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Global Events Armenia Under Attack Again/Still

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I most certainly was aware of the genocide but have to admit that it's one of the few things I do know.

While I make no assurances to balance, the CIA factbooks do at least give people a place to start:



I think the history of The Caucuses is something overlooked in history education, so nobody really understands what is happening.
 
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I most certainly was aware of the genocide but have to admit that it's one of the few things I do know.

While I make no assurances to balance, the CIA factbooks do at least give people a place to start:



I think the history of The Caucuses is something overlooked in history education, so nobody really understands what is happening.

It really is and it's sad because Armenia has the oldest Christian culture in the world. It's stunning.

 

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I most certainly was aware of the genocide but have to admit that it's one of the few things I do know.

While I make no assurances to balance, the CIA factbooks do at least give people a place to start:



I think the history of The Caucuses is something overlooked in history education, so nobody really understands what is happening.

Oh those links are good, thanks. I knew absolutely nothing til I started talking to this guy.. I was helping him with his English (which was obviously not his first language but now his writing is better than a lot of native English speakers).

After following this conflict for a few years I've become quite passionate about the Armenian cause because it really is SO unfair.
 

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Read about Ingushetia. They were/are in a similar position. Genocide, deportation on masse, Ossetian paramilitary group 'The Forest'(I think that is the translation) supposedly backed by Russia.

Again, I do not say I have the story right, it seems very complex. Tiny nations based on ethnic groupings and/or religion with very bad security issues.

Right up until now Ingush people are called 'black arses' by some Russians and their seems to be convenient criminal charges thrown at anyone who records what is going on.

Maybe your friends would know much, much more than I.
 

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Read about Ingushetia. They were/are in a similar position. Genocide, deportation on masse, Ossetian paramilitary group 'The Forest'(I think that is the translation) supposedly backed by Russia.

Again, I do not say I have the story right, it seems very complex. Tiny nations based on ethnic groupings and/or religion with very bad security issues.

Right up until now Ingush people are called 'black arses' by some Russians and their seems to be convenient criminal charges thrown at anyone who records what is going on.

Maybe your friends would know much, much more than I.

Oh it's in the North Caucasus, separated only by Georgia from Armenia. The Georgians aren't too bad I don't think. But Russia.. I don't know enough. I'll try to remember to ask my friend about Ingushetia.
 

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COMEDY RELIEF

In 2020 one of our (ex) politicians took a trip to Azerbaijan (paid for by Azerbaijan). He came back and announced, "we have a lot to learn from Azerbaijan's democracy".

Another politician laid into him on live news..


"You've got a despot who specialises in nepotism who hired his wife as Vice-President, and you're telling us that we've got something to learn from them," Khalil said. "That's just utterly ridiculous."

He continued: "You had your trip paid by the Azerbaijani government, I get it. But do not talk down Australia's democracy. We have an independent Australian Electoral Commission, we have one of the most thorough and rigid processes in one of the best, democratic systems in the world."

Kelly did concede, as he had in a Sydney Morning Herald article exposing his comments, that Azerbaijan has "had the same family ruling there as President - father and son - since the Soviet occupation ended", but he still referred to the country as "a fledgling democracy".



The full story is here: http://www.anc.org.au/news/Media-Re...-your-trip-paid-by-the-Azerbaijani-government


Enter Comedian and Political Commentator, Friendlyjordies aka Jordan Shanks:



Followed by:



AND THEN:



 

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Australia 👍✊✌️🇦🇺🇦🇲



SYDNEY: The most Armenian-populated municipality in Australia, Ryde City Council will make representations to their local Federal and State members of parliament calling on Australian Government condemnation of Azerbaijan's assault on and encroachment into Armenia's sovereign territories after unanimously adopting a motion standing in solidarity with the Armenian-Australian community, reported the Armenian National Committee of Australia (ANC-AU).

The Mayoral Minute motion was proposed by City of Ryde Mayor, Councillor Jordan Lane and seconded by Armenian-Australian Councillor Sarkis Yedelian OAM. It passed unanimously at the council meeting held on 27 September 2022.

The passage adopted resolved that council will write to the local Federal and State members of parliament, requesting they make representations to the Federal Government to "call on the withdrawal of Azerbaijan’s armed forces from the territories of Armenia and Artsakh, to "recognise the right to self-determination of the indigenous Armenians of the Republic of Artsakh and the independence of the Republic of Artsakh" and "call on the governments of Azerbaijan and Turkey to respect the OSCE Minsk Group peace process for the Karabakh/Artsakh conflict, in particular, the non-use of force".

The City of Ryde has championed Armenian-Australian issues of importance since the council became the first local government body in Australia to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide in 2005. Since then the City of Ryde has also recognised the rights to self-determination of the Armenian Republic of Artsakh, established a Friendship City relationship with Artsakh’s capital, Stepanakert, and became the first municipality to raise the Artsakh flag in an unprecedented sign of solidarity for the country that was largely occupied by Azerbaijan following the 44-day war in 2020.

ANC-AU Executive Director, Michael Kolokossian thanked the City of Ryde Councillors for their ongoing and non-partisan support.

"We thank Mayor Jordan Lane, Councillor Sarkis Yedelian and their fellow councillors on this important show of support to the Armenian-Australian community in the City of Ryde," Kolokossian said.

"Our community sincerely appreciates this reaffirmation of support for the Armenian-Australian community and issues that are of serious concern to us. We are hopeful that the Australian Foreign Minister will follow in the footsteps of the Ryde City Council and publicly and immediately condemn Azerbaijan’s failure to fully adhere to the Nagorno Karabakh ceasefire agreement,” Kolokossian added.

The area's Federal Member for Bennelong Jerome Laxale, a former Mayor of the City of Ryde, has also called out Azerbaijan’s violation of Armenia’s territorial integrity via social media, noting that he too has written to the Australian Foreign Minister on this issue.

The full Mayoral Minute passed by the City of Ryde can be read below.

 

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This Alliance is an international, de-centralized, global network of many organizations. It works to bring pressure upon the UN, regional organizations, and national governments to act on early warnings and take action to prevent genocide.

The Alliance Against Genocide is an international coalition dedicated to creating the international institutions and the political will to prevent genocide. Founded in 1999, the Alliance is made up of over 65 organizations from around the world and was the first coalition of organizations focused completely on preventing genocide.




 
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I am full of respect for Armenia and its culture.. They are the first christian state in History, and have endured so many wars, turkish genocide included. I only have good feelings for that nation.
But they not allways behaved correctly. We know that Azerbaijan was trying to take Nagorno Karabaj for a long time.
But Karabaj is not the only territorial conflict between the two countries. There is also a place called Najichevan. Just like Karabaj is an Armenian "island" into Azerbaijan, said Najichevan is an azeri Island between Armenia and Iran (also a little part of it has a border with Turkey).
During the soviet age, Moscow granted two corridors to make posible the connection between Armenia and Karabaj, called Lachin corridor, and also the Zanzegur corridor between Azerbaijan and Najichevan.

Well, after soviet fall, Armenia won the war they fought against Azerbaijan and secured the Karabaj area and the Lachin alley, but they closed the Zanzegur one, breaking the agreement. They didn't allow azeri citizens to travel across the armenian province of Syunik, so they were forced to travel very long distances across Iran for decades, with all the economic and social consecuences of such a decision. Azerbaijan, as we understand, was not very happy seeing its corridor closed at the same time that they were required and threatened to respect and keep open the armenian one.
Of course, that was not the only cause for the azeri agresión of 2020, I think Azerbaijan, with all the turkish support, would had done it anyway, even if armenian respected the alley, but disrespecting it sure didn't help. Don't really know about the situation in Zanzegur now, but I have read the azeri president saying they and Turkey will reopen and secure the corridor despite Armenia liking it or not. So I think trouble is far from and end, sadly.

Balkans and Caucasus are places were peace doesn't camp for too long.
Tragedy
 
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