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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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Hey scoobysnacks :p Yeah im good bro, cut back on my drug use and have a job now so my life seems to be heading in another direction :).

I dunno if the 4-FA I recieved is shit or what but 125mg wouldnt do much of anything to me even with no tolerance to stims. I would probably consider doing a 200 - 250mg bomb followed by 200-250mg methylone at +4 hours.

Im curious now as to whether or not I have legitimate 4-FA cos what I have isn't as good as some people on here seem to think and the doses I have taken and friends have taken have still felt somewhat lacking even at 250mg+.

It doesn't give me much of a mood enahncment at all, but makes me gurn like a motherfucker and gives tingles all over. The crash is also pretty nasty, its a fine white crystalline powder with no odour and hurts when snorted (nowhere near as much as 2C-I though :p)

Gonna be hitting up that combo for valve sound system at bristol on 27th nov, i'll report back after it :)
 
I had a feeling it wasn't right I thought maybe it was just cut with something , plus the effects lasted about 18 hours for myself, however not so long on my mates who reported coming down after about 6-8 hours.

What do you guys think about what compound I may or may not have?
 
4-FA IS known to last a long time... 18 hours is a bit dramatic but it depends on your system and what drugs you've been taking/are prescribed, OTC medications, and how 4-FA is metabolized. Fluorinated phenethylamines have been some weird ones...
 
I've combined methylone and 4-fa:

t+00: 150mg 4-fa oral
t+60min: 50mg 4-fa oral
t+100min: 60mg methylone rectal

my gf took the same amount, but puked 3 times because the high was pretty intense. I had 1 hour of pure bliss, extreme euphoria, then 2-3 hours were pretty much filled with euphoria, the rest was stimulation until it became pretty annoying. I managed to sleep after 9 hours, but only for 4 hours, because I had work to do. I got up still feeling pretty stimulated, I didn't need to drink any coffee, that's for sure :).

I'll do 100mg 4-fa rectal + 100mg methylone rectal (1-2 hours in) next time.

The combo is great, the euphoria is extreme, but the stimulation might be a bit of a hassle if you're sensitive.
 
Hi!

Do you think this combo is OK?

t+00: 180mg Methylone
t+120min: 1 line amphetamin (and maybe redose after 60min)

Anyone tried? Maybe we should do the speed alone?


thx
 
Do the speed alone.

I am through trying to mix M1 with anything else after the disaster that was had on Sunday. Stimulated hell all through Monday. And it wasn't even a stimulant, but rather two 4-sub tryptamines (4-HO-MET and 4-AcO-DMT) that I ingested while coming down from the M1.
 
I did 4-fa/m1 combo... its pretty fucking nice...

I did around 200 mg. 4-fa along with 200 mg m1 all at once... then bombed 50 mg m-1 after 1 hour... pretty nice and it last for ever... I would say 10 hours probably...but it wasnt just pure stimulation, I was feeling pretty damm good...

then the next time I did 200 mg M-1 and later (not sure how much later, probably 1 hour or so) 125 mg. 4-fa... I like this combo much more, I think the 4-fa kind of kills the intense come up of M-1, on the other hand, if taken m-1 alone first, I still got to feel the intense come up of the m-1 and then when it was starting to come down of the peak, the 4-fa hit me... awesome night...

Just make sure to have some benzos at hand, it really helps to sleep and kills the overstimulation from the 4-fa...

by the way, this might just be my experience, since I have had no previus experience with M-1 nor 4-fa before...
 
thanks a lot for your experiences and recommendations.

iam just searching for a nice day - could do amphe and/or methylone... but i think we go for the speed alone.

it's the better way for playing some console games, other stimulations (4-fa, coke, meth, mephedrone) would be too intense i think...


cheers
 
hmm... waiting to go to a party as we speak... just read about this combo of 4fa and m1... what is strange is that i never considered the 2 going that well together, as i am generally rather stimulated after each on their own.

so what would be your recommended dosage/timing, given that i am not into plugging?

i was thinking 100mg 4fa and then 2h in the 150mg m1. that should keep me going till early morning. but then again this is the longest night in the year :)


my other option would be holding out on both and just going for 5meo-mipt, but that i have only tried in non party situations and would be reluctant to try it out with this current crowd
 
never done 4-FA, but i, and most others, find M1 very stimulating. Think that combo would be too stimulating for my tastes.
 
kingme - that would be a rather stupid idea. Methylone has a crazy stimulating come up and a crazy stimulating crash on its own... 4-FA added in, with its odd pharmacological profile and wide variance of effects between different people... Not a good mix.
 
So, recently I got a fresh gram of M1... previous 175mg dose was "normal" in effect, really noce, if kinda modest.

Last night I took 5 large Tums tabs to alkalinize stomach, but did not reduce dose... 10 mins later did 175mg M1. Man was I ever overwhelmed. I was a little worried, as it seemed almost too strong... but really not a big deal, no excess heartbeat or anything... just a great intensity. I could feel I would be alright but just had to ride out the peak... actually it was nice in other ways... I felt rather more psychedelic, with these flashes of some sort of "cosmic telepathy" feelings and "sparkles" that it is hard to describe. Kinda like really euphoric sensations and pleasant physical rushes... combined with this "oh shit" feeling of zooming way to fast. Was it great or was it too much? Both at the same time if that makes any sense.

At the strongest of it, I decided to have some alcohol, about 2 shots worth with some juice to try and tone things down. That seemed to make me feel better actually.

Anyone ever have the same dose out of the same batch act much stronger (or weaker) on different occasions? In this case I guess it was due to the Tums enhancing absorption, as I have experienced before, just not this strong.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
kingme - that would be a rather stupid idea. Methylone has a crazy stimulating come up and a crazy stimulating crash on its own... 4-FA added in, with its odd pharmacological profile and wide variance of effects between different people... Not a good mix.
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i know what you are saying but, like i said, i read about others' experiences taking this combo and it seemed to work, for them at least. now im not advocationg anyone to try this, i was just asking peoples opinion about it, maybe getting in a few more reports.

personally i havent tried it, as ive decided to research 4fa on its own a little more before throwing it in in mixes.


but in regards to m1... it gave me another wonderful saturday night.
~160mg on an empty stomach following a full day of family obligations put me in the perfect place for a night out dancing the stress away.

in regards to negative effects, what do you do for the dry mouth? i keep suckling at water bottles and sodas, but it doesnt seem to help a lot. chewing gum if fine the first 2 minutes, and then it feels like im trying to chew sand...
 
I just wanted to add some experiences I had with methylone, and since it is a research chem, all info should be vital:)

I have had some experiences with methylone, I will sum them up:

Alone, taken in a max 250 mg dose it feels good - bit harsh crash, but bearable. 200 is better, the crash is liveable.

When I redose this compound I only prolong the stimulating effect. It leaves me absolutely crushed, physically, with heartpalpitations, sweating and sleeplesness for hours. The highest amount I have taken in 1 night was 500 mg, spread on 200-100 mg doses.

I mixed with butylone, 150/200 (b/M1), and my GF took the same. We both had adversereactions. My GF went into seizurefits, so we went to the hospital. No treatment was needed, but I suffered from anxiety for some months + small hallucinations upon wakening. To this day I still have HPPD-like symptoms after that night, and I cannot handle psychedelics much.

1 day after rolling on 200-100 mg MDMA I took 90mg MDMA and had no effect. I dropped 180mg M1 and got full effect, but only methyloneish. Maybe MDMA and methylone are not that identical in their pharmacological behaviour? They do feel related though.

My conclusions:

Do not redose.
Keep doses under 250 - it could be the difference between a hellish night and crash, and a lovely, nice evening.

Btw, sex on methylone is... well... the best. Plus the therapeutical value cannot be underestimated. I got rid of my socialanxiety for months after my experiments. It is back now, but methylone really helped me - plus it improved many relationships to my surroundings.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
kingme - that would be a rather stupid idea. Methylone has a crazy stimulating come up and a crazy stimulating crash on its own... 4-FA added in, with its odd pharmacological profile and wide variance of effects between different people... Not a good mix.
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Do you think the comeup is "crazy" stimulating? I think it is really intense (probably the most intense feeling I have tried) - like, litterally an abstract feeling of accelerating, as if strapped to an empathogenic spaceshuttle lifting of, but I never noticed it as being overly stimulating. The comedown, how ever, is almost unbearable, stimulationwise IMO. What doses do you normally take? I find that not redosing really helps with regards to the stimulationissues.

Please note: I agree. Do not mix 4-fa with methylone. I think it is reckless to mix stims, anyways, and methylone gave me a trip to the hospital when I mixed it with a low dose of butylone.
 
Welcome, Paul Maud Dib! Great handle! I recently made a smart-alec post in the DPT thread (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8885907&postcount=104) referencing drugs making one feel omniscient/telekinetic like him, haha! I shoulda grabbed the name, but I'm glad someone did!

Wonderful to have The Kwisatz Haderach here with us! Could you please vanquish all enemies of psychedelics for us? THANKS!
 
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DwayneHoover said:
So, recently I got a fresh gram of M1... previous 175mg dose was "normal" in effect, really noce, if kinda modest.

Last night I took 5 large Tums tabs to alkalinize stomach, but did not reduce dose... 10 mins later did 175mg M1. Man was I ever overwhelmed. I was a little worried, as it seemed almost too strong... but really not a big deal, no excess heartbeat or anything... just a great intensity. I could feel I would be alright but just had to ride out the peak... actually it was nice in other ways... I felt rather more psychedelic, with these flashes of some sort of "cosmic telepathy" feelings and "sparkles" that it is hard to describe. Kinda like really euphoric sensations and pleasant physical rushes... combined with this "oh shit" feeling of zooming way to fast. Was it great or was it too much? Both at the same time if that makes any sense.

At the strongest of it, I decided to have some alcohol, about 2 shots worth with some juice to try and tone things down. That seemed to make me feel better actually.

Anyone ever have the same dose out of the same batch act much stronger (or weaker) on different occasions? In this case I guess it was due to the Tums enhancing absorption, as I have experienced before, just not this strong.
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Well this was Friday nite/early Sat AM, and it turns out there was something fucked with my cheap $20 gem scale, or my eyes were not working right, because after reconstructing events, I think I did a massive overdose and passed out, totally unaware that this had happened, because next thing I knew I was wondering why it was dark at 11:30 am (dark rain clouds???) and Saturday Nite Live was on the TV screen at that hour (a special repeat I guessed?)... just really confused and totally in some time-warp, with no idea when it actually was or how much time had elapsed. I should have know something was amiss when my intended 175mg took up 1 capsule and 1/4... I THOUGHT briefly "odd... I thought it was less than 1? Oh well" but like a total idiot I did not reset the scale, double check etc etc. and just gulped it down. Last night I did 5 TUMS and 130mg, which was less than 1/2 a capsule, so clearly Friday I messed up bad, and it just knocked me out! Yikes! I am amazed I came thru it with no issues, but when I came too I felt fine, still buzzed (had to pee rather bad and was mega hungry & thirsty) and proceeded to enjoy myself. Only later did I put 2 and 2 together and go "holy hell what just happened???" Good thing I probably had a tolerance from doing some 3-4 days earlier. And maybe the 3 shots of vodka I guzzled with some OJ when I started feeling too buzzed helped moderate things somehow.

I am somewhat astounded that an overdose of a stim like that, which had my head swimming as I was first thinking "Whoa this seems alot stronger that it should", did not just make me highly excessively alert, but rather seemed to cause me to somehow safely black out for several hours instead. I guess it was some kind of self-protective "shut off" response by my brain? Anyone ever had anything like this happen on an OD of M1? Maybe an idiosyncratic reaction due to it being a beta-ketone? Maybe, even though M1 is lower on Serotonin release than other neurotranmitters, there was a large enough serotonin release that it overpowered everything else and put me to sleep, which serotonin is known to do? Any theories?

I was awake till about noon Sunday, then I started feeling really sleepy, and crashed till about 5pm, when I got up, ran errands, ate, everything just fine.

I have NEVER done anything close to that erroneous with ANY RC... always VERY careful... I cannot believe I did not heed my one little "that's odd" thought when it took up 1.25 capsules... STUPID STUPID STUPID! I was lustful to get a Friday nite buzz however, and just gobbled the damn things down! What a maroon!

ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK YOUR WEIGHTS AND MEASURES, KIDS!
 
Just dosed 100mg for my first time and starting to feel the first alerts. I'm looking for a nice subtle buzz to ease out my day. All of my priorities have been dealt with and I have the rest of the night free. I have taken an unknown dose of MDMA 2 nights prior with an unknown but small redose (my first MDMA experience in a month).

I plan on playing some instruments, listening to music, and reading/writing, or maybe relaxing by the fire. My mood is sort of neutral, neither positive or negative, simply indifferent. Maybe I can work some things out with myself. Either way, good night y'all
 
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