Liquid GHB do's and don'ts

[Boku_]

Why does G make you fart all the time?

It's bad to mix old G with new G yes or no?

You should always use a new container to hold the G each time you purchase G yes or no?

You should always use a new measurer plunger when taking a dose from a new batch of G yes or no?

Is there good batches and bad batches of G?

Bad G will make you sleep walk and piss yourself? True or false?

 

[Fairy of the Flowers]

I have done plenty of GHB mostly 12 or so years ago but again a few times last year, not once did it make me fart or piss myself lol, go under yep, puke up yep, pass out yep but that's all

I hear the newer stuff is made differently and really bad, not done any since taking a photo of myself on G and I looked like a half dead junky bitch it scared me off it lol

@Coffeeshroom why is GHB bad these days, you said why when I bought some last year and you told me off lol

 

[Tramalala]

Why would you use a new container for a new batch of G? Just clean the previous one with water no? Don't think there will be a problem. Tbh even if you don't clean it and the previous G you had was good then I don't see the issue either.


I don't remember GHB making me fart, stomach discomfort sure. I remember phenibut giving me some bad stomach discomfort and farting at the tail-end of experiences tho. Didn't feel good. Probably smart to cut down on your use once you start to get side-effects like that. I think sleep-walking on G could always happen. I know I've sleepwalked on G and phenibut both.

Obviously bad batches of GHB exist, why would they not? Even the "easy" recipe of making GHB from GBL gets fucked up plenty of times by people that don't really care of just fuck it up. If you did everything proper though I don't see why a pure batch of (liquid or not) GHB would be bad?

 

[G_Chem]

I’m no G expert but I do know more and more folks are synthesizing it from GABA when years back it was made via other routes.

GHB/GBL made from GABA can have impurities in it which give one a headache and other nasty symptoms, plus could be carcinogenic if not purified properly as well.

This may be why it feels different.

-GC

 

[Skorpio]

I’m no G expert but I do know more and more folks are synthesizing it from GABA when years back it was made via other routes.

GHB/GBL made from GABA can have impurities in it which give one a headache and other nasty symptoms, plus could be carcinogenic if not purified properly as well.

This may be why it feels different.

-GC

Gbl was classically made through oxidation of tetrahydrofuran in the presence of a catalyst. The route from GABA involves performing the sandmeyer reaction where a diazonium salt is formed from the amine, which is attacked by water to form ghb. I have never heard that route used at scale, always thought it was more of a hobbyist level thing.

 

[G_Chem]

Gbl was classically made through oxidation of tetrahydrofuran in the presence of a catalyst. The route from GABA involves performing the sandmeyer reaction where a diazonium salt is formed from the amine, which is attacked by water to form ghb. I have never heard that route used at scale, always thought it was more of a hobbyist level thing.

Ah you may be right, I know the use of GABA to GBL Sandmeyer is becoming more common amongst hobby chemists but as you said it might not be done large scale. I figured it could be one potential culprit.

I do know that particular reaction is scalable but GABA would definitely be limiting compared to THF on an industrial level.

-GC

 

[Skorpio]

Ah you may be right, I know the use of GABA to GBL Sandmeyer is becoming more common amongst hobby chemists but as you said it might not be done large scale. I figured it could be one potential culprit.

I do know that particular reaction is scalable but GABA would definitely be limiting compared to THF on an industrial level.

-GC

Sandmeyer route also does need a good amount of workup. I honestly wonder how much ghb is simply made from diverted gbl. A 2014 WHO report on gbl stated that 185,000 metric tons are produced yearly in the United States.

 

[Boku_]

In Australia the people making G piss in it, apparently piss preserve the end product.

 

[Boku_]

Anyone from Melbourne? Apparently the whole city is in the grip of a GHB shortage.

Or am I just being impatient and there's no GHB drought in Melbourne whatsoever

 

[the_ketaman]

*If you don't have a plunger, dont do G.
*Don't redose before 2 hours.
*Don't drink or use other depressants with G.
*Test each batch.
*Each person will need a specific dose. 1.5mls will make a 50kg person blow out, for a 120kg person they may barely feel it.
*Keep an eye on mates. 3ml after a 2pt shot of ice will react very differently to 3mls 8 hours later.
*G builds up in your system.
*Try to know if it's GHB, GBL or 1,4b, they all require different dosing and have different half lives.
There is so much to know about G and not everyone listens so just do your best.
G is everyone's new DOC in NSW.

 

[the_ketaman]

I’m no G expert but I do know more and more folks are synthesizing it from GABA when years back it was made via other routes.

GHB/GBL made from GABA can have impurities in it which give one a headache and other nasty symptoms, plus could be carcinogenic if not purified properly as well.

This may be why it feels different

I wonder if that's why I got a headache last time.

Does everyone else get the whole Thick/thin thing?

 

[telepathetic]

*If you don't have a plunger, dont do G.
*Don't redose before 2 hours.
*Don't drink or use other depressants with G.
*Test each batch.
*Each person will need a specific dose. 1.5mls will make a 50kg person blow out, for a 120kg person they may barely feel it.
*Keep an eye on mates. 3ml after a 2pt shot of ice will react very differently to 3mls 8 hours later.
*G builds up in your system.
*Try to know if it's GHB, GBL or 1,4b, they all require different dosing and have different half lives.
There is so much to know about G and not everyone listens so just do your best.
G is everyone's new DOC in NSW.

Not really necessarily true, I can handle 4g and it's still mild

 

[the_ketaman]

A gram is different to a ML and GHB doses are generally higher that GBL or 14,b.

 

[andyturbo]

14b is defiantly my choice over GBL

 

[the_ketaman]

14b is defiantly my choice over GBL

Really? I'm the complete opposite!
I prefer the effect, taste and everything else about GBL over 1,4b. I think the latter is absolutely nasty shit.
GBL imo is superior to GHB other than the fact it's more harmful.

 

[andyturbo]

Really? I'm the complete opposite!
I prefer the effect, taste and everything else about GBL over 1,4b. I think the latter is absolutely nasty shit.
GBL imo is superior to GHB other than the fact it's more harmful.

Thats really interesting! Although I know in Sydney GBL is pretty popular, it was like that when I lived in Brisbane also.

Yeah that's weird maybe because I'm used to 1,4 (that's 95% of the G in Melbourne) I love the taste and love getting frozen bottles at room temp (the novelty or defrosting pure shit i love!)

 

[Jabberwocky]

Did anybody mention that there is a GHB test kit (EZ Test) available for about $12 from just about any tobacconist in SYdney?

 

[andyturbo]

Did anybody mention that there is a GHB test kit (EZ Test) available for about $12 from just about any tobacconist in SYdney?

Wow thats the first ive heard of that, cool! does it test for the more common 1,4b and gbl also?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Wow thats the first ive heard of that, cool! does it test for the more common 1,4b and gbl also?

Not sure what else it tests for. But most EZ-Test kits test for multiple substances (You use the MDMA one for example to test for Meth). Unfortunately they don’t reveal which reagent is in each kit so it’s hard to know what else they are good for.

 

[Snafu in the Void]

14b is defiantly my choice over GBL

Why's that? Just curious.

I have only done GHB never GBL or 14b, but, naturally since the latter are easier to source I've always been curious.

The fact that GHB is not euphoric or libido inducing for me always stopped me. :'( honestly breaks my heart some people get that effect and I do not :'( the way some people describe GHB it sounds like the perfect drug in existence for me - but it's not