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LucidSDreamr

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Regardless of what your drug is...changes in medical practices, laws, cartel operations etc. Could result in you losing access to your drug of choice

Anyone else have a constant anxiety of this happening? How do you cope with it?
.just try to stay in the present and not think about the future I guess but I still always feel scared.
 
I don't have any physical dependency so I'm not 'scared' exactly; but both availability and general quality have lessened and I'm pissed off about it.
 
This is kinda funny question cuz it’s kind of how I got into learning chemistry. It was late 00’s and the MDMA drought was taking place. Due to the downward spiral of MDMA quality from the early 90’s I thought it could be the end for it. I couldn’t accept that.

I started reading the most basic of MDMA synths which looked like a foreign language but just kept researching and re-reading it over and over again. Eventually I understood it but that opened the door to want to know more and more. I never ended up synthesizing any as I became well connected to not feel the need for that danger when I could buy it for cheap enough. But just knowing I can leaves me with a sense of peace if ever a drought that bad comes again.

So I guess I cope by learning and planning. If the world ended tomorrow societally.. I’d be ok. Me and my family at least gonna be comfortable as we watch the mushroom clouds off in the distance.

-GC
 
Heroin doesn't even exist anymore in my country. It's almost a relief, knowing that if I tried to score it again after so many years that it would be shit fent. I've relapsed a few times in the last 12 years and it was mostly just shitty fent with a shitty high... or real pharma which is so expensive now it's less financially practical to be addicted to than cocaine.

I am now addicted to alcohol even though I hate it... not worried about that running out any time soon.
 
Not reslly becsuse its been 2 yesrs and i dont wsnna EVER touch coke in any of its RoA. And whrn it comes to morphine ehhh, i got 3 plugs in the black market of meds but hsve 0 desire to inject myself...im 2 years clean of crsck and 6 months from morphine(IV).
 
This is kinda funny question cuz it’s kind of how I got into learning chemistry. It was late 00’s and the MDMA drought was taking place. Due to the downward spiral of MDMA quality from the early 90’s I thought it could be the end for it. I couldn’t accept that.

I started reading the most basic of MDMA synths which looked like a foreign language but just kept researching and re-reading it over and over again. Eventually I understood it but that opened the door to want to know more and more. I never ended up synthesizing any as I became well connected to not feel the need for that danger when I could buy it for cheap enough. But just knowing I can leaves me with a sense of peace if ever a drought that bad comes again.

So I guess I cope by learning and planning. If the world ended tomorrow societally.. I’d be ok. Me and my family at least gonna be comfortable as we watch the mushroom clouds off in the distance.

-GC
Chemistry is great but I'd rather not have equipment or do things that will result in the death penalty or life in prison at the minimum if I am caught.
 
Kinda yeah but the Pregabalin has been helping me tremendously when I take it as prescribed. It’s been a wonder drug for my anxiety and stress levels. Gonna come off my antidepressant that I’ve been on for years (Mirtazapine) soon and just stay on Pregabalin for the foreseeable future.

Could be an interesting thread 👍
 
Chemistry is great but I'd rather not have equipment or do things that will result in the death penalty or life in prison at the minimum if I am caught.

There’s a whole lot you can do with mason jars and random glass. I agree keeping around a bunch of gear is as bad as having the drugs themselves. That said, I think we may live in different locations cuz those sound like pretty harsh consequences.

-GC
 
There’s a whole lot you can do with mason jars and random glass. I agree keeping around a bunch of gear is as bad as having the drugs themselves. That said, I think we may live in different locations cuz those sound like pretty harsh consequences.

-GC
I'm in America and manufacture is worse than high-level trafficking...especially if it's fentsnyl they would publicly crucify you.

Street level distribution is even like 3 to 10 years or so.

I've heard of some very, what seem like light sentences to an American, in the Netherlands for manufacturing major ectacsy operations.
 
In Canada it has become next to impossible to find a family doctor in most places. One of the reasons I haven't been able to move is because if I do, I will lose my doctor. I hate the way the healthcare system is designed.
 
Kinda yeah but the Pregabalin has been helping me tremendously when I take it as prescribed. It’s been a wonder drug for my anxiety and stress levels. Gonna come off my antidepressant that I’ve been on for years (Mirtazapine) soon and just stay on Pregabalin for the foreseeable future.

Could be an interesting thread 👍
I've also used pregabalin for years. It has helped me really much. My social anxiety is almost zero and I've been able to find a girlfriend.

My psychiatrist is ok with pregabalin, but there are other psychiatrists who don't like it. So, if my doctor ever changes - I might lose my prescription. >_<
 
***NO PRICES***

since I source EVERYTHING via DNM, I couldn't care less about the
1) price of coke (bad to very good is
2). Amphetamine HCL
3) very good indoor weed:
4) 3-MF (trimethylfentanyl, the only country in the WORLD to have ONLY FENTANYL ANALOGUE as the only opiate available for society from dealers. NO HEROIN NEVER EVER! I used trimethylfentanyl (4000-6000 times stronger than morphine, you make 30-35 doses from 1 gram of this specific fentanyl analogue. and it's 5% pure or so, i'm sure. kilo would be AT LEAST especially if its even close to pure. anyway, the doses used to gost but from what I hear its been (!!!) for like the last 3-4 years and I just cant imagine junkies getting that type of money together daily because you need to use fentanyl as often as you would use G if you had physical addiction to drinking G. you either: set the clock to wake you up every 3hr or you wake up drenched in sweat every 4-5 hours in mad WD's and as soon as you drink 2mg of G, you can sleep on. fentanyl is very short lasting so people try to use as often as possible.

I buy Afghan Heroin (#3) monthly from EU thats available everywhere in UK and at least all ofd Western and Central EU, don't know about ALL of the rest of EU but we have NEVER had heroin but Estonia is the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD to have a FENTANYL ANALOGUE be an opioid sold by dealrs since 2002!! we have been #1 in terms of OD's and the next three countries TOGETHER dont have as high a count as we do (and we have 1.1mil people while the countries after us are Germany, France etc. with 90mil people in one country alone. yet there's 1.1mil of us (75/25 Finnic/Slavic)

Does anyone here snort the EU heroin? or has anyone ever soon somebody else do it or heard of anybody doing it?
I just can't imagine how you could get it down to such a fine powder that it would actually take effect in your sinuses.
when I buy 10g at a time or whatever, last time I just got 2 x 5g ROCKS and had to use my scissors to grind down both of those rocks and make it as small as possible so it'd be easier to smoke off foil. I have a VERY rare thing where my veins are NOT visible; it takes a nurse with 30 years experience in taking blood to find a vein from me because not only are they NOT seen, they also "swim" so its VERY hard to register with me, esp. if you want blood bc then it has to be inside the vein for awhile and it SUCKS when they finally start using your small veins for getting that blood. last time i had two people working on both of my hands and drawing blood together, it SUCKED.i've never developed a scare for needles due to it from all the crap when I was a kid so i'd definitely would've been banging my fentanyl not smoking it and paying € for 1gram of fent (30-35 doses) and doing it all in 16-18 hours and being in WD's when I get a new g about 24h since my last dose. I wasted € in 1.75 years. (2010-2012). Then one day a bright light went on in my brain and I went on methadone and have been on it since 2012 April and have paid €/$/£ for the 10 years of service. it's all part of healthcare over here and NO I am NOT from a rich Scandinavian country. But yeah more-or-less, it's the best place to be in the region, that's for SURE! All other places are TOO rich meaning prices too high and rest are too poor meaning no work that pays well etc.

Tallinn, Estonia is one of a kind :)
 
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since I source EVERYTHING via DNM, I couldn't care less about the
1) 150-200€/g price of coke (bad to very good is 150-180-200€)
2). Amphetamine HCL 10€/g.
3) very good indoor weed: 20€/g; 10g: 150€.
4) 3-MF (trimethylfentanyl, the only country in the WORLD to have ONLY FENTANYL ANALOGUE as the only opiate available for society from dealers. NO HEROIN NEVER EVER! I used trimethylfentanyl (4000-6000 times stronger than morphine, you make 30-35 doses from 1 gram of this specific fentanyl analogue. and it's 5% pure or so, i'm sure. kilo would be 500.000€ AT LEAST especially if its even close to pure. anyway, the doses used to gost 10€ but from what I hear its been 25€ (!!!) for like the last 3-4 years and I just cant imagine junkies getting that type of money together daily because you need to use fentanyl as often as you would use G if you had physical addiction to drinking G. you either: set the clock to wake you up every 3hr or you wake up drenched in sweat every 4-5 hours in mad WD's and as soon as you drink 2mg of G, you can sleep on. fentanyl is very short lasting so people try to use as often as possible.

I buy Afghan Heroin (#3) monthly from EU thats available everywhere in UK and at least all ofd Western and Central EU, don't know about ALL of the rest of EU but we have NEVER had heroin but Estonia is the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD to have a FENTANYL ANALOGUE be an opioid sold by dealrs since 2002!! we have been #1 in terms of OD's and the next three countries TOGETHER dont have as high a count as we do (and we have 1.1mil people while the countries after us are Germany, France etc. with 90mil people in one country alone. yet there's 1.1mil of us (75/25 Finnic/Slavic)

Does anyone here snort the EU heroin? or has anyone ever soon somebody else do it or heard of anybody doing it?
I just can't imagine how you could get it down to such a fine powder that it would actually take effect in your sinuses.
when I buy 10g at a time or whatever, last time I just got 2 x 5g ROCKS and had to use my scissors to grind down both of those rocks and make it as small as possible so it'd be easier to smoke off foil. I have a VERY rare thing where my veins are NOT visible; it takes a nurse with 30 years experience in taking blood to find a vein from me because not only are they NOT seen, they also "swim" so its VERY hard to register with me, esp. if you want blood bc then it has to be inside the vein for awhile and it SUCKS when they finally start using your small veins for getting that blood. last time i had two people working on both of my hands and drawing blood together, it SUCKED.i've never developed a scare for needles due to it from all the crap when I was a kid so i'd definitely would've been banging my fentanyl not smoking it and paying 240€ for 1gram of fent (30-35 doses) and doing it all in 16-18 hours and being in WD's when I get a new g about 24h since my last dose. I wasted ~250.000€ in 1.75 years. (2010-2012). Then one day a bright light went on in my brain and I went on methadone and have been on it since 2012 April and have paid 0.00€/$/£ for the 10 years of service. it's all part of healthcare over here and NO I am NOT from a rich Scandinavian country. But yeah more-or-less, it's the best place to be in the region, that's for SURE! All other places are TOO rich meaning prices too high and rest are too poor meaning no work that pays well etc.

Tallinn, Estonia is one of a kind :)
We are not allowed to discuss prices here.

But yes I have snorted brown no 3 heroin plenty of times, works fine.
 
In Canada it has become next to impossible to find a family doctor in most places. One of the reasons I haven't been able to move is because if I do, I will lose my doctor. I hate the way the healthcare system is designed.
Is this the case even with private insurance?

Is it because of storage of doctors or just the public Healthcare system sucks?

We need to all immigrate to some south American country that grows heroin, manufactures fent and sells pharma drugs OTC or (under the counter)

Start our own little ex pat drug colony
 
Well seeing as how it’s difficult to be able to use the excessive amount of pseudoephedrine to cook the meth the way they used to cook it to produce better quality meth.. one that gave euphoria, actual energy, focus, confidence.. overall perfect drug I used to self medicate and treat my adhd.. yeah not having access to better potency/quality drugs has had a tremendous effect on my over all health and i’m wondering how long I should wait before I decide I got to go to the ER because I’ve been having bloody stools from chronic oral use and I’m pretty sure I’ll be dead soon If I don’t fucking go!
 
Well seeing as how it’s difficult to be able to use the excessive amount of pseudoephedrine to cook the meth the way they used to cook it to produce better quality meth.. one that gave euphoria, actual energy, focus, confidence.. overall perfect drug I used to self medicate and treat my adhd.. yeah not having access to better potency/quality drugs has had a tremendous effect on my over all health and i’m wondering how long I should wait before I decide I got to go to the ER because I’ve been having bloody stools from chronic oral use and I’m pretty sure I’ll be dead soon If I don’t fucking go!
Do you plan to stop though?

Fucking up digestive organs with drugs is a lifetime of hell and opioid dependency that i live from ketamine damage. Please try to quit before you're there.

If you destroy your GI system you probably won't even be able to handle opipids and be left with permanent suicide ideation inducing chronic pain u can't even take pain killers form

You might have to settle for adderall. I certainly don't do ketamine anymore and no.stimulamts. the damage became so permanent and bad that I quit all drugs except opioids and benzos
 
I found a virtual gold mine in terms of sure life saver recently.

3 grams Etizolam powder never knew had.

Need it too. I won't get more, am on 30 mg's day atm for severe pain and stress, the 2 grams I hoped to be tapering from, will shortly be gone!


I have few plans. It's about safety, future, managing, not recreation.


I hope, to make some grand and paramount recovery steps asap pain stops.

Then me and those 3 grams can talk.

If I had BTC I may be able to grab some Bromozolam powder to basically take pressure off time.


I am too allergic to any pills or mainstream prescriptions.
 
Is this the case even with private insurance?

Is it because of storage of doctors or just the public Healthcare system sucks?

We need to all immigrate to some south American country that grows heroin, manufactures fent and sells pharma drugs OTC or (under the counter)

Start our own little ex pat drug colony

There is some private care here now even though it violates the Universal Healthcare Act, but it's still not enough.

We desperately need doctors and nurses but the system has had so many cutbacks that the government is not willing to pay for more.

Meanwhile, it is also next to impossible to get into medical school. The biggest university here has 200 seats. The market of doctors is kept artificially small to make public healthcare competitive, but doctors are fleeing Canada in droves to the United States where pay and conditions are 10x better.

Canada is becoming a banana republic, thanks to Trudeau. Our systems are about to collapse. I'm not exaggerating.
 
There is some private care here now even though it violates the Universal Healthcare Act, but it's still not enough.

We desperately need doctors and nurses but the system has had so many cutbacks that the government is not willing to pay for more.

Meanwhile, it is also next to impossible to get into medical school. The biggest university here has 200 seats. The market of doctors is kept artificially small to make public healthcare competitive, but doctors are fleeing Canada in droves to the United States where pay and conditions are 10x better.

Canada is becoming a banana republic, thanks to Trudeau. Our systems are about to collapse. I'm not exaggerating.
Yea when I hear this stuff straight from the horses mouth rather than right wing American news inaporeciate hearing the truth.

America is great for healthcare if you have money. If you don't have money youre dead from no insulin.

I went through a phase where I wanted to leave America over Healthcare but it sadly seems like the best option despite the extreme price gouging and corruption of private Healthcare bribing politicians
 
We desperately need doctors and nurses but the system has had so many cutbacks that the government is not willing to pay for more

Canada is becoming a banana republic, thanks to Trudeau. Our systems are about to collapse. I'm not exaggerating.
My wife is Canadian and we live in NY. We did live in Ontario some years back. (whole immigration thing both ways) My wife always talks of going back to Canada. Recently she had a heart damage issue and we are in NY with some very good health insurance and they got her right in and did about 4 procedures in 3 days. So when I asked her if we were in Canada it would be free health care. (now keep in mind United Health insurance in the US is top notch, it pays just about everything except copays) But what she said to me the first time is she would not have had care so quick in Canada, It would worry her. She had an issue some years back and needed an MRI and it was scheduled 19 months down the road in Canada. By the time it came up she was feeling better, but could have just as well have been dead. She needed another one here in the US years later and got in 5 days later.

There is the whole debate about socialized medicine verses private. I think the notion of socialized medicine is very honorable. But as stated in the article below it is hard getting doctors and nurses. Honestly I do not know the answer to which type of health is the better model. Both are saddled with their own issues,


As far as the original question, when I win a woosh of money (and I will!) I would hire some slick lawyers (US again lol) to first go after my uncles Doctor who stuck him in a nursing home and decided to cold turkey his 3 mgs of clonazepam a day that he took for 25 years. My uncle went psychotic and doctors claimed it was senilety. i would go out of my way to drag that asshole into court and embarrass him. Then I would go after some of the doctors that cut BL'ers off benzos with no taper. There is no room for such incompetence in medicine and if you have money in the US you can sue anyone. It irritates me so much I would make that a cause. I am tired of the arrogant young know it all douchbag doctors. Saying that there are some real human doctors that are in it to help heal and not worry about protocol. So if they can do it these other chickenshit doctors should learn maturity.

But I think I cad safely say all I use is kratom and cannabis. Those I do not worryy about as there is so much and now becoming business. But if I used any form of benzo as a medicine I would worry for sure due to the incompetent examples of plain old inadequate health care providers who are just plain old dumb and have no knowledge of the pharms they get paid to push.
 
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