Stimulants Meth: is this even meth?!

[Namaste6645]

Hello, I’m brand new to this but I’ve been looking at this site for years now. I finally decided to join and I’m looking forward to the advice. I have felt pretty alone for a while now! Okay, I am almost 32 and I used meth for the first time at 19…I think. I got extremely addicted to roxys and shooting up whichever one I could get a hold of (my baby’s father was an addict too but also a paramedic so that was easy) I lived in such denial about my “drug of choice” because I always claimed opiates but recently I’ve thought about it and I have always circled back to meth. Anyway, I’m sorry I get to rambling! Back then the meth gave me euphoria and my pupils would be huge, which I did not like at all. I enjoyed talking and chatting it up with whoever I was with. I have been out of that area for a while now but before I moved to where I am now I had started using it again but it was much different. Maybe it felt like…a small dose of adderall..? It was not at all the same and I had not used it in a couple of years. I’ve had clean time here and there throughout the years. I started using again once I found people down here that use. It was just like the last time I used it back home. There is no euphoria at all, I have just a faint energy but I can just go to sleep. I got paranoid very very bad and that’s it. It was me becoming the person that I did not know and I hate to admit this but I got a case of meth mites and I absolutely believed with everything in me that something was wrong and we had bugs. I’m ashamed. I even went to the ER once at 1:00 in the morning and they gave me Ativan while I was there and a prescription because of the way I was acting. I guess I’m trying to figure out why it is that I can’t feel any sort of high on it and certainly no euphoria or clenched jaws. I only almost got myself put in a mental institution but there was no actual high. Can anyone help me? Is this just where I live and it’s not meth at all now? Thank you to anyone that read my rambling on and on. I appreciate the ability to ask other people what they think from their experiences and I absolutely appreciate that this site exists and I can be myself. Have a good night/morning!

 

[axe battler]

Could partially be tolerance. You can tell by the rather large block of text that you're stimulated a little on something... No offence
It sounds like you're also likely getting shitty weak meth tbh. I would try and source it elsewhere or try and quit altogether. The latter option certainly being the wisest choice. Could be a case of "meth these days" I've heard of people blaming cartels with absolutely no morals and desperate people buying anything crystalline.
People also can get a permanent tolerance to some drugs where they no longer seem to get any of the good old effects from them. Happened to me with benzos... Perhaps you've been hitting the meth too hard and too long?

 

[Namaste6645]

Could partially be tolerance. You can tell by the rather large block of text that you're stimulated a little on something... No offence
It sounds like you're also likely getting shitty weak meth tbh. I would try and source it elsewhere or try and quit altogether. The latter option certainly being the wisest choice. Could be a case of "meth these days" I've heard of people blaming cartels with absolutely no morals and desperate people buying anything crystalline.
People also can get a permanent tolerance to some drugs where they no longer seem to get any of the good old effects from them. Happened to me with benzos... Perhaps you've been hitting the meth too hard and too long?

I really believe I get a tolerance for things super fast. I’ve been using on and off for a very long time and it takes no time for me to be super tolerant and I always need more. It sucks!!

 

[CrimsonQueenx]

Hey all, same with me. Smoked for the first time when i was 25. Really got addicted to it. My addiction to it was so bad i almost fucked up my life. I realized it one morning after a 24 hour high. Flush everything i had. Stayed clean for close to 12 years. 3 weeks ago started again. But the high isn't the same. Yes it keeps me up, keeps me focused. The new stuff i got makes me so nauseous. Any help??

 

[jasperkent]

Maybe y'all need to get this stuff tested, like this guy did:

Florida man asks police to test meth for authenticity

Officers said they would be happy to test the authenticity of illegal narcotics for anyone else who might be questioning what they purchased.

www.nbcnews.com

Just kidding! DO NOT do that!!!

Edit: I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone that this happened in Florida.

 

[CrimsonQueenx]

Lol Nah i will pass just maybe get a new dealer....

 

[etherbunny800]

The prevailing form of meth we have today is complete garbage compared to what you were probably used to. Right now the market is saturated with the same low quality cartel crap comes from the same labs, is made differently, and comes out differently. I'm not a chemist, I didn't even take chemistry in high school, so I don't know any buzz words or lingo. But the stuff today is like the other side of a coin from what it was just 7 or 8 years ago. You can't even compare today's meth to what was available in the late 90s.

 

[Shnitzel]

I'm in Philadelphia area and have only had this weird meth referenced once and fake MSM shit once. Meanwhile I'm getting it off da of blacks from Kensington, you'd think it'd be garbage. Hell no! And since they love to take Adderall to hustle long hours, it's price is up there for $1 a gram, I give them 10 Adderall 30mg IR for 3 .5g of ice. I get 60 adderalls a month so I get about 21g of ice for free every month. And the shit is GOOD. I'll be surprised if I go through more than 2g in a week staying lit 24)7 except the 2 days I sleep. The euphoria with them s is bananas I get raging hard on a from text messages and masterbate loads that shoot up over my shoulder like 7 times a night

 

[Shnitzel]

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Are you on any other meds?

Some certain psychiatric medicines can block euphoria from recreational drugs.

Also, what's your diet like, etc?? In order for meth to produce euphoria, you'll have to have enough neurotransmitters in the brain.

Could be that you just had shitty meth with the levo isomer in it.


Be careful. I was once given what I believe to be rat poison (strychnine, which is also a stimulant). It looked exactly like meth crystals, except it smelled funny. I knew it wasn't real meth because doing it was not making me horny. And meth should not have a smell. It was given to me by some fat perv, who I refused to sleep with. I also developed hyperreflexia where I couldn't stop moving my limbs & body. I've never had that happen to me on meth before. I then tried to research what the hell these crystals could have actually been & strychnine was the closest thing I could find. I felt like I was going to have convulsions & luckily had enough benzos on had to stop them every time one would come. I threw the rest of that "meth" away & I would never throw drugs away. If I had kept taking more of it, I could have had respiratory paralysis & then died. There are some fucked up people out there & a lot of dangerous shit can look identical to meth in crystalline form.

 

[Csmooth619]

So coincidentally i just turned 33 on june 15, i barely started using meth oh id say maybe 2 years now so needless to say i haven't had that luxury of trying that bacc in the day meth og users love to brag about. My drugs of choice or mostly opiates,i started with really using them right before the meth so maybe 3 years and went from prescription pills to heroin to fentanyl aka fetti where im from, i get great quality powdered fetti with generally speaking the limited amount of cut. So i used the meth to kind of balance out the sedation of the fetti, i try my damn hardest not to shoot fetti for obvious reasons but rarely will mix a tiny amount with a overpowering amount of meth to ensure no overdose to the best of my ability,i dont really care much for smoking meth,i will if there arent any rigs\needles available but anyways there is still some decent meth the closer to the border you get of course, i live in San Diego, literally a border town with Mexico in California,so we get shit before it gets to stepped on,man lately there is some yellow meth going that is knocc your fuccen soccs off,amazing especially if shot,so id like to say youre just getting bullshit meth, the rush usually only with shooting but either way the feeling is intense like almost like an ecstasy excitement feeling,like whooaa feeling almost makes you gasp depending on how much you use,almost no paranoia,amazing levels of energy but not overwhelming to where you have anxiety,i dont know how else to describe it but amazing stuff. They call ir lemon drop and who knows could just be a fire ass batch with food coloring who knows but nonetheless it sounds less like tolerance and more like shitty meth,try finding a new source and see if the negative effects continue. The only negative effects i notice period is i literally turn into Austin Powers in terms of horniness lmao, my girlfriend and pornhub are my best friends and i guess the slight difficulty to cum but it makes for an explosive climax once its reached.hope you can find some decent if not head down to San Diego and its really hard to miss,there are exceptions of course but much easier o find then states up north from what if heard and from friends that have moved. Good lucc

 

[Atomic_Decay]

I have been using meth regularly for a couple of years. I tend to go on a binge for a few weeks/months and then take a rest/tolerance break for the same amount of time. i’ve also been using stims on and off, mainly IV until a year ago, for 30 years.

I have been buying the same meth for 3 years. By the ounce from the same person. The many people I’ve shared it with all proclaim it is A+ and beg to buy some - no chance of that.

Anyway , at the beginning of a binge 2 points of this stuff keeps me awake, mentally clear, fully coherent, and as horny as fuck for about 48 hours. At the end of that time I still need some kind of sedative to sleep (and stop the relentless fucking/masturbating).

3 or 4 weeks of relentless use later and I can smoke the stuff non stop all day - right up until 5 minutes to bedtime - and I’m sleeping like a baby 20 minutes later.

Tolerance is a bitch and over your lifetime your threshold gets lower and lower with every session you have.

 

[Eligiu]

I have been using meth regularly for a couple of years. I tend to go on a binge for a few weeks/months and then take a rest/tolerance break for the same amount of time. i’ve also been using stims on and off, mainly IV until a year ago, for 30 years.

I have been buying the same meth for 3 years. By the ounce from the same person. The many people I’ve shared it with all proclaim it is A+ and beg to buy some - no chance of that.

Anyway , at the beginning of a binge 2 points of this stuff keeps me awake, mentally clear, fully coherent, and as horny as fuck for about 48 hours. At the end of that time I still need some kind of sedative to sleep (and stop the relentless fucking/masturbating).

3 or 4 weeks of relentless use later and I can smoke the stuff non stop all day - right up until 5 minutes to bedtime - and I’m sleeping like a baby 20 minutes later.

Tolerance is a bitch and over your lifetime your threshold gets lower and lower with every session you have.

Yeah this is the truth. I started using meth in 2016 and there was definitely something different about it then. I developed a tolerance pretty quickly the next year once I finally figured out how to shoot up myself instead of relying on a friend to do it for me and pretty soon I needed close to half a gram a day (I wasn't using every day, I'd use for the first 5 or so days after I got paid with meth and codeine or heroin if I could get it then smoke weed the second week to tide me across because I couldn't afford enough to last a full two weeks). My last two weeks of using I used almost a gram a day in the end before I went to rehab. During a four year period I probably used 8-10 times, spaced 3-9 months apart (I just couldn't break that one year mark until 2021) until eventually I made it 18 months. Each time I used during that period it was still good quality, except for once at the beginning of covid.

When I relapsed in December it still gave me the euphoric effects at around a 1.5-2p dose when I started out (I have a naturally high tolerance due to my medical conditions and prescription for dexamphetamine) but within around a month I fucked my tolerance by doing 4p in a night then I needed at least that to get a good rush. Eventually I fucked my tolerance again around 2 months ago by doing a gram in a night.

I bought a point tonight and it's kept me awake all night but my tolerance is still not back to baseline. Tolerance is a real bitch and it sneaks up on you very fast.

@Atomic_Decay as an aside, how long would you recommend waiting to get my tolerance back to something approaching baseline given I was using half a gram once to twice a week but not getting any rush (IV) to a month later, bearing in mind the cross tolerance for dexamphetamine? Should I wait 2-3 months instead?

 

[Atomic_Decay]

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@Atomic_Decay as an aside, how long would you recommend waiting to get my tolerance back to something approaching baseline given I was using half a gram once to twice a week but not getting any rush (IV) to a month later, bearing in mind the cross tolerance for dexamphetamine? Should I wait 2-3 months instead?

Hello @Eligiu. To be honest, I believe it is next to impossible for a heavy user, especially an injector, to get back to baseline. How near to it you can get with a long break is a ‘how long is a piece of string’ kind of question. Age, use patterns, intensity, cumulative duration of effect, cumulative periods of abstinence, potential (and I think very likely) impact of neurogenic drugs like anti-psychotic meds…etc etc will all have an impact.

Also, there are different components to a meth high. You can be tolerant to one part but still enjoy others. For example rush vs euphoria, vs cognitive sharpening, vs sexual arousal, vs physical endurance etc etc - when people here complain about weak meth / tolerance they rarely ever break this down.

I began injecting stims (goey) around 30 years ago and for a long time maintained kind of ‘6-12 month - ON’ followed by ‘3-5 year - OFF’ pattern (not counting a 6 month adventure with near daily MDMA and another tragic 6 month clusterfuck with daily IV cocaine).

About 7 years ago I had my very first IV meth bender. It was after about one year clean from my IV coke misadventure. During this clean period I was put on AP’s for the first time. I would say I got about 50% of my original baseline (from decades previously) and almost zero aphrodisiac effect.

Then after a 4 year abstinence break from all drugs except Abilify and low-dose prescribed dexamfetamine, I had another crack at IV meth (from the very same supplier I depend on until this very day). All I recall is that 2 points sent me to close to 80 % of baseline AND made me masturbate compulsively for 12 hours - which was a brand new thing for me on drugs I can assure you.

Since that time even a complete break for 4 months has only ever resulted in me getting to back around 60 % of baseline at best - although the overall effect is also different and definitely more somatic than cerebral/cognitive than it ever was for me back in the day.

I no longer inject anything (except IM ketamine) and take regular breaks for health and safety reasons and to ensure my life never unravels again.

All that said, I have recently learned through personal experience and close observation of several meth-fiend lovers that in terms of euphoria at least it is possible for some very tolerant people to far surpass their original baseline with the judicious use of modest amounts of some psychedelics. If done carefully, even at sub-psychedelic dose.

 

[Bowl𝔐𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰areяєαℓ]

The prevailing form of meth we have today is complete garbage compared to what you were probably used to. Right now the market is saturated with the same low quality cartel crap comes from the same labs, is made differently, and comes out differently. I'm not a chemist, I didn't even take chemistry in high school, so I don't know any buzz words or lingo. But the stuff today is like the other side of a coin from what it was just 7 or 8 years ago. You can't even compare today's meth to what was available in the late 90s.

I am a 41 yr old with a past that has more than my share of all substances not glorify any of it and for reference purposes. I’ve been to prison six times. I have a four year degree in environmental biology, I serve in the military 10 years, and I am a good looking guy in fairly good shape with a beautiful woman so yeah you can manage but it will get you in the end. Real even highly cut Meth can and will get you High. Your eyes will get all fisheyed up (large pupils) And as long as you eat and more importantly keep yourself drinking water you will be fine. Now I said all that to say this I recently moved and found myself in a new state. Swim was a friend of a friend and that person was a mid level dealer a stay at moms house when your mid 40s type. Anyways swim decided they wanted to get a amount unknown of crystal meth in ice form. They exchange went off and the normal amount and slightly better then Expected Ice was used over a 5 day period with no sleep and but good amounts of water so I am told. Well that same person was contacted by swim to repeat the transaction. Swim went and did the deal and they explained to me that the product was kinda wet and a bit yellow. The taste of the shards on the Tongue we’re off and the stuff was to clear and brittal quality according to them was a dead give away. Swim told me that it was simple to test meth with bleach and or washing it with Acetone. But this is a totally different productI am thinking the acetone would not work and I truely have no amount of energy this stuff was tried by swim and they were almost passed out by the time the bowl cooled down. This was give multiple try’s and swim and then another person experience was all nite nite nods. So family of friends and friends of the family can you school up your boy on how I should help whom ever with what this is what properly will wash it and is it safe. Rapeseed oil has been added to something but idk help who know this trick

 

[Bowl𝔐𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰areяєαℓ]

Is that brittle and have a kinda of wet on the inside of the thing going on? It almost looks like this bs that swim came across

 

[Shnitzel]

Is that brittle and have a kinda of wet on the inside of the thing going on? It almost looks like this bs that swim came across

I gave up judging it by how it looks. I just stick with the same plug who always has good shit or will replace anything I complain about. Swim has been trading 30 adderalls for a half ounce every month (the adds are $30 a piece in Philadelphia.)

I just took 2 weeks off and hopped back on today. I'm blasted off about 0.3

The best thing you can do is get a sample and melt it down. It should liquify into a clear oil at about 250f and when you remove the flame it should recrystallize in 10, 12 seconds.

 

[Shnitzel]

Here's my shit melted and prior

 

[Dtuc17]

This sounds like long term brain changes or tolerance. I see this all over this site I've used meth here and there for 10yrs . There's no difference now besides a mild Perma tolerance no matter how long the break. The DEA posts results of siezed meth it's almost always 95% pure + from what I remember

 

[HigherDenGiraffeNuttz]

Hello, I’m brand new to this but I’ve been looking at this site for years now. I finally decided to join and I’m looking forward to the advice. I have felt pretty alone for a while now! Okay, I am almost 32 and I used meth for the first time at 19…I think. I got extremely addicted to roxys and shooting up whichever one I could get a hold of (my baby’s father was an addict too but also a paramedic so that was easy) I lived in such denial about my “drug of choice” because I always claimed opiates but recently I’ve thought about it and I have always circled back to meth. Anyway, I’m sorry I get to rambling! Back then the meth gave me euphoria and my pupils would be huge, which I did not like at all. I enjoyed talking and chatting it up with whoever I was with. I have been out of that area for a while now but before I moved to where I am now I had started using it again but it was much different. Maybe it felt like…a small dose of adderall..? It was not at all the same and I had not used it in a couple of years. I’ve had clean time here and there throughout the years. I started using again once I found people down here that use. It was just like the last time I used it back home. There is no euphoria at all, I have just a faint energy but I can just go to sleep. I got paranoid very very bad and that’s it. It was me becoming the person that I did not know and I hate to admit this but I got a case of meth mites and I absolutely believed with everything in me that something was wrong and we had bugs. I’m ashamed. I even went to the ER once at 1:00 in the morning and they gave me Ativan while I was there and a prescription because of the way I was acting. I guess I’m trying to figure out why it is that I can’t feel any sort of high on it and certainly no euphoria or clenched jaws. I only almost got myself put in a mental institution but there was no actual high. Can anyone help me? Is this just where I live and it’s not meth at all now? Thank you to anyone that read my rambling on and on. I appreciate the ability to ask other people what they think from their experiences and I absolutely appreciate that this site exists and I can be myself. Have a good night/morning!

Well when it comes to meth... Buddy usually if you have to ask yourself "is this real meth?" Then something went very wrong with it. Even after procuring a massive meth addiction myself, after a little week or two rest, lots of food and liquids I could still get fly (way way less then when I first started) BUT I never had to question if it was real meth or not.

Chances are you got some that had some mishap during the manufacturing process. That could explain the meth mite feeling and any really bad brain-fog or generally unwell/sickly feelings. Some byproducts/cuts/unreacted chemicals can all cause an abundance of side effects with very little ideal effects.

Hope that helps. Maybe post a picture of your gear. That can help. Usually if there is giant rocks that break into powder when cruahed, quick sign that your gear is some bullshit