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(ab-CHMINACA/PGlycol -?mg) - Fairly experienced - Clear headed. Shocks of euphoria!

lolwhatzdrugs

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(This begins at 12:30AM or like 2:30AM I don't fucking remember.



As it was ordered, the guy has not yet got back to me with the loading (mg/ml) in this bottle. The equally priced powder was a gram. I assume there is probably 40% (400mg) left (just from other people providing that difference between powder and pre made solvents for other stuff, I'll update when he emails me back.))

Cannabis (non-synth experience)

I am extremely experienced with cannabis. I smoked for about five or six years straight (not stopping once), followed by intermittent use. The last couple months have probably been the least I've ever smoked of bud, I quit cigarettes and paying that amount for an eight once a week just seems unnecessary. I got school to pay for!


My point is that I have almost zero tolerance, or at least less than I've ever had since beginning smoking 10 years ago, the largest gaps (I have smoked two hits in the past two weeks :) ).


Synthetic Cannabinoid experience

I have had a total of three previous experiences with synth noids': (this is three years ago):

1. with JWH-122 (1g) which I loved. Pefect high, no anxiety, no racing heart at low doses that cannabis causes after breaking from it for a bit.
2. with 1g AM-2201 which made my fucking hearing get muffled. I could barely hear people talking to me. The effect stopped after after it's blood levels dropped, i.e. immediately when it wore off. Crazy side effect, no permanent damage (from what I can tell anyway).
3. With a single hit from something my friend bought at a head shop. Almost made my heart explode with energy compounded with intense panic. 140bpm instantly. This lasted 5-6 minutes and it was fairly gone. After that quite fucked up experience I figured I was done with these CB1 and some CB2 full agonists. Reading experiences of horrible physical dependencies enforced that view.

I bought this and didn't know whether I'd even bring myself to do it, or toss it. it was like %5 of the order,
so I figured at the first negative effect it's gonna ride the way of the dead goldfish.


Background
I've been up on a stim binge, that probably is qualitatively changing the experience.
Ok, It was sold in PG (Propylene Glycol). The loading not listed, and he hasn't replied to me yet. It cost the same as 1g, but is in PG. I assume they'res 30-50% less, it could be less or more, I don't really know.
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00:00 - I take the tiny plastic tip (those super small ones, maybe 1/4mm hole in the tip) I make a 1.5mm dot on my scale. I slowly take dips with the tip of a ballpoint pen at a time. As loading iunkown, I'm going as slow as possible. I' did that sublingually ,

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00:10 10 minutes. I put the dot on a foil a vape it, small amounts of smoke, mild high coming on, pretty mellow and pleasant, no crazy tachycardia.
00:20 10 more minutes Same dot, seemed like more vapor. It's hard to hit it because it is almost completely transparent. A tiny cloud of smoke is exhaled, bout double the amount before. Now I'm stoned, shocks of euphoria shoot through my body. Wow.

01:00 Same size, still stoned, not near as stoned from that tiny cloud. The crazy euphoria lasted about a minute or two.

1:45 Doing one more 1.5mm dot then going to bed. It's late.

I put the same size dot on a piece of foil a vape it. Miss it all? No change or minor.

2:45 It's perfectly clear, impossible to see so I make a pocket folded up piece. I think I put a bit more than the last few in there, and take the biggest hit I've had so far. Tachycardia, and fuck am I stoned. Sitting, staring at computer screen listening to music.
2:47 I'm fucking stoned, but I'm taking another hit and going to bed. I sure as hell hope this doesn't keep me up for a long time. Weed sometimes does. Honestly, if I had smoked a quarter bowl in a bong I'd be about as high, but there is a difference between the full spectrum feel of any cannabis, but I can't put it into words. More pure? No body load. I wish I knew how much was in each hit, but even if I knew the loading, I'm not quite sure how much came out, two and a half drops? .1-.2ml? I've dosed with a 1ml syringe a hell of a lot of times(not IV so I'm somewhat used to seeing the quantities, but this is so fucking clear I can hardly tell.

Conclusion

It was alright. I'm not sure it's something I'd like to do constantly. I need to study some math tomorrow, I'll see if it has the same effect of some cannabis where I can't pay attention to shit. That's only a few types, many highs are functional, my memory isn't screwed (like recall of the name of the main character in war in peace (Bezukhov ;) ) Guess I'm not that stoneded.

I'm going to bed. Night.

Edit: it continues. Change of plans, Due to the binge on stimulants I forgot to take another dose of loperamide yesterday, (took 20mg) and took none today. Stuck in withdrawals, the loperamide I took will take two hours or so to kick in and my legs won't be on fire. I took about 3mg of etizolam, can't even tell I took it much.


So, I remembered I have one of these for an ecig, brand new. It was impossible to see on foil, hard to hit it exactly and you lose all the smoke. I am gonna be careful because now ALL the smoke is captured perfectly, I
think I missed most of it last time without this thing and it's more potent than I think. I'm gonna do realy short bursts lol.


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It is actually fairly forgiving. In an actual tank it would be WAY too much smoke.

That's a piece of cotton wound with a coil which glows. I have another unopened one too lol, but I sure as hell wouldn't fill a tank with this stuff!

Oh dear God. Did I just fuck up? I said in the synth noid thread this would be a bad idea. I used ecigs for quitting smoking (5 months or close - whatever) I hit them randomly and without thinking. All the sudden I see the biggest puff I've hit so far go out lol when I hit a regular one I hit it quite strongly. They're older tanks, take more suction. This thing is just a wire that glows orange and two drops of PG.

Did I mention this stuff tastes sweet, but in a good way? Odd for most stuff, and any synth I've ever had. Ethylphenidate is like plastic.
 
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Retrix

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AB-CHMINACA 5mg/mL propylene glycol

I weighed 102mg accurately into a dropper bottle, dissolved it in a minimum of acetone, then diluted to 5mg/mL propylene glycol and evaporated off the acetone. The e-cig that I use doses about 5mg hits per drag, took two hits... guessing total delivered was 25ug. 1-2 minute come up and about 2 hours for the primary high. You can probably get away with a 1/5 dilution of even this. I would definitely invest the time into making an accurate dosage method with this one and it has serious "double rainbow" potential :D.

BP
Pre Post (T+15 minutes @ plateau)
135/95 145/100

HR
Resting Post (T+15 minutes @ plateau)
65-70 ~125


Down to +- 5% resting in two hours. Increased focus, but multitasking is hindered.

For reference, a quadruple shot latte gets my vitals about 50-75% of what this produces.
 
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lolwhatzdrugs

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I weighed 102mg accurately into a dropper bottle, dissolved it in a minimum of acetone, then diluted to 5mg/mL propylene glycol and evaporated off the acetone. The e-cig that I use doses about 5mg hits per drag, took two hits... guessing total delivered was 25ug. 1-2 minute come up and about 2 hours for the primary high. You can probably get away with a 1/5 dilution of even this. I would definitely invest the time into making an accurate dosage method with this one and it has serious "double rainbow" potential :D.

Appreciate the reply! I was stoned enough to make pretty rainbow/psychedelic text and arrows and not a peep!

I can't make a solution as I lack any powder lol, but I do have PEG. I'm not gonna bother with ordering powder though, it's nice to have if I want to take a tiny hit a feel a mild buzz, but I haven't really pushed it. I've read enough about these potent full agonists that if I want to get high, I'll pay the premium for real cannabis and vape it.... after it runs low of couse :)


It's crazy how different these things are, or maybe it's the loading? My friend bought a gram or two of the pre-loaded 'herb' fro a headshop. 1 hit almost gave me a full on panic attack. NOTHING like the potencies around whhen Jwh was still legal.

It's like they went from decent ones to fucked up ones and bac k to mild ones. Again, could just be loading, I haven't enough experience with this class (the full agonists, not cannabis in 4eneral ) to be a good judge.

I was scared to piut it directly into an ecig btank... A hit from a single dro still gets me pretty buzzed, if I let out a cloud like I do from actual nicotine juice I'd probabl fall over/have a panic attack or pboth at the same time.
 

Sven Klaphos

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That bottle is estimated to be 10mg/ml

If anyone is going to use this with a normal ecig: if your coils don't get hot enough, some of the Chminaca will stay on it and not evaporate. I've replaced the juice and cleaned the tank, but the rest will evaporate after I've done so.

Also, be warned, this stuff is known to be toxic if abused, starting signs of toxicity include vomiting, nausea, and gastrointestinal complications. It's also slightly addictive.

Be safe guys.
 
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