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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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ok ragazzi, pensavo che il sito si sarebbe tradotto in italiano. perché si traduce direttamente per me. Mi hanno fatto 2 iniezioni xeplion nel luglio 2021. Sono quasi morto per la 1 iniezione ma mi hanno dato la seconda. Premetto che non ho pisciare. me l'hanno fatto per un momento di rabbia. Ho guadagnato 15 kg in pochi giorni. mille effetti collaterali tra cui l'insonnia di cui già soffrivo. dopo 10 mesi sono anche peggio dell'inizio. Non capisco perché invece di migliorare peggioro. forse colpa dello stilnox che uso anche di giorno per calmarmi. ma sento che i sintomi sono di invega. perché stiamo parlando di guarigione in 1 anno ma questo non sta accadendo? soprattutto sai cosa può succedere a una persona che non ha la psicosi?
 
Friends’ medication has been reduced from 150ml to 75ml mthly injection & just wondering if taking oral meds would make a significant difference? Still lacking feeling emotions, no motivation, memory loss, lost appetite & insomnia! Also, if/when you stop taking it altogether will this all go away considering the half-life of the drug etc. Please send hope ~ is there a light @ the end of this tunnel…
 
emotionalnumb said:
Friends’ medication has been reduced from 150ml to 75ml mthly injection & just wondering if taking oral meds would make a significant difference? Still lacking feeling emotions, no motivation, memory loss, lost appetite & insomnia! Also, if/when you stop taking it altogether will this all go away considering the half-life of the drug etc. Please send hope ~ is there a light @ the end of this tunnel…
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After you stop taking it probably gonna take you in average 12 months to recover fully from what some people say.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
I remember how it was before, it was not boring at all. I could enjoy meditation for 10h in a row, now I can't even do it for 5min and cant enjoy it at all. Before I could enjoy a lot by playing video games for hours. Before I could enjoy a lot by watching movies or shows. Before I could enjoy a lot by making stuff related to my profession AND be deeply satisfied. Before I had motivation to do new stuff and train my body and I liked training actualy. Before I was very confortable in my skin. And many more stuff. Before I didn't even want to go to sleep how good was life. Before I could enjoy nature. Now life sucks ass and its only pain and suffering. So dont say bullshits like this, my life was very satisfying before. I was man of many plans and ideas and I was always working on some project I choosed, I always had something to do and was very motivated to do so, NOW 0. Only thing that I'm living for is to recover fully.

Before invega I never had insomnia and so bad chest pains.
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I'm starting to worry that all those recovery stories are mostly minimal recoveries and that almost nobody recovers 70%+. From what @Paula10 was saying it seems like she never fully recovered. Also there are many similar stories.
 
I am 4 months off and I feel truly bad. I feel worse than ever. I have an inarticulated suffering. I would not call it anhedonia, anhedonia has been there all the way is like a suffering. In bed I am better but even in bed is not good
 
Nina2021 said:
I am 4 months off and I feel truly bad. I feel worse than ever. I have an inarticulated suffering. I would not call it anhedonia, anhedonia has been there all the way is like a suffering. In bed I am better but even in bed is not good
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For ones who can't do anything and just lay in bed doing nothing. I suggest walking in circles in house/apartment for hours, it is better option, and works better for me. It is also considered good exercise if you do it for hours.
 
Nowadays the fear of relapse is haunting me...is there anyway to be aware off you know that youre in pscyhosis? I mean without using antipsychotics can you get out from psychosis when it happens...ı know its not that easy to fall inti psychosis but still i feel fear its really suck and waste of time..now im just only using lamictal ...
 
n3ophy7e said:
Amazing honey, you are an inspiration <3
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t_xeplionhell said:
So how many months until anhedonia went away fully. Can you say your anhedonia progress timeline.
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9 mos start to glimmer some negative feelings
12 mos watched a movie and enjoyed it
13 mos felt dopamine & adrenaline from smash bros online
14 mos had an internship was making friends but still very quiet, hard to talk, but starting to feel "recovered"
15 mos started focusing on numerology, news again, tried to medicate with alcohol, psychotic relapse
2 years start to feel the spirit in church again
3 years start to paint again, many new friends, feel as if was never on invega
semperaltius4r said:
@Kaatrina did your functioning fully recover; Did this come back too?
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intelligence came back, I started school at 9 mo ths off and got As. My vocabulary and intuition came fully back, I was completely retarded on invega but I am missing no faculties now
emotionalnumb said:
Friends’ medication has been reduced from 150ml to 75ml mthly injection & just wondering if taking oral meds would make a significant difference? Still lacking feeling emotions, no motivation, memory loss, lost appetite & insomnia! Also, if/when you stop taking it altogether will this all go away considering the half-life of the drug etc. Please send hope ~ is there a light @ the end of this tunnel…
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Pills have a milder effect and are much easir to recover from, yes it will take at least a year to recover from injections
t_xeplionhell said:
I'm starting to worry that all those recovery stories are mostly minimal recoveries and that almost nobody recovers 70%+. From what @Paula10 was saying it seems like she never fully recovered. Also there are many similar stories.
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Paula10 was on other APs. If you dig into it you will find that the horror stories of thise who never recovered don't share with you that they continue to be on Zyprexa or risperidone etc
Risingson8 said:
Nowadays the fear of relapse is haunting me...is there anyway to be aware off you know that youre in pscyhosis? I mean without using antipsychotics can you get out from psychosis when it happens...ı know its not that easy to fall inti psychosis but still i feel fear its really suck and waste of time..now im just only using lamictal ...
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The fear and stress of this can drive you mad because there is no good answer. On my second psychosis my brother and friend tried to convince me out if it, and I could see myself wanting to get out of it, but I could not...when you are psychotic everything has a "meaning" , and you can't stop focusing on it any more than a dementia patient can stop having dementia..that's my opinion..I got a lot of help with this question talking it over with my therapist, I had ap pills on hand , I knew I would have to have around 8 over 8 days to break psychosis but a third psychosis never came so I never had to try it
 
Nina2021 said:
I'm also getting addicted to benzos since I can't sleep. I wish to die was easy.
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This would also be contributing to your depression Nina. Benzos can also have a paradoxical effect on sleep sometimes if you take too much, or if you are in withdrawals you get insomnia. Have you tried to get clean off the benzos? How much are you taking, exactly?
 
n3ophy7e said:
This would also be contributing to your depression Nina. Benzos can also have a paradoxical effect on sleep sometimes if you take too much, or if you are in withdrawals you get insomnia. Have you tried to get clean off the benzos? How much are you taking, exactly?
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I stopped sleeping with xeplion so I was given 2 lorazepam 2mg lormetazepan and 192mg of clometiazol. Even like this I sleep really few but I don't have the huge headaches I used to have the whole day when I was not sleeping
 
It is really sad that it is my family who has killed me trying to do me good because the psychiatrist said xeplion was a really good medication. They still think they did good and I just look for ways to die because I have ended so badly
 
^Agreed. Benzos can cause some gnarly depression in the long-term, not everyone but still significantly prevalent.

But if you're using a benzo by prescription, and the doctor has decided that your case is right for it, well then we can't say too much against it.

Also, there is a difference between addiction and dependence. If you're taking it per the order of your doctor, then it would be dependence. Addiction is all about taking higher and higher doses to get euphoria. Dependence is doing what the bottle says. Good to take notes, too, I reckon.

But it would be nice, as noted by my fellow mod, to know what one you're taking and how much you take. We can give a decent laymen's opinion about some things. It really just comes down to openness and honesty, though, which is surely easier said than done!

Please keep going though. I see the light ahead for you at this point, but it is there for sure regardless.
 
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AlphaMethylPhenyl said:
^Agreed. Benzos can cause some gnarly depression in the long-term, not everyone but still significantly prevalent.

But if you're using a benzo by prescription, and the doctor has decided that your case is right for it, well then we can't say too much against it.

Also, there is a difference between addiction and dependence. If you're taking it per the order of your doctor, then it would be dependence. Addiction is all about taking higher and higher doses to get euphoria. Dependence is doing what the bottle says. Good to take notes, too, I reckon.

But it would be nice, as noted by my fellow mod, to know what one you're taking and how much you take. We can give a decent laymen's opinion about some things. It really just comes down to openness and honesty, though, which is surely easier said than done!

Please keep going though. I see the light ahead for you at this point, but it is there for sure regardless.
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I was also prescribed Invenga. My trust in medical prescription is very low. More over I was telling the doctor it was not doing good for me and I had finally to quit by myself. Too late. All sleep lost,
huge anhedonia, motor problems, etc...
 
Nina2021 said:
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I was also prescribed Invenga. My trust in medical prescription is very low. More over I was telling the doctor it was not doing good for me and I had finally to quit by myself. Too late. All sleep lost,
huge anhedonia, motor problems, etc...
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Wow that sounds terrible. I'm sorry you went through this and are going through this.

It may sound callous, but the doctors do pretty much what the statistics tell them to do. We certainly have an imperfect system, though.

Invega does work for a lot of people. I think that there is a bias in the selection process, meaning that more with terrible experiences will take to internet forums to talk about it, as opposed to those whom it worked well for. Not to downplay what you go through. Just saying.

How long has it been for you? Are you taking any meds currently? There are tons out there. Chances are that you can find meds that work well for you, if you choose to go that route. I've gone through countless trials, but I have found meds that support myself and my endeavors. It might take a few years.
 
Once said I was quitting, when I was truly really bad, 6 injection. The doctor prescribed me risperidonA pills but I'm not taking them. I had on case of psychosis which was mild and that is my minor problem compared on how invenga has left me. Im lying down all day, unable to do a thing, I have some constant suffering, etc... I was good on Risperdal drops but the genius psiquiatrist decided something else and my family blackmail me to continue with the injections. I was by then very bad with brain fog and many effects I still have. I phantom killing myself because of how bad invenga has left me. My days are horror. I depend on my elderly mother to do everything for me and my family still doesn't see how bad the injections were.
 
So there are things that you could do to help yourself behaviorally. I'm not saying that what your going through isn't bad, but that things like exercise and meditation really can help expedite the recovery process for you. Have you tried that?
 
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