better than normal.

Other than that, I've just found it to be hit and miss. Some batches seemed to be better than others with no clear reason.

There was a period where I'd swear the heroin was better simply depending on what time of day we ordered it...

It's weird, I've never been able to work out any consistent reason why it was sometimes better than others.

Since me and my partner at the time always did our shots together, from the same batch at the same time and the same quantity. We could compare experiences and it certainly seemed to be real rather than something psychological. Sometimes I'd think a batch was better than he did, but usually we were both in agreement.

Interesting. I haven't done heroin since the late 90s before the big drought kicked in and all we got was #4 china in those days. Never ever saw anything else, and certainly not brown shit. Reading about covid this morning and the issues the cartels are having in the US, just wondering if the supply chain to Aust has been affected?

 

[JessFR]

Interesting. I haven't done heroin since the late 90s before the big drought kicked in and all we got was #4 china in those days. Never ever saw anything else, and certainly not brown shit. Reading about covid this morning and the issues the cartels are having in the US, just wondering if the supply chain to Aust has been affected?

When I've seen brownish heroin, and I've seen it probably only a bit less frequently than completely white heroin, its looked and behaved and felt very much like the white heroin, other than the slightly different color.

It still dissolved rapidly without heat or acid like the white heroin in Australia. So it's still #4.

It did have a bit of a different taste though. By which I mean it had a taste at all. White heroin I've generally found had no taste, the brown heroin I've had usually had a very mild not unpleasant yet indescribable taste to it when injected.

And when I say brownish, I don't mean brown like some brown heroins I've seen in other countries. It's only very mildly brown, a light eggshell kinda color probably best describes it. Similar to beige but probably a little darker. But it seemed to vary a bit.

I have no idea what the reason is for the difference or what it means. All I know is most dealers sold white heroin, generally solid rocks, and I had one that sold brownish eggshell, also compressed to rock.

 

[Pietra]

Interesting. I haven't done heroin since the late 90s before the big drought kicked in and all we got was #4 china in those days. Never ever saw anything else, and certainly not brown shit. Reading about covid this morning and the issues the cartels are having in the US, just wondering if the supply chain to Aust has been affected?

Hey Someguyoz, of course the supply chain in Australia is affected. The ports are closed which is how most heroin gets into the country. Anything anyone may have been holding onto will by now be so cut and so outrageously expensive, it won't be worth it. Not that it's ever stopped anyone desperate enough before.
My guy told me last night that this is the last of what he can get now. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner tbh.

 

[JessFR]

I would have thought there would still be some way to smuggle it in, given international shipping still seems to be operating.

What's alarming for all our heroin using comrades is the international restrictions will likely be in place a long time.

Probably a very good time to get on methadone or subs. I'm certainly glad I'm not still on heroin while this is all going on. I really feel for the people who are though.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Best Heroin I ever did came out Lawrence Massachusettes. It was deep brown Afghan like heroin. Expensive as fuck. Most euphoric high I have ever had. My friend hit me he told me to look away, he was driving his BMW, I looked out the window and 10 seconds later I got the most relaxing wave of heaven I have ever had.

Still don't know why he told me to look away, part of me thinks he left 1/3 in the needle for himself LOL.

Oh junkies.

I don't buy street heroin anymore cause it's fentanyl death shoot in New England.. but I'm sure with the right Spanish connections it's still just $200 for 10 grams or a finger like it always has been.

 

[JessFR]

Most euphoric high I have ever had. My friend hit me he told me to look away, he was driving his BMW, I looked out the window and 10 seconds later I got the most relaxing wave of heaven I have ever had.

Oh man that's super suspicious.

There's no way I'd be looking away.
I have issues of feeling out of control, I insist I get to watch just with regular blood tests and stuff, no way in hell would I not insist on watching in that situation.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Oh man that's super suspicious.

There's no way I'd be looking away.
I have issues of feeling out of control, I insist I get to watch just with regular blood tests and stuff, no way in hell would I not insist on watching in that situation.

Haha he's kinda the guy you just do what he says. I'm not some pussy or one to get taken advantage of I really trust this guy even with my life even when he's actively a heroin addict.

So funny story I've been in rehab with this guy, I've been getting high on heroin with this guy, and I've been in Jail with this guy. On the same unit. All at different time periods for different reasons besides luck.

And whether we were eating a homestyle meal or just got a McChicken he Always "said grace" or bowed his head and did the Hail Mary before we ate. I never saw him not do it.

Now I'm not religous or anything I just was very taken aback after shooting Heroin and walking out of McDonalds bathroom high as fuck, he would STILL remember to bow his head and Thank God for whatever was in front of him. Good or bad.

That's why I looked away. I don't think he'd steal my heroin either, but IDK why he said that. I know he didn't mess with me we only had clean needles.

 

[JoEhJoEh]

HI,

yeah, that was why I did it at the very beginning of all that shit....

JJ

 

[hyroller]

Lol meth went up (quality) with corona. Corona my whole life. Lol. Prices went up though.

 

[JessFR]

Haha he's kinda the guy you just do what he says. I'm not some pussy or one to get taken advantage of I really trust this guy even with my life even when he's actively a heroin addict.

So funny story I've been in rehab with this guy, I've been getting high on heroin with this guy, and I've been in Jail with this guy. On the same unit. All at different time periods for different reasons besides luck.

And whether we were eating a homestyle meal or just got a McChicken he Always "said grace" or bowed his head and did the Hail Mary before we ate. I never saw him not do it.

Now I'm not religous or anything I just was very taken aback after shooting Heroin and walking out of McDonalds bathroom high as fuck, he would STILL remember to bow his head and Thank God for whatever was in front of him. Good or bad.

That's why I looked away. I don't think he'd steal my heroin either, but IDK why he said that. I know he didn't mess with me we only had clean needles.

I still wouldn't do it.

It's not just about being ripped off, I don't like feeling like I'm not in control. And especially not when it comes to injecting drugs.

I've let other people shoot me up, well one person, someone I trusted much like you described, on rare occasions where I was having trouble and was willing to let him try. But I still insist on watching, otherwise I'd get bad anxiety.

 

[Johno88]

Well there’s heroin around but it’s Afganistán brown or homebake. I haven’t had gear like this in over 20 years. I used to add white vinegar or lemon juice and it rocked you. I’ve been putting 20 units of vinigar with 40 units water to half a gram and it does seem to make it a little better. I’m not sure I’m doing it right it’s been so long. Anyone got tips?

 

[Coffeeshroom]

If it comes down to H the prices have stayed the same and quality has actually gone up with some dealers and quality has gone down with others but the price or the ease of getting it is still the same nothing really changed there. Just the pharmacies around here that has actually raised there prices on almost to everything, sad for as benzo people here.

 

[JessFR]

Well there’s heroin around but it’s Afganistán brown or homebake. I haven’t had gear like this in over 20 years. I used to add white vinegar or lemon juice and it rocked you. I’ve been putting 20 units of vinigar with 40 units water to half a gram and it does seem to make it a little better. I’m not sure I’m doing it right it’s been so long. Anyone got tips?

I have a tip. Don't use lemon juice. You never wanna inject anything living. The human body can react really baddly when it thinks something alive (or was alive) is in it that shouldn't be.

Ideally use sterile ascorbic acid from an exchange. Although I'm not sure how common they are in Australian exchanges. I haven't seen acid come with any fitpacks or sharps kits in Australia.

If not ascorbic then citric acid. Vinegar I'd avoid but I'd still use it over lemon.

It's also not unusual for #3 to need some heat to help it dissolve.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Sorry for the off-topic question but what is the difference between #1-#4 H
All we get here is Tai white or as others know it as china white. The H is white and has a distinctive candy floss smell when burnt or inhale. What Number does thai white fall under and what is difference in all them?

 

[JessFR]

Sorry for the off-topic question but what is the difference between #1-#4 H
All we get here is Tai white or as others know it as china white. The H is white and has a distinctive candy floss smell when burnt or inhale. What Number does thai white fall under and what is difference in all them?

How is it everyone seems to have a different idea of what white heroin tastes like? Lol.

OK so white heroin, the kind you predominantly get in Australia is #4.

The number system I think was coined by the dea referring to the stages in heroin manufacturing.

#1 and #2 aren't heroin yet and so aren't very interesting from a user's perspective.

#3 is base heroin, so afghan heroin for instance. The kind you get in Europe mostly (far as I know), and sometimes in other places like Australia. It's mainly for smoking and requires an acid (and often some heat) to dissolve for IV.

#4 is heroin hydrochloride. So like the China white we get. It should dissolve in room temperature water nice and quickly. And is ideal for injecting.

Most heroin in Australia is #4. Since ours mostly comes out of the Golden triangle.

There is also tar heroin which doesn't really fit into either category. I've yet to see it in Australia and have no first hand experience with it.

 

[Halvkalv]

Prices here (Denmark, Scandinavia - Europe) have not really been affected.
At first it seemed like there was a little less of it around (but not so it could not be found easily enough), but then that went back to normal again like nothing had happened (in a matter of about a month).
Prices has not really been fluctuating, if any then its about 10-20% cheaper then a year ago, it goes for about 80-90 dollar or 65-75 euro for a gram of #3 brown afghan - a year ago it was about 95-110 dollar/80-90 euro for something that was a bit less potent.
The quality has actually seemed to go UP during the corona-virus-crisis, what I can get at the moment is also about 10-20% stronger then what was around a year ago.

The weed-market here is _utterly_ wasted though...
A year ago a gram of really the really good beige Moroccan (or really good and sticky black hash) was about 7-8 dollars/6-7 euro - now most people are paying about 12-15 dollar/11-13 euro for a "gram" of some really boring quality hash that is about half the strength of what it was a year ago but still costs double as much (making it about 4 times more expensive pr mg of THC!).

It all seems quite strange as it ought to be a lot easier to get good hash/cannabis smuggled here - it usually comes from either the Netherlands or from Morocco via Spain which ain't far away.
I have not had a joint which I would describe as anything near the bomb in at least 2-3 months...