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RCs 2-FMA (2-Fluoromethamphetamine) - Megathread

Buzz Lightbeer said:
The problem with 2-FMA is that it's really only recreational at the start ime, and it lasts a looong time
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Yeah I just realized that I prefer good ol' street speed for long, dirty porn sessions. 2-FMA is awesome for chores and studying though. Currently reading Morals & Dogma by Albert Pike and that stuff is deep af! He was truly in tune with the great architect of the universe!
 
Read this whole damn thread. From my research 2-Fma seems like it’s the miracle substance for deep study/focus if used appropriately.. Ie. oral ROA and within recommended dosage. There is only two vague references though to reagent testing.

Results I received:

Marquis: bright yellow
Mecke: brownish-yellow
Mandelin: greenish-yellow

Any thoughts or opinions are very much appreciated. Thanks
 
altoid30249 said:
Read this whole damn thread. From my research 2-Fma seems like it’s the miracle substance for deep study/focus if used appropriately.. Ie. oral ROA and within recommended dosage. There is only two vague references though to reagent testing.

Results I received:

Marquis: bright yellow
Mecke: brownish-yellow
Mandelin: greenish-yellow

Any thoughts or opinions are very much appreciated. Thanks
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It's really good for finals/exams/papers when used sparingly. It's the sole reason I ever graduated, although I did turn out to have ADHD so the difference probably was larger for me.
A couple of friends would use it during exam periods and would describe it as 'cheating' because they would get twice as much work done in a day. The miracle effect does wear off so extended breaks are necessary to retain the "miracle drug for emergencies" status.

I have no idea when it comes to reagent results. All I know is that there must be two different synth methods that result in 2-FMA with different effects. One is very strong and long (and can be quite addicting), the other drops off early and lacks strength in general (although it's probably still 2-FMA). I can spot (and taste) the difference between the two from the powder, the "bad one" is much more sticky.
 
altoid30249 said:
Read this whole damn thread. From my research 2-Fma seems like it’s the miracle substance for deep study/focus if used appropriately.. Ie. oral ROA and within recommended dosage. There is only two vague references though to reagent testing.

Results I received:

Marquis: bright yellow
Mecke: brownish-yellow
Mandelin: greenish-yellow

Any thoughts or opinions are very much appreciated. Thanks
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Just as update on researching reagent testing for 2-Fma. drugsdata.org has the most conclusive evidence that I could find:

Marquis: light yellow-grey
Mecke: no reaction
Mandelin: no reaction (orange)
 
Been a long time without entering the site..
well, just came to say that I dislike so much 2-fma, specially the last batch I got, such a shit you cannot even believe how frustrating it feels.. I tried several times, the first time, orally was semi-useful, but it has something that it makes it addictive which I swear other batches hadn't... I ended up binging 3/4 times I used, 2 grams, still going.
It's so incredibly frustrating because you get zombified, like it had any other stuff (not having money at the moment to test anything seriously) probably a benzo? don't know.

I get that 2-fma has that distinctive anxyolitic effect but this is more brain-dead or brain-dread feeling, I really hate it. Wanted to use it for studying, it worked once, the first day I used (in like years, without any stim tolerance). Then I got some kind of concerning side effects that really resemble fluorine intoxication (been reading for hours and it made total sense) and they are symptoms I didn't have the first batch I got in 2017.

Other subtance I had with this purchase was 4f-mph which was also so weak compared to the first batch I got, but at least it was devoid of concerning side effects apart from typical mph anxiety and restlessness.
The brain-dead feeling on 2-fma also brought something I didn't like at all, more than a week of insomnia, not like the first day but so disturbing.. to the point of considering going to a hospital to get some benzo script (thing that I would hate to do since I'm very into herbs that generally work like ashwagandha or scutellaria). I feel like this substance/batch fries you brain in some way, very creepy shit. In fact it has half-convinced me not to get any RC ever, except for some tryptamines and perhaps other psychs.
 
2fa is infinitely better than 2fma. 2fa is even better than adderall — so smooth. i flushed it after a couple weeks because of cardiotoxicity reports. into healthy hearts.
 
hydroazuanacaine said:
2fa is infinitely better than 2fma. 2fa is even better than adderall — so smooth. i flushed it after a couple weeks because of cardiotoxicity reports. into healthy hearts.
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I actually prefer 2-fa I'm not completely sure why the heck I purchased 2-fma, probably because I considered that the long lasting effects would make it less reinforcing and addictive, I was totally wrong. Well, maybe if the batch I have now was as good as the last one, then it could be quite different, but the reality is that is much worse and much more reinforcing so 2-fa would have been a much sustainable option, you redose 2-4 times in a day of working (writing things for university at the moment) and you can end up sleeping....which is NOT the case with 2-fma.

btw, it has 0 euphoria so it's pretty confusing as a psychoactive substance... 2-fa has a clear rush when done nasal.
 
2-FA was weird for me, I got a gram from a reputable vendor, and ended up doing the whole thing in one night, looking for something good or interesting... never found it. I felt something, but it was strange and wasn't really stimulating much at all. I don't know if I got a bad batch or what, but it wasn't doing it for me.

The 4-sub amphetamines are much better IMO. 4-FA is a classic, a great cross between a roll and a speedy high. 4-FMA is great too, like a more serotonergic meth.
 
Need to talk again against this NL batch of 2-fma,
Today is my birthday but I didn't really want to get into hard stuff like some MiPTs I have around (and I barely have any hard stuff in my stash at the moment..) so I think I could try again the 2-fma I had with a "little" IN dose of like 20-40mg.
It has been a mistake,
I was sleepy and not very happy to begin with but after the burn I started to get really moody and dysphoric, I don't even remember when I got this dysphoric (maybe a-php comedowns, years ago). I wanted to be more "up", but I almost get asleep, surely couldn't because the only thing this does is promoting wakefulness..
I needed to go to my bed for a while, feeling so incredibly tired. I thought it was due to high doses when binging... but no, this batch is pure shit and who knows if it's not cut with something else (I'll test when having the means).
Even with that dose I'm getting vasoconstriction and low level anxiety now that I'm "coming down" so to speak.
Be very careful with the typical NL vendor (the one who has most substances..), their stuff is getting worse each day, specially with stims.
 
Neuroborean said:
Need to talk again against this NL batch of 2-fma,
Today is my birthday but I didn't really want to get into hard stuff like some MiPTs I have around (and I barely have any hard stuff in my stash at the moment..) so I think I could try again the 2-fma I had with a "little" IN dose of like 20-40mg.
It has been a mistake,
I was sleepy and not very happy to begin with but after the burn I started to get really moody and dysphoric, I don't even remember when I got this dysphoric (maybe a-php comedowns, years ago). I wanted to be more "up", but I almost get asleep, surely couldn't because the only thing this does is promoting wakefulness..
I needed to go to my bed for a while, feeling so incredibly tired. I thought it was due to high doses when binging... but no, this batch is pure shit and who knows if it's not cut with something else (I'll test when having the means).
Even with that dose I'm getting vasoconstriction and low level anxiety now that I'm "coming down" so to speak.
Be very careful with the typical NL vendor (the one who has most substances..), their stuff is getting worse each day, specially with stims.
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I must say that there's a possibility that this last horrible experience of mine with 2-fma on 22th june could have been influenced by the fact that I started with covid symptoms around 26-27 june so there's the possibility that I already had sars-cov-2 circulating in my body (without causing symptoms yet) around 22th june,
maybe that was the reason I had such a bad experience (totally dysphoric and exhausting) with only 20-40mg of 2-fma.
Is not something that could be proven, but makes some sense to me...

In anycase I didn't use that batch again and I'm happy of it, it was such a shitty 2-fma. Since then I've read in another forum that some people wanted to get 2-fma from other vendors and those vendors told a guy that the current 2-fma batch was "not ok", but well, who knows if that's real or not, what's so sure is that the batch I got is sketchy and shitty as fuck.
Oh God, I hope I could get proper adhd medication asap....
 
Seems that no one is interested in this substance lately (for what concerns me, I totally understand)
I'm finishing a master thesis and waiting for NEP to come, I have my 4f-mph somewhere else so I needed to use 2-fma again,
I sniffed 2 little lines in the course of 2 hours, ..
Honestly I cannot bear non-euphoric stims, it's like, where's the happiness man? it doesn't motivate me if I don't have any euphoria, it's so cold it's boring as fuck
Cold dopamine is just a way to procrastinate more, having ADHD, so I consider it to be rubbish even for adhd...
If you redose too much, then it's useless, tweaky but braindead, without euphoria,
it's honestly the worst functional stimulant I tried, because you know, the norepinephrine reup-inhibition of 4f-mph makes it more pushing than this, 2-fma is not-pushy, completely not pushy and non euphoric, so I don't want to work on something boring AS FUCK while on it, it doesn't seem less boring

for me less boring = Euphoria, there's no other way.
That's why good kratom motivates much more, or even NEP or 3-mmc, you're floating, maybe you want to do something fun, but I can control myself if I'm feeling some euphoria, not just laser-focused on anything. With boring stims I just feel dull as fuck, not depressed, but not motivated,I just feel : whatever...
I think I will try 3-FA next time.
 
Xorkoth said:
Maybe you can add some kratom to it? Ever tried that?
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yep, in fact is the only time I enjoy it, with a good bunch of kratom over it, then it's even a bit euphoric.
like... I would say, most stimulants, yohimbe and kratom are like strawberries and cream.
 
it would be great if people said which country they are in. If only UK to UK, what a dream come true that would be
 
Quite nice stimulant, euphoric and pretty long lasting. But. Comedown have me tics and restless legs very badly. I also cursed and yelled uncontrollably. It lasted few hours.
 
Isavela said:
Quite nice stimulant, euphoric and pretty long lasting. But. Comedown have me tics and restless legs very badly. I also cursed and yelled uncontrollably. It lasted few hours.
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you're lucky you found a good batch, I don't trust anyone at the moment in terms of vendors, I fear using some sort of venom or contaminated crap, lately, when thinking about ordering RCs, specially stims.
 
Neuroborean said:
Honestly I cannot bear non-euphoric stims, it's like, where's the happiness man? it doesn't motivate me if I don't have any euphoria, it's so cold it's boring as fuck
Cold dopamine is just a way to procrastinate more, having ADHD, so I consider it to be rubbish even for adhd...
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for me less boring = Euphoria, there's no other way.
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Task-starting and sustained attention are different beasts for sure. When I was finishing my dissertation, dextroamphetamine definitely provided both, along with some of the mood lift, bordering on euphoria. The mood lift makes starting tasks less daunting, and the tunnel vision/hyperfocus help keep effort consistent.

Are you saying you think 2-FMA is worse for you because it's a stronger dopamine releaser? My understanding has been, lacking actual binding profile studies, racemic 2-FMA is probably actually a stronger NE releaser than d-amph, which in turn is stronger than d-meth. I haven't seen anyone even speculate as to enantiomer-specific activity of 2-FMA, but pulling things out of thin air, I would guess, as with meth, the l-enantiomer of 2-FMA is extremely biased towards NE, and the d-enantiomer is more balanced. This would explain the apparent ceiling effect of 2-FMA. Since reports are that high doses increase vasoconstriction and tachycardia without more central stimulation, it would make sense that racemic 2-FMA, which as far as I know is all anyone has ever taken (correct me if I'm wrong), would be NE biased as a single drug. 2-FMA is also less associated with psychosis and mania in user reports, which suggests less dopamine bias. This could all be complicated by metabolism—there's a paper on plausible metabolites of 2-FMA, but as with its binding potency, the literature is sparse.

I do agree that dopamine release is not strictly better for ADHD pharmacotherapeutics. Most anecdotes I've read about attempts to use d-meth for ADHD suggest that it can be counterproductive, but more so because of the heightened euphoria. I view mood lift as something that needs to be optimized: enough to overcome task anxiety and increase task enjoyment, but not so much you stop worrying at all about the actual life obligation ADHD is interfering with. I also personally wonder if the apparent anxiolysis along with more subtle stimulation of 2-FMA might be due to interactions with sigma receptors, or maybe a relative lack thereof compared to meth. Since 2-FMA is unlikely to be enough of a cash cow to merit clinical trials, and hasn't been the subject of alarmist media reporting, I think the motivation to do binding assays on it is weak, and so insight about its pharmacology is likely to continue only at a trickle.

Good luck in any case with your research and writing. It's not the easiest thing for those of us with ADHD diagnoses, and optimizing medication goes a long way to help with that.
 
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