RCs α-PHiP Thread

[negrogesic]

I'm getting 100mg this week, since it's been a while. Even bought a fresh pipe to REALLY treat myself and enjoy it.

Looks like my new time lock safe will be put to good usage, haha.

I have a time lock safe but its torture. The one time I used it i put in some O-DSMT for 10 days and kept on having dreams that I was able to open it, or that my girlfriend accidently added time to it when she was cleaning and I flipped out. I thought about it constantly.

I even tried to trick it by taking out the batteries, and even pushed a bit on the locking mechanism. It's quite a mind fuck. Only used it once, i don't like being teased.

 

[axe battler]

Sounds like you need one tho! Good way of keeping from using daily tho. How much are they?

 

[Xorkoth]

I got mine for like $65. I find them pretty good for stims, but not as good for opioids (I had 2 but drilled into my cheaper one once).

 

[Vagabond696]

Nice, not sure how you managed to only get 100mg unless you're just getting some off a friend or as a small sample sent along with a larger order. As negro and I have already lamented, it's a shame that vendors aren't offering smaller amounts like 250mg. They could charge just a bit less than the price for a full gram so that it would be worthwhile enough for them to send such a small amount and I would be willing to pay it. Sure it's a waste of money but it's much safer then relying on myself to handle a full gram responsibly.

I hope it goes well. A time lock safe would not be sufficient to stop me when on stims if I was determined enough, I wish they made a heavier duty version then the ones I've seen offered. But I think you'll be ok, 100mg should be enough for you to get a good feel for it if vaping but not so much that you can get yourself into too much trouble beyond a sleepless night or two.

I live in Australia where a-pihp is the only available pyrro I've found and it goes for $600 a gram so I buy a point or quarter g every now and then to enjoy recreationally because it's way too pricey for regular usage.

 

[Vagabond696]

Much excitement. Next few days off will be good times!

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Nice! Is the a-pihp/phip white or kinda off-white at least? It's hard to tell from the photo. I've heard of some "white" batch from China recently discussed but I don't know anything about it, mine is sorta a tanish color with a bit of a pinkish hue when looked at a certain way. And it's mostly a grainy powder, not a huge rock like that lol

I remember getting these gigantic crystals/rocks of apvp one time. I only wanted like 250mg but the vendor wasn't selling it in less than 3g amounts but I ordered anyways. So my 3g arrive and it turned out to be the most potent/crazy apvp ive ever had, probably actually the most potent pyrro I've had to date. The rush from a hit was just so damn intense that I knew I was in big trouble, more so than usual at least, from the very first hit I took.

Had a vacation planned with the spouse to a local casino a day or two later, which is why I only wanted a small amount so it would be used up before we needed to leave. But instead I went with that bag of powerful crystal apvp in my pocket. I can still remember the voices and hallucinations flying around me as I flushed over 2.5g worth down one of the casino toilets, it was just way too much too handle and I felt guilty anyways because I was there to be with my spouse not to be all fucked up, paranoid and trying to hide it all.

 

[negrogesic]

Nice! Is the a-pihp/phip white or kinda off-white at least? It's hard to tell from the photo. I've heard of some "white" batch from China recently discussed but I don't know anything about it, mine is sorta a tanish color with a bit of a pinkish hue when looked at a certain way. And it's mostly a grainy powder, not a huge rock like that lol

I remember getting these gigantic crystals/rocks of apvp one time. I only wanted like 250mg but the vendor wasn't selling it in less than 3g amounts but I ordered anyways. So my 3g arrive and it turned out to be the most potent/crazy apvp ive ever had, probably actually the most potent pyrro I've had to date. The rush from a hit was just so damn intense that I knew I was in big trouble, more so than usual at least, from the very first hit I took.

Had a vacation planned with the spouse to a local casino a day or two later, which is why I only wanted a small amount so it would be used up before we needed to leave. But instead I went with that bag of powerful crystal apvp in my pocket. I can still remember the voices and hallucinations flying around me as I flushed over 2.5g worth down one of the casino toilets, it was just way too much too handle and I felt guilty anyways because I was there to be with my spouse not to be all fucked up, paranoid and trying to hide it all.

I remember smoking that old a-pvp it was almost relaxing, narcotic like at high doses. Definately the most crack like of the entire class. Not quite a flooring as crack but a nice calmness to it.

 

[Vagabond696]

Off-white but brownish too. One big rock. My last order was 250mg and it came as a massive 300mg rock. I was rock hard.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I remember smoking that old a-pvp it was almost relaxing, narcotic like at high doses. Definately the most crack like of the entire class. Not quite a flooring as crack but a nice calmness to it.

I got that too sometimes but was never a reliable reaction for me. Seemed to happen the most when I was several days into a heavy run. Would feel like shit and be all twitchy and irritable and then take a big hit and this wonderful peace and calm would envelope me for awhile. Didn't just happen with apvp for me, I remember also getting it sometimes from a few of the other ones as well.

Never tried crack but I can see why people sometimes said that apvp was the closest to it.

 

[Drag2019]

Anyone got advice on a low starting dose for someone without a tolerance to stimulants in general?

 

[simstim]

I got that too sometimes but was never a reliable reaction for me. Seemed to happen the most when I was several days into a heavy run. Would feel like shit and be all twitchy and irritable and then take a big hit and this wonderful peace and calm would envelope me for awhile. Didn't just happen with apvp for me, I remember also getting it sometimes from a few of the other ones as well.

Never tried crack but I can see why people sometimes said that apvp was the closest to it.

I thought MDPV, a-PVP, and a-PHP all felt like crack with much longer legs. They vary in potency but I found their effects remarkably similar.

I'm interested in a-PHIP but a bit afraid at the same time. So far I've avoided ordering it despite it being so cheap.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

@simstim I'd love to try it (crack) one day for sure then #lifegoals

Still playing around with a-pihp. Got a 5g order from China in several weeks ago and believe it or not but I've only used a very small amount of it since, there is still like over 4.6g or so left . This is completely unheard of for me, normally I would have started vaping it immediately and would not have wanted nor been able to stop until it was all gone.

Don't get me wrong, if I were to load up a nice big pile on foil and vape it all in one go then I'd be fucked, once that rush hits there's no stopping it anymore. Even too large of an oral or nasal dose would likely do the same, but as long as I stick with small doses and keep it to no more than like 2-3 times per day then I can (seemingly) keep it in check (famous last words).

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Anyone got advice on a low starting dose for someone without a tolerance to stimula

What route were you planning to use by?

Without tolerance then start very low, too much can be very uncomfortable when you first start using pyros like these and they aren't for everybody as some people find they don't respond well and/or don't find the effects favorable. I'd suggest just starting with something like 5mg and see how it goes, then adjust up from there.

 

[negrogesic]

What route were you planning to use by?

Without tolerance then start very low, too much can be very uncomfortable when you first start using pyros like these and they aren't for everybody as some people find they don't respond well and/or don't find the effects favorable. I'd suggest just starting with something like 5mg and see how it goes, then adjust up from there.

How would compare to other cathinones? It's better than a-pcyp? How compulsive.

I'm tempted to get some but I'm afraid I'd go overboard and wind up needing benzos (which will throw off my phenibut taper). I didn't find a-pcyp too compulsive but I get a sense this stuff is more traditionally compulsive, especially if it vapes well.

How is it snorted?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

It's ok snorted, basically feels like most other pyros do? Not really functional unless very small amounts are taken occasionally, even then there are much better alternatives for this.

pyros have all felt so similar to me that it's hard for me to make any meaningful comparisons. It does have a bit of a knarly dirty/bitter taste to it that hangs around in the throat and sinuses for awhile afterwards, it's not pleasant but not too off putting either. As well as the typical semen smell once it's had a chance to hang around in the moist environment of the nasal passage for a bit.m (or when vaped and, I imagine, when freebased it probably stinks to high heaven) Wouldn't recommend snorting a line before any close conversations where the other person will be able near enough to smell your breath.

I tried a-pcyp very briefly but not enough to really remember much. Sorry, I'd like it to try it again at some point for this reason.

If you are at all worried about it's compulsiveness then I'd advise staying away. Its just a typical pyro stim and with that all that entails. Large doses are quite compuslive, when I vaped a huge pile quickly I had no control over my use until I ran out. Just like every other pyro.

In small amounts with this one I have had moderate success at stopping myself from taking more, this was almost always impossible in the past for me with previous pyros. Whether this is an actual property experienced by others I cannot say - I don't know if maybe both myself and my reaction has changed over the years as I'm much more cautious with my approach whereas in the past i was basically like "fuck it" and just let the madness ensue.

Trying to use it responsibly is just an annoying tight rope walk where all your doing is thinking about indulging in more because that's what pyros do. So you spend most of the time arguing with yourself as to why you want to do more but shouldn't. If you want to have fun/overindulge then by all means grab some and turn on the porn or whatever, otherwise I'd say pass this one by.

 

[Drag2019]

What route were you planning to use by?

Without tolerance then start very low, too much can be very uncomfortable when you first start using pyros like these and they aren't for everybody as some people find they don't respond well and/or don't find the effects favorable. I'd suggest just starting with something like 5mg and see how it goes, then adjust up from there.

I was planning to snort it but with 5mg as a dose for someone without a tolerance. I'd have to create a PG solution & use it orally or does anyone think it's possible to make a nasal spray solution out of this stuff?

 

[negrogesic]

I was planning to snort it but with 5mg as a dose for someone without a tolerance. I'd have to create a PG solution & use it orally or does anyone think it's possible to make a nasal spray solution out of this stuff?

Sure. And propylene glycol shouldn't be necessary for an oral solution, it should be freely water soluble.

 

[Drag2019]

Sure. And propylene glycol shouldn't be necessary for an oral solution, it should be freely water soluble.

Would it work to make a solution to use in a nasal spray bottle? Idk if I need to make my own thread for nasal spray solution for this & 3-MMC?

 

[negrogesic]

Would it work to make a solution to use in a nasal spray bottle? Idk if I need to make my own thread for nasal spray solution for this & 3-MMC?

In the short term it should mix fine with water, should be very soluble in water.

 

[simstim]

I was planning to snort it but with 5mg as a dose for someone without a tolerance. I'd have to create a PG solution & use it orally or does anyone think it's possible to make a nasal spray solution out of this stuff?

It sounds like you need to order a milligram scale!