☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[telepathetic]

I regret it for the sole purpose that I ruined it and I can never enjoy another romantic or therapeutic roll - especially now with ptsd, when im now immune to the only cure.

 

[AutoTripper]

There is one drug i regret doing it is mdma fuck even speed was better for myself. I got rid of my last pill aswell so i won't candy flip or take MDMA ever again. Been one year off mdma and feeling way better when this time last year i was on the worst comedowns about to pop myself.

I would say doing all the drugs and coming off most of them has made me stronger. I can handle alot of situations alot easier with less stress than most non drug users.

Im glad i got rid that mdma though it was so tempting to take it but im stronger than that now. Also not getting 2cb or ketamine gonna try spend more time sober. Will get changa though most likely.

Drugs start off amazing but the more you use them the less good you get out of them and escalating negatives till it gets so bad you have to quit the drug before it kills you or you kill yourself.

100% honest, and you’ve heard me suggest I’d anticipate a perceptible cognitive decline/alteration (to both myself and others) from a single MDMA use, but that even, the only main reason I’ve not taken my Dutch Bowsers, first time in 16 years, and trust me I have itched to- I’m simply scared of a possible severe allergic reaction and very uncomfortable experience or worse.

Now, the uncanny thing. I’ve seen, spoken to a variety of people recent months.

Who know me longterm, less long, not at all etc.

Honestly, nobody has observed any noticeable alteration in me, my “presentness”, sharp Witt and consciousness, sense of humour, personality, communicating, cognition etc.

I say this in relation to the preposterous LSD use. I would be concerned about MDMA though in this regard.

I strongly feel, if I took MDMA, the following week at least people would notice something different about me, unlike the high LSD state where no matter how I feel I’m always so close to myself, so pure and free.

But still, no allergy concerns, I’d probably take MDMA as often as I could get hold of it.

 

[AutoTripper]

I regret it for the sole purpose that I ruined it and I can never enjoy another romantic or therapeutic roll - especially now with ptsd, when im now immune to the only cure.

Soz my memory is amnesiac due to TOO much benzo. I don’t know if I suggested this before but you say the only cure for PTSD.

Microdosing psychedelics is an equally scientifically and statistically (almost) method.

Especially psilocybin.

Ketamine too.

I have PTSD I believe. I’ve been in no war, not been abused, but have lived through torturous physical and anxiety extreme, highly conscious doesn’t help in this fake reality right now.


However, we CAN live without MDMA. Feeling okay is what counts.

I hope you get some relief over time, which, itself heals.

“Heart speak”, or N.E.T. , Neuro eomotional technique WOOOORKS I swear. Clever stuff.

Therapies can be conducted via Skype or Zoom.

Anne Jensen is the world leader.

 

[telepathetic]

Yes, time is helping

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Honestly, even the good MDMA pills I had are very nice, but psychedelics are easily another level in recreational value imo. The love and emotion feels too forced, I can never trust it.
Don't know if it was the MDMA. There are some flips I'd like to do however.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Anne Jensen is the world leader.

Wait, what?

 

[perpetualdawn]

Honestly, even the good MDMA pills I had are very nice, but psychedelics are easily another level in recreational value imo. The love and emotion feels too forced, I can never trust it.
Don't know if it was the MDMA. There are some flips I'd like to do however.

I totally find the same, the love and emotion feels too forced. But this is precisely what makes it such a valuable therapeutic tool isn't it!?

For recreation/tripping I prefer the sharper lens of a psychedelic like LSD or 2C-E. Plus no burnout, you pay for everything upfront in a possibly bumpy come-up.

 

[AutoTripper]

Wait, what?

Haha, I have always had the talent of somehow seeking out the best.

Be it E’s, trips, Ket, Weed….or here, world leading pioneers In this powerful, largely unknown, unorthodox but very affective mental, emotional, phobia releasing technique.

Edit- ps, I just cooked up millet, with sweet corn and spinach plus thick and runny spicy tomato purée source I whipped op. Tasty.

 

[AutoTripper]

I totally find the same, the love and emotion feels too forced. But this is precisely what makes it such a valuable therapeutic tool isn't it!?

For recreation/tripping I prefer the sharper lens of a psychedelic like LSD or 2C-E. Plus no burnout, you pay for everything upfront in a possibly bumpy come-up.

For me, yes I hear you on the pay now, trip soon! Lol.

But I think it relates to usage pattern.

Lately, I’m paying a day and two later sometimes more, mentally unsettled.

Now if you are wise, 250 ug ev 2 to 4 weeks, yes the initial comeup is often the only bad bit.

The beautiful afterglow kicks in much faster after a melancholy day, sometimes, feeling displaced and a little ungrounded.

 

[Xorkoth]

I totally find the same, the love and emotion feels too forced. But this is precisely what makes it such a valuable therapeutic tool isn't it!?

For recreation/tripping I prefer the sharper lens of a psychedelic like LSD or 2C-E. Plus no burnout, you pay for everything upfront in a possibly bumpy come-up.

This is my experience too and what I have always said. Most drugs, you are rewarded right away and then pay later. But with psychedelics, you generally experience the payment up front from the transition into the altered state, and then are rewarded with clarity and afterglow and possibly progress made towards being more holistically healthy afterwards. Which is why I love them so much. And actually for me, I'm lucky that over time and familiarity, I rarely experience any negatives up front either. Only a few psychedelics consistently are difficult at first (2C-E is one of them, but LSD is nearly always all positive from the come-up to the aftereffects).

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

My most outright recreational drug experiences were my first time DOC & first time DOB. I never could experience the same fullness with DOC afterwards for some reason, still very fun though. Tears, rolling around.... unbelievably epic. These levels of fun are unthinkable on empathogens alone.
But I'm kinda banking on MDMA smoothing the psychedelic edges out that make it not that much a net gain to use em in hectic conditions, such as clubs and festivals. I have high hopes for 2C-E in that respect after my last trip, I believe someone once coined it as "sparkle flip", a low dose would suffice, I just need that smoothing to not incessantly overthink the unnecessary in such a moment.

 

[AutoTripper]

but LSD is nearly always all positive from the come-up to the aftereffects).

My recently explored and adored biggish doses, both 0.5, 0.6 and 1.1 mg have been that way.

No edginess fantastic from the off.

But just 50 ug, I can need to wait several hours before I’m really settled and fully at peace.

On 1 mg there is simply nothing but peace.

 

[AutoTripper]

My most outright recreational drug experiences were my first time DOC & first time DOB. I never could experience the same fullness with DOC afterwards for some reason, still very fun though. Tears, rolling around.... unbelievably epic. These levels of fun are unthinkable on empathogens alone.
But I'm kinda banking on MDMA smoothing the psychedelic edges out that make it not that much a net gain to use em in hectic conditions, such as clubs and festivals. I have high hopes for 2C-E in that respect after my last trip, I believe someone once coined it as "sparkle flip", a low dose would suffice, I just need that smoothing to not incessantly overthink the unnecessary in such a moment.

MDMA + LSD+ Good cannabis + good friends + good setting, was my favourite thing.

Ketamine coming along 2002, kind of blurred things and was 90% more officially messy after that.

But I would use ecstasy all the time to mellow and take the edge off of the acid without bringing me down from it at all there was the most incredible synergy between those two.

A broadly loved combo, just meant to be.

The general advice was acid first, adding in e’s as you go.

 

[AutoTripper]

love that phrasing.

I am not one to buy into claims of drugs being miracle cures. For example I love weed, but think it is overhyped sometimes for medical treatments (still a good treatment for many things). That being said, I really gained a high appreciation for psychedelic's reported ability to alter behavior on people for long periods of time and am glad to see the boom in research around them for addiction treatment.

I really do believe my experience with drinking alcohol can be separated into a period before a certain acid trip and the period afterwards. My drinking was never out of control, or what I think most BLs would say even approaches alcoholism but was pretty heavy. After taking 4 hits of very good acid in my mid to early 20s, I just had a very different relationship with it. It is not like during my trip I spent 5 hours thinking about my drinking experiences, just briefly thought about a few things, and had that thought "I should drink less" in a state of ego death. have done acid a few dozen times and this one trip is the only one where I felt like I had a profound takeaway wrt to drug use.

I enjoy drinking still, but after almost a decade I have almost never gotten drunk alone, drunk to blackout (was rare before this particular trip but would happen), or really gotten that drunk in general, I just look at alcohol with a much less recreational lens - and I use to be one of those dicks that would pride themselves on doing shot competitions with people or some crap.

Try switching alcohol for kava?

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

MDMA + LSD+ Good cannabis + good friends + good setting, was my favourite thing.

Ketamine coming along 2002, kind of blurred things and was 90% more officially messy after that.

But I would use ecstasy all the time to mellow and take the edge off of the acid without bringing me down from it at all there was the most incredible synergy between those two.

A broadly loved combo, just meant to be.

The general advice was acid first, adding in e’s as you go.

Yes that's the plan. Quite hard to find good MDMA here, I will not expand on the mehdma thing, but a simple look at the state of parties is enough. Although I admittedly haven't really looked that hard. All in due time...

 

[AutoTripper]

Loss of magic = miserable bastard lol!

 

[Xorkoth]

My most outright recreational drug experiences were my first time DOC & first time DOB. I never could experience the same fullness with DOC afterwards for some reason, still very fun though. Tears, rolling around.... unbelievably epic. These levels of fun are unthinkable on empathogens alone.
But I'm kinda banking on MDMA smoothing the psychedelic edges out that make it not that much a net gain to use em in hectic conditions, such as clubs and festivals. I have high hopes for 2C-E in that respect after my last trip, I believe someone once coined it as "sparkle flip", a low dose would suffice, I just need that smoothing to not incessantly overthink the unnecessary in such a moment.

I sometimes have less satisfying experiences on DOC but I have consistently gotten pretty amazing experiences on it throughout. Fully enjoyable anyway, and fulfilling, and useful. But there is something special about the first time you take a new substance, and also about the earlier experiences in total that you have. Over time you get more and more used to the psychedelic state and it becomes less profound, but useful in a different way, for real world introspection and breaking up the default mode network, At least that's how it is for me, and DOC is one of the best for disrupting your standard operating procedure in your thought process and automatic responses to things.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Loss of magic = miserable bastard lol!

Not loss of magic mate my second roll ever, a year after my first one. Same with my friend. More recently, a friends first experience. Boring as fuck, I was on the same pill. Went to sleep after 4 hours. The parties, man... everyone just dancing very slightly with their eyes closed, hardly sweating. It is tragic. I can tell you about many more experiences, but it'd bore you just as much as it would me. I've had some quality stuff intermittent but sadly never had a steady supply. Sitting on some true shite stuff right now! If you're ever in the neighborhood come over and see for yourself

I sometimes have less satisfying experiences on DOC but I have consistently gotten pretty amazing experiences on it throughout. Fully enjoyable anyway, and fulfilling, and useful. But there is something special about the first time you take a new substance, and also about the earlier experiences in total that you have. Over time you get more and more used to the psychedelic state and it becomes less profound, but useful in a different way, for real world introspection and breaking up the default mode network, At least that's how it is for me, and DOC is one of the best for disrupting your standard operating procedure in your thought process and automatic responses to things.

My experiences were really great still, but for some reason they were never as strong and complete, even on almost double the dose. It's summer now though, I'd like to revisit DOC after a 2 year hiatus. Generally I do appreciate certain psychedelics more the more I do 'em, so it doesn't really resonate with me. I've also never known true profundity so take it however you like. Sometimes you need to break out a big one to remember why you do all this stuff in the first place

 

[Jabberwocky]

I learned the difference between 500 ug LSD mediated by anti-psychotics and 500 ug totally unmediated the hard way 48 hours ago. I was previously tripping through my Abilify dose with quite a lot of fun at 500 ug but i let it run out and stopped taking seroquel for sleep over the last week and took the same LSD dose. Fuck me that was the most intense thing I have ever experienced in my life. And I’ve done some very intense things involving heavy weapons, heavy machinery, speed, anger, and testosterone in my time. It took we away for 24 hours and then laid me low for another 24 just getting a grip again. I don’t think i will ever take that much acid again.

But I survived and the world is a different place this morning. Hello everyone. I am now Perforated.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

I learned the difference between 500 ug LSD mediated by anti-psychotics and 500 ug totally unmediated the hard way 48 hours ago. I was previously tripping through my Abilify dose with quite a lot of fun at 500 ug but i let it run out and stopped taking seroquel for sleep over the last week and took the same LSD dose. Fuck me that was the most intense thing I have ever experienced in my life. And I’ve done some very intense things involving heavy weapons, heavy machinery, speed, anger, and testosterone in my time. It took we away for 24 hours and then laid me low for another 24 just getting a grip again. I don’t think i will ever take that much acid again.

But I survived and the world is a different place this morning. Hello everyone. I am now Perforated.

welcome back bro. Yup 500 ug of LSD without tolerance or antipsychotics or benzos is on par with 60 mg IM DMT. A full 24 hour trip. Enough to make you want to take a long break from tripping or even do it again. After my last dose above that level i dropped my doses down and slowly been building back up.