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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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ps - I actually had a hankering for any extreme porn, and activities as the G made everything seem Vanilla.

I read a good report on G withdrawal protocols and usage from an Ozzie Psychiatrist, who said that long term G users, not using other drugs, had a change in sexual behaviour. I concurred with that.
 
I can kinda relate to the change in sexual behaviour thing somewhat. Not so much myself but Mrs Shambles has definitely had some changes. She kinda rediscovered sex after her divorce and when I introduced her to Guice she became pretty voracious and experimental - a pretty big change for her. Now she finds sex less appealing and more awkward - to the point of almost wanting to avoid it - without G. This is not good as I have been cutting down myself and she only gets it from me. It's more a "Friends with extras" relationship than a traditional relationship we have anyway but the extras are few and far between unless I've got some G in :\
 
My friends have been taking GHB for over 8 years now and are completely dependent on it. They have a tracking book, so that they can make sure to dose every hour. They are convinced that if they were to stop, that they would die. I used to take G with them in our partying days and got stuck on it for a while myself. When I stopped taking it, everything happend. Dizziness, vomitting, shakes, not sleeping, depression, loss of weight...I could go on and on. I pray that someone comes up with something that will help them. I had to end my friendship with them because of the temptation, I miss them. Please stay away from this evil drug.
 
Well I only started taking GBL about 3 months ago, and have been doing maybe 5ml (1ml every 2 hrs) every other Saturday night whilst out clubbing... sometimes without missing a week. Mostly it's on its own but sometimes in combination with, or after I've had enough of, MDMA/Mephdrone etc. I absolutely love it and get a really nice buzz from only 1ml. Some evenings in the week I've thought 'hmmm i feel like having some G' but I never have (well ok maybe I did once or twice), so it doesn't seem to be addictive to me so far. I reckon I'm safe from the addiction thing provided I stick to this frequency/quantity right?
 
You should be totally fine as long as you're strict about it. Addiction usually comes with frequency. 24/7 dosing is where people find they get into trouble. Keep to your minimal use and you should be just fine.

The problem with G is, It usually does creep into your life with out much notice. Weekends become every weekend and a few weeknights. To Every night then to starting earlier in the day. As long as you're strict about your use you should be just fine.

If you start to worry about it, this thread is here for a good reason and there are several people here who can give you "expert" advice and personal advice.

Enjoy your G <3
 
I went every day with GBL for like 2 months, but didn't have any problems stopping as I always only ever used it in the evenings.
Just as long as you don't get onto 24/7 dosing.
Though a few weeks ago when I started on it again, I did start taking it mid afternoon, but that was only because I have to go to bed mega early nowadays due to work starting at 6am the next day.
 
24/7 after two days when anxiety and sleeplessns

Well I only started taking GBL about 3 months ago, and have been doing maybe 5ml (1ml every 2 hrs) every other Saturday night whilst out clubbing... sometimes without missing a week. Mostly it's on its own but sometimes in combination with, or after I've had enough of, MDMA/Mephdrone etc. I absolutely love it and get a really nice buzz from only 1ml. Some evenings in the week I've thought 'hmmm i feel like having some G' but I never have (well ok maybe I did once or twice), so it doesn't seem to be addictive to me so far. I reckon I'm safe from the addiction thing provided I stick to this frequency/quantity right?

There are drugs to stop withdrawal in its tracks. I use baclofen 100mg first day then if after 6 hours when first depersonalisation effect hits me I pop 400-600mg pregabalin. That gets me 6-7 hours good dream sleep. Then 80mg back the second day and 500mg then reduce the baclofen by 20mg a day until you get to 40mg and stay on that for 4 days then reduce by 10mg a day and the pregabalin by 50mg a day until you get to zero, then you'll be off.

If the period of 24/4 usage, or bad withdrawals at any regular dosage, occurs after a period of less than a month, you can try the above using half the dosages.

I've been in a totally fucked state after the wife threw my pregab and bac out and had to drink a bottle of vodka per day at work, and half in the evening to stop the withdrawals. It did the job, but I was monged out most of the time. When I got my p and b back, I was off in three days without withdrawals or the horrid depression and anxiety I would get without them.

If your friends are hopelessly addicted to G, and it sounds like they are, pregabalin and/or baclofen will get them off without withdrawals.

Unfortunately docs won't prescribe it for that purpose as they are totally clueless about GBL/GHB so you have to feign back muscle spasms for baclofen, or bad anxiety for pregabalin.

It also is a great painkiller, especially for neuropathic pain. As is of course GBL. When I was in a detox unit for two weeks after the last serious addiction, I saw a leaflet for Gay men about GBL since it is popular with them. It said it enhances the three Ss (Sound, Sex and Sleep)

It also said it makes it easier to take things up the arse!!!!!!

The rest of the heroin addicts read it and thought I must be gay!! As I was a foot taller, and half a foot wider than all of them, they looked worried when I passed them in the shower with my back and arm tatoos and number one clipper haircut making me look like a hard core prisoner!!

Oh how I laughed as I dropped my towel exposing my massive member (sorry, I'm giggling with a combination of 200mg prebablin, two bottles of guiness foreign extra 7.5% and 2.5ml gbl every three hours!!

Also, the psychiatrist who wrote out my detox thought gbl was a stimulant like cocaine, and I was too stoned to argue.

I suffered like hell and was given olanzapine to stop the hallucinations and a fucking anti histamine (phenergan) for the anxiety.

I had four days of horrific anxiety, and sweated worse than the heroin addicts exuding baby oil like substance that stank of petrol/diesel and was so bad one of the other patients said (that fucking chrome cleaner chucks it out bad"


I'm on a low dose for me of G this evening, ( and all day every two hours and I failed to sleep on 5 mls last night and was hyperactive all night looooonnngg.) which makes me hyper active, and I searched the garage in the dark for my bags of cds, intent on loading 80 onto the computer this even as I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO FUCKING DO IT FOR WHAT REASON I DO NOT KNOW.

Also get hyper on the keyboard and my typing speed increases as my thoughts race, when I get the dose exactly right. Above that, I lose all interest in sex and just mong out or get nasty. I punched the fuck out of a hard door last night and my knuckles are swollen and blue, and one has a large gash as I got several white rages, and threw my mobile phone against the chandelier. The phone survived several hard landings agains the wall and the light.

Why the fuck did I do that? I don't know but in my current state can understand the urge.
 
I am feeling warmth. Fuck you withdrawals.
I want to socialise. Fuck you withdrawals.
I am going to take stimulants. Fuck you withdrawals.
FUCK YOU.

Monday morning I intended to wake up fine. Get rid of my GBL and that'll be the end of this shit. I've shown my self 13+ times that I can't be trusted with GBL. FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUU!
 
Thanks, that was really interesting but there didn't seem to be any mention of sexual behaviour?
 
its in nail polish removes??
why on earth, hope the people using those polish removers dont have any cuts or bad skin around their nails..
 
I'd imagine they'd dilute it extremely heavily for it to be in nail polish remover.
And I struggle to imagine where it still would be in it in the world :?

((((((((((((((( DS )))))))))))))))

Aw mate, hope you can give it a good, hard and lengthy kick into oblivion man ♥
 
yeah ive been out recentley, and ive seen people swallowing little nail wipes, u can buy them in a well known uk high street chemist chain apprently.

not my bag though, ive find it highly amusing the lengths people will go to

i was offered two nail wipes to swallow the other week, lol.

i thought id heard it all

anyway, i politley declined, and said thank you anyway :)
 
they do, but im guessing when people run out, or they are out, its easy for them if they fancy it to pop into that famous national pharmacy, ive even seen what it comes in an orange little plastic box, u pull the wipes out there tiny bits of tissue kind of thing, like a kfc hand wipe but small, and they burn like fuck, clearly the active ingredient. i held one for a split 2nd and it burns your skin.

i seriously couldnt believe what some people do, but i have not only witnessed it but when people are partying or out ive actually had somone offer me two nail wipes to swallow, how mad is that, lol.

now if it had been two real pills, then we would of been talking, lol.

i didntno whetehr to find it antisocial but i couldnt because i just couldnt believe it was happening
 
I know it isn't much compared to some of the people on here, but I've been on GBL for 5 days now, and a couple of hours ago I stopped. I shaking quite a bit, and am slightly anxious. How long until these mild symptoms go away?
 
I know it isn't much compared to some of the people on here, but I've been on GBL for 5 days now, and a couple of hours ago I stopped. I shaking quite a bit, and am slightly anxious. How long until these mild symptoms go away?

5 days constantly, or like just 5 days of a few doses in the evening?
 
Constantly, like dosing every 2 hours and to sleep. Also would a few beers help or hinder?
 
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