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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread 2022-2023 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

So I got an order yesterday and proceeded to test it out. First the 4f-mph and then the 25b-NBOH when my buddy came over.

We both snorted some 4f-mph and then I snorted 5mg and my buddy 3 or 4mg of 25b-NBOH.

It was way too much for my buddy. He was shattered for hours. I'm still up since I've been redosing 4f-mph.

My lady friend came over and we were dancing. I had a good night and a good trip. My buddy had a difficult trip. He called it a bad trip but I've seen bad trips and it could've been worse if he wasn't a seasoned drug user himself.

He and my lady friend are sleeping and I'm just chilling listening to music.
 
I posted on telegram at one point I can't see. Then I was laughing saying what if I died from an overdose and the last thing I laughingly posted was I can't see!! Lol
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Yeah combos are great, some of the DOC ones that i tried and enjoyed are these. Its a versatile mixer for sure...

DOC, Methallylescaline, BOD, Xanax, 3C-P and 5-Br-DMT
DOC, BOD and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and DOPr
DOC and 1,4-BDO
DOC and Psilocybin
DOC and Etizolam
DOC and 3-MeO-PCP
DOC and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and 4-HO-MET
DOC and n, n-DMT
DOC and 2C-C
DOC and 2C-D
DOC and 2C-P
DOC and 2C-B
DOC and 6-APB
DOC and βk-MDEA
DOC and 3-MeOMC

That might be them all 😆

Good god man...well done
 
I posted on telegram at one point I can't see. Then I was laughing saying what if I died from an overdose and the last thing I laughingly posted was I can't see!! Lol
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I was gonna laugh reaction to that... then I thought about all the peeps who have died after the last thing they posted was some sort of thing like that, and it made me feel sad instead.

But glad you had fun. :)
 
I think full agonists cannabinoids used in spice are for people who can't get off on delta 9 anymore. Similarly full agonist NBOH intranasal 5x the recommended dose is like tripping for people that can't trip anymore lol.

If that makes any sense. Spice is to weed what snorting nboh is to tripping.

I literally could hardly see at times because the visuals were so overwhelming. My buddy could've really freaked out.
 
I enjoy combinations with DOC, especially if they're taken post-peak. One of my favorite trips was 25 or 30mg of 4-HO-MiPT at the plateau of 2mg of DOC, about 10 hours in.
Awesome! That's great to hear. Have you ever combined dissociatives with DOC? The combination of the 2 seems intriguing to me. I didn't find DOC to havve much in a way of body load, but I was walking the whole time. DOM I found to have a bit of a heavy body load. Not bad, not good, just there. I'm wondering if something like 2f-DCK would take the edge off of it or if it'd worsen the body load.


Yeah combos are great, some of the DOC ones that i tried and enjoyed are these. Its a versatile mixer for sure...

DOC, Methallylescaline, BOD, Xanax, 3C-P and 5-Br-DMT
DOC, BOD and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and DOPr
DOC and 1,4-BDO
DOC and Psilocybin
DOC and Etizolam
DOC and 3-MeO-PCP
DOC and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and 4-HO-MET
DOC and n, n-DMT
DOC and 2C-C
DOC and 2C-D
DOC and 2C-P
DOC and 2C-B
DOC and 6-APB
DOC and βk-MDEA
DOC and 3-MeOMC

That might be them all 😆
Oh wow! That first combo that you listed is a hell of a combo! I think I'd be hesitant to mix 3C-P with another psychedelic amphetamine with some of the reports I've read. I have yet to try 3c-p, although I finally have gotten some to play around with. Maybe 3C-P is one that shines in combos but leaves something to be desired on it's own.

I've also heard a lot of people say that TMA-2 is lackluuster, buut i spent a decent portion of my night a few nights back reading through reports and it seems to me to be a chemical that actually holds some true potential. I'm excited to try it.

How did you find that DOC mixed with 3-MeO-PCP? That sounds AMAZING to me. 3-MeO-PCP with loads of smoked meth (back when meth quality was higher than it is these days) and that was one of those "God-like" combos to me. I felt like I could do anything and everything that I wanted. I felt superhuman. I could see that mindset being dangerous if a violent criminal were to consume it. I had a very close friend who went on to become a very likely serial killer and he LOVED it, and now I wonder why.

Also, does DOC combine well with empathogens? Seems to me like the body load would be intense but then again an added empathogen might turn a possibly unpleasant body load into something amazing. I wish I could go to festivals. DOC seems like a STELLAR festival drug. I doubt I'd find DOC appropriate for a show at a typical venue when I have to go home afterwards
 
Life is tough atm, but i aint go no more time to trip. If i make it through this year ill eat a whole fucking sheet of acid in one go
 
Just got some really bad news, they are making people leave the halfway house that have been here over 6 months now. And i have been here for 8 so this is a major problem. I have some money out aside in savings but nowhere near as much as i like. Im gonna have to find a room to rent from somebody ASAP. Then have to take the bus to work from the city i move or wherever town i find a cheap place.

Im really stressed out right now and worried if they put me out to the street and things fall apart im gonna go on a binge and fuck everything up. Im really going to try and do the right thing and figure this all out. If i violate i have a 3 year prison sentence hanging over my head, this is completely fucked. I dont wanna do another bid. Its gonna be really shitty i probably wont get parole again for at least 12 months if not longer.

Ive worked so hard to get to where im at and i feel like im having the rug pulled out from under me with no warning. Some people are being forced to leave today but they havent called me aside yet. Hope i can get another month, at least i will have time to look more 😔
 
I've also heard a lot of people say that TMA-2 is lackluuster, buut i spent a decent portion of my night a few nights back reading through reports and it seems to me to be a chemical that actually holds some true potential. I'm excited to try it.
It's a good DOx introductory chem imo, it has something unique going for it and it's not "transparent" or anything, but to me it is way below both DOB & DOC in recreational potential.
When I tried it, to me it was first and foremost a DOx and then way below that maybe it was mescaline or whatever-like, so that's why I make those comparisons. Some really enjoy it, and some got these incredible bodyhighs that can make DOx so obscenely euphoric. Nice :)
Also, does DOC combine well with empathogens? Seems to me like the body load would be intense but then again an added empathogen might turn a possibly unpleasant body load into something amazing.
To quote a bluelighter from one of the three DOC threads, "who needs MDMA when you have DOC". Great quote.

I would not approve of adding 3-MeO-PCP myself (but that's me and nobody should really listen anyway =D =D ), along with some stimulants the most offputting and dirty drug I've ever done, poison for the mind.
 
If you are prone to have sharp rises in your blood pressure, I would avoid the combo. DOC may become very vasoconstrictive and MDMA may further escalate those issues. Besides, who needs MDMA when you have DOC?...=D


I have had such a blast last weekend with 2mg of DOC, preloaded with Magnesium, F-Phenibut, Phenibut, Agmatine, NAC and Arginine. In two hours or so I started really coming up with highly pronounced visuals - they were kind of Egyptian letters and scribes all over as OEVs, upon closing eyes demonic women with no eyes approached me and I eventually recognized them as my evil intentions, it was really therapeutic! Then I was shitting on the toilet for about two hours non-stop - it just kept coming and coming and coming... Never in my life I have taken such a long and huge dump! All the while I was laughing my ass off (quite literally)! =D

After the purge was over I felt God-like, very confident, full of energy and desire to do something so I biked for about 20 miles or so. Then my girl came from work and we went to the restaurant - I usually dont like to go out as I feel somewhat uncomfortable and awkward around many other people but man I was so social, so talkative! And not like with stupid coke and amp - I felt intelligent, very funny and conversations were never easier for me!

The dinner was a blast, then we vaporized a bunch of cannabis, watched a movie, had sex... the day was endless with DOC! I was up for about 30 hours or so and all the while feeling extremely euphoric and happy! No body load whatsoever this time, well, except the two hour ass purging...8:)!:D

I love DOC, this last time it really shined for me in all it's glory!
What a guy, huh :)
 
Yeah combos are great, some of the DOC ones that i tried and enjoyed are these. Its a versatile mixer for sure...

DOC, Methallylescaline, BOD, Xanax, 3C-P and 5-Br-DMT
DOC, BOD and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and DOPr
DOC and 1,4-BDO
DOC and Psilocybin
DOC and Etizolam
DOC and 3-MeO-PCP
DOC and 4-AcO-DMT
DOC and 4-HO-MET
DOC and n, n-DMT
DOC and 2C-C
DOC and 2C-D
DOC and 2C-P
DOC and 2C-B
DOC and 6-APB
DOC and βk-MDEA
DOC and 3-MeOMC

That might be them all 😆
DOC + DOPr ?? Holy fuck, how was that ?! Sounds like a 40 hour trip lol.

Also, man, just read your other post, I hope you figure out your housing situation :(
 
DOC + DOPr ?? Holy fuck, how was that ?! Sounds like a 40 hour trip lol.

Also, man, just read your other post, I hope you figure out your housing situation :(

Well it was actually more close to a 4 day trip because i started with 3mg of DOC and then when i started to come down 16hrs later, i then dosed 10mgs of DOPr and tripped hard for the roughly 40hr duration. When that was winding to a close i took another 3mgs of DOC and this point im pretty sure i was awake for 3 days, then i think i dosed DOC maybe even one more time.

The trip was insane to say the least ot started as a practical DOC trip like have had so many times before but once i dosed the DOPr once it took effect i was overwhelmed by visuals and could barely see through them for the first day. I had trouble navigating around my apartment to goro the bathroom.

The euphoria from it was incredible. This combo was so powerful and the reason i was able to ride it out so well was the benzo. I might of even taken 2C-P as well during those days. When i take benzos i get super drug pig compulsive and just start gobbling up ridiculous amounts of drugs.

I was also taking Clonazepam during this counteracting a deal of the stimulation surge. During this period i was doing ridiculous psychedelic binges period and eventually it ruined my tolerance to the point i couldnt get any visuals unless i was on a huge dose of dissos and took a whopping 40mg dose of 4-AcO-DMT.
 
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Awesome! That's great to hear. Have you ever combined dissociatives with DOC? The combination of the 2 seems intriguing to me. I didn't find DOC to havve much in a way of body load, but I was walking the whole time. DOM I found to have a bit of a heavy body load. Not bad, not good, just there. I'm wondering if something like 2f-DCK would take the edge off of it or if it'd worsen the body load.



Oh wow! That first combo that you listed is a hell of a combo! I think I'd be hesitant to mix 3C-P with another psychedelic amphetamine with some of the reports I've read. I have yet to try 3c-p, although I finally have gotten some to play around with. Maybe 3C-P is one that shines in combos but leaves something to be desired on it's own.

I've also heard a lot of people say that TMA-2 is lackluuster, buut i spent a decent portion of my night a few nights back reading through reports and it seems to me to be a chemical that actually holds some true potential. I'm excited to try it.

How did you find that DOC mixed with 3-MeO-PCP? That sounds AMAZING to me. 3-MeO-PCP with loads of smoked meth (back when meth quality was higher than it is these days) and that was one of those "God-like" combos to me. I felt like I could do anything and everything that I wanted. I felt superhuman. I could see that mindset being dangerous if a violent criminal were to consume it. I had a very close friend who went on to become a very likely serial killer and he LOVED it, and now I wonder why.

Also, does DOC combine well with empathogens? Seems to me like the body load would be intense but then again an added empathogen might turn a possibly unpleasant body load into something amazing. I wish I could go to festivals. DOC seems like a STELLAR festival drug. I doubt I'd find DOC appropriate for a show at a typical venue when I have to go home afterwards
The only combo I've tried with DOC (besides thc) is mdma. That was quite euphoric.
 
nearly one year since i saw a alien spacecraft typcial of a flying saucer in the forest at night before i was about to smoke weed.
 
Today has been the worst. I've had water leaking from my carport ceiling for 5 days... I thought it was the dishwasher I had installed recently, for sure, but then this morning I realized it was the kitchen sink faucet, which was also leaking a bit out of the handle onto the countertop. I thought it couldn't have been, because the area under the sink is bone dry, but I noticed just before the installer technician arrived (who I lit a fire under, they were going to come February 15th at first) that there was a little gap that had worn away in the caulking between the backsplash and the countertop, that the water pooling on the countertop was going into. From there it's been sliding down the back of the wall, into the cavity that the dishwasher is in, and through the floor. Once I shut the water supply off to the sink and soaked up the water on the countertop, it stopped dripping.

When the installer got here, they checked it out, it wasn't the dishwasher. But they were really nice and gave me some tips on what to do. I didn't tell them I figured it out because I didn't want them to charge me for the visit. But I'm gonna have pull the plywood off the carport ceiling and open it up to air it out, so it doesn't grow black mold.

So I went and bought a new kitchen sink faucet, and some clear silicone caulk. This will be the second time I've changed the kitchen faucet. But the nut that you tighten to hold it down, from underneath, is rusted and really tightly on there. And there is virtually no room to maneuver. I honestly don't remember how I got the last one off. I came home and try as I might, I couldn't loosen it. So I went back out to get a tool... it's a special kind of wrench for that purpose. Got home, and the fucking thing was too small. Then I reconnected the water hoses to the existing faucet so we could wash the dishes and make dinner and stuff, and now the hot water one is leaking. And the shutoff valve doesn't completely shut the water off. So now I have to wake up really early tomorrow and go BACK to Home Depot (where I got the faucet, farther away than the closer hardware store I got the wrench from) and hope I can find the right tool. And then hope the WD-40 loosened the rust enough, and that I can loosen the nut.

I've had so many water damage situations in this house. It fucking stresses me out. :| This new faucet has all brass hardware and a nut design that will make it easy to remove again... it's also an upgrade of a faucet, I'm looking forward to being able to use it. Unfortunately, 10-11 years ago when I bought the current faucet, I guess they didn't think to make the shit rust-proof or easy to uninstall.

I've noticed in the past handful of years that all the plumbing-related hardware has been designed to use plastic or non-rustable metals for the parts that you have to screw in. Don't know why they didn't think of that 10 years ago.

Awesome! That's great to hear. Have you ever combined dissociatives with DOC? The combination of the 2 seems intriguing to me. I didn't find DOC to havve much in a way of body load, but I was walking the whole time. DOM I found to have a bit of a heavy body load. Not bad, not good, just there. I'm wondering if something like 2f-DCK would take the edge off of it or if it'd worsen the body load.

Yeah I've added MXE to DOC a few times. I have never pre-loaded with a disso though. For me, every psychedelic is tremendously potentiated with even light doses of dissociatives as a preload/launching pad. Like 2-3x as powerful. The bodyload is reduced but the trip becomes extremely intense, to the point that combining, say, 15mg of MXE and 20mg of 2C-B (both light doses that are museum-level for me) results in a profound trip where I can barely see through the visuals and have trouble communicating. However, adding a dissociative post-peak seems to not have the same effect, it just smooths things out and adds a dissociating edge. I have never really had the balls to preload DOC with a disso, it's strong enough on its own, and so long.

@cosmic charlie , that sucks man. :( I hope that you get to stay. But even if you don't, you have to tell yourself that going on a relapse binge and ending up in prison just isn't an option. When we tell ourselves that these things will happen, we are basically pre-allowing it to happen... it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. yeah, it'll be stressful, but it doesn't mean you have to relapse. <3
 
I know. Over here we keep putting new parts on this one furnace. But over here it's a switch over to burning the wood stove or switch over to solar and wind turbine choices. We have off grid freedom.. I have the window open all day or night a lot. Oh but Damn. It's STILL a lot of WORK always. Love those day off's right, sorry about your bad day. Poops happens. :poop: :)
 
Yeah I've added MXE to DOC a few times. I have never pre-loaded with a disso though. For me, every psychedelic is tremendously potentiated with even light doses of dissociatives as a preload/launching pad. Like 2-3x as powerful. The bodyload is reduced but the trip becomes extremely intense, to the point that combining, say, 15mg of MXE and 20mg of 2C-B (both light doses that are museum-level for me) results in a profound trip where I can barely see through the visuals and have trouble communicating. However, adding a dissociative post-peak seems to not have the same effect, it just smooths things out and adds a dissociating edge. I have never really had the balls to preload DOC with a disso, it's strong enough on its own, and so long.
That is completely fair. My most recent dissociative + psychedelic was 10mg 3-HO-PCP and 15mg or less of 4-ACO-MET at the same time. It was WAY more intense than I had intended, considering 10mg of 3-HO-PCP isn't a huge dose for me. All I was able to do is sit tight and hold on and wait for it to end basically. It wasn't bad, just super intense. I think from now on I'll dose the dissociatives after the psychedelic has kicked in. I've always enjoyed mixing the classes, but starting off with the dissociative made things so much more intense. I still need to try preloading a tryptamine with 3-MeO-PCE, but other than that I'll probably not preload with a dissociative.

I'm sorry that you've been dealing with so much stress regarding water damage. I hope that you're able to get things repaired soon.
 
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