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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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t_xeplionhell said:
Se c'è la possibilità di riprendersi, forse la morte non è un'opzione migliore, ma dipende anche da quanto qualcuno può sopportare questa dura sofferenza. Ma dopo che ad esempio sono trascorsi 3-5 anni e nessun recupero di almeno il 70 per cento con il recupero che non progredisce più , allora non vale la pena vivere così per tutta la vita.
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quante iniezioni? dici che il danno è permanente? è impossibile che tu non abbia una risposta precisa... pensavo che 1 anno finisse l'effetto
 
t_xeplionhell said:
If there is chance to recover perhaps death isn't better option, but that also depends on how much somebody can endure this hard suffering. But after for example 3-5 years pass and no at least 70 percent recovery with recovery no longer progressing, then it is not worth living like that for lifetime.
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too hard to live like this, I don't know how long I'll last,I can't wait 3 or 5 years, I had a life, big plans, I'd rather die
 
Fanzy said:
too hard to live like this, I don't know how long I'll last,I can't wait 3 or 5 years, I had a life, big plans, I'd rather die
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And i don’t fucking undestand,i know a guy who had 1 years of invega poison and he recovered after a year, another who had at least 7 injections and also recovered in a year, what scares me is the time it takes to heal if healing there is of course pfff. medicine is supposed to help people with their ailments and I learn that in truth it is absolutely the opposite, what kind of idiots are these people who earn billions to offer hell. pay to kill! they are considered to be intelligent people, it's more of a conspiracy I think. what a bunch of idiots
 
Yeah i recovered 3 times from pills and injections. Each time took around a year to recover. Recovery is possible. Now im trying to recover from a years worth of injections. Ive been off for about 2 months so far and not really noticing progress. Im not taking naps in middle of day anymore. And im able to masterbate like once a day now instead of every other day. Im just worried about getting psychosis again. Ideally i dont want to get it. But if i do i have to take pills until the psychosis goes away and hopefully parents dont notice im in psychosis. I dont want them taking me to a mental hospital again.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
how many months are you off.
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Gdvffh said:
Yeah i recovered 3 times from pills and injections. Each time took around a year to recover. Recovery is possible. Now im trying to recover from a years worth of injections. Ive been off for about 2 months so far and not really noticing progress. Im not taking naps in middle of day anymore. And im able to masterbate like once a day now instead of every other day. Im just worried about getting psychosis again. Ideally i dont want to get it. But if i do i have to take pills until the psychosis goes away and hopefully parents dont notice im in psychosis. I dont want them taking me to a mental hospital again.
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If you be aware when youre in psychosis ..i think you can handle it ...keep your awareness on..so you can handle it...just be alert all the time.

Gdvffh said:
Yeah i recovered 3 times from pills and injections. Each time took around a year to recover. Recovery is possible. Now im trying to recover from a years worth of injections. Ive been off for about 2 months so far and not really noticing progress. Im not taking naps in middle of day anymore. And im able to masterbate like once a day now instead of every other day. Im just worried about getting psychosis again. Ideally i dont want to get it. But if i do i have to take pills until the psychosis goes away and hopefully parents dont notice im in psychosis. I dont want them taking me to a mental hospital again.
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Also you can use lamictal for your mood..it prevents the mania and doesnt effec cognitive functiouns...it may help.
 
Aaaaand today I cried a bit too, over the fear of never recovering, having all the docs against me and being stuck as an inferior version of myself with major cognitive impairment and lack of empathy


as far as physically being able to laugh at jokes, cry about my awful condition and show anger it seems like I can do it all: I get more confused about myself off invega as days pass


the feeling of excitement is nowhere to be seen either...
 
Gdvffh said:
Yeah i recovered 3 times from pills and injections. Each time took around a year to recover. Recovery is possible. Now im trying to recover from a years worth of injections. Ive been off for about 2 months so far and not really noticing progress. Im not taking naps in middle of day anymore. And im able to masterbate like once a day now instead of every other day. Im just worried about getting psychosis again. Ideally i dont want to get it. But if i do i have to take pills until the psychosis goes away and hopefully parents dont notice im in psychosis. I dont want them taking me to a mental hospital again.
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3 Times of injection Invega?
 
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Jerry Atrick said:
You may have answered this previously but I don't remember. Is there any reason you can't be prescribed a medication in pill form rather than injection?

It seems like with many of the anti-psychotics, the injectables carry more harmful side effects than pills. I don't know why but even in my experience with Risperdal, the pills weren't too bad but the anhedonia and other problems didn't set in until they made me take a few injections.

If you are under court order or otherwise have no choice, then I personally don't know. Given the experiences reflected in this thread however, it seems like Invega would probably be the wrong answer. Once again, I'm not a doctor and have never taken Invega but I have taken Risperdal pills and shots as well as Abilify pills for over 10 years. Abilify had the least side effects of any anti-psychotic I have taken BUT I have never had it in injectable form so cannot speak from experience in that regard.
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THXXX for sharing your response! I am on a court order & being forced to take the shots ~ I asked them for orals but they think I will be ‘non-compliant’…
 
I tried weed today because people say they can’t feel weed on invega. I got high as a kite. It must be some other drug you’re on if weed isn’t working cuz INVEGA sure didn’t do that to me.
 
Hi, I would like to know if anyone recovered their fitness? I had 6 injections and after 12 months I have not been able to do any strenuous activity, this not being able to do anything other than sit around all day and waste my life away, not being able to do anything without becoming out of breath was an immediate effect of the drug and not something that has progressed with time. I was strong and fit before this, I could run or ride bike for hours if I wanted, now just walking a few steps is a major effort and puts me out of breath. I'm sure I have aged at the cellular level, antipsychotics cause epigentic changes( gene expression changes that turn genes off) , if you change the nerve cells function you affect how the whole body functions. I hope this is reversible, because I'd like to be as fit as I was before these dictators wanted to suppress me.
 
Fanzy said:
big thank you, your message gives me hope, I lost so much because of this shit, how many injections did you have?
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3 months worth i think then i was switched to abilify which sucked as bad. Now im on latuda and don't get any side effects
 
Psychiatryisadictatorship said:
Hi, I would like to know if anyone recovered their fitness? I had 6 injections and after 12 months I have not been able to do any strenuous activity, this not being able to do anything other than sit around all day and waste my life away, not being able to do anything without becoming out of breath was an immediate effect of the drug and not something that has progressed with time. I was strong and fit before this, I could run or ride bike for hours if I wanted, now just walking a few steps is a major effort and puts me out of breath. I'm sure I have aged at the cellular level, antipsychotics cause epigentic changes( gene expression changes that turn genes off) , if you change the nerve cells function you affect how the whole body functions. I hope this is reversible, because I'd like to be as fit as I was before these dictators wanted to suppress me.
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Can you watch tv or listen to music? I also had 6 injections and I feel the worse of the forum. I lye all day in bed. I can do nothing
 
Fanzy said:
3 Times of injection Invega?
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No. First time was risperidone. Then abilify injection. Then flupenexiol injection. My parents keep forcing me on meds when they realize im im psychosis. It sucks and i hate being on these antipsychotics.

Theres supposed to be newer antipsychotics coming out which dont antagonize dopamine receptors. One os ulotaront and another is karxt. Im hoping there better then the current meds we have as these meds are really horrible. I wosh they find better medications for psychosis so ppl dont have to take this shit anymore.
 
rmakoutz1 said:
I tried weed today because people say they can’t feel weed on invega. I got high as a kite. It must be some other drug you’re on if weed isn’t working cuz INVEGA sure didn’t do that to me.
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Same I was getting stoned to the bone while invega was in my system and I still do.. lol I'm smoking a strain called Lemon Glue as I speak. In my older post I stayed I never got euphoria, but I do now, almost took 2 years for that aspect of the high too return.. but it feels amazing to get that rush when you take a hit and get fried, but the euphoria only last for like 10-20 mins depending the strain. But with hard drugs I did back in the day the euphoria would last for hours lol. I definitely don't smoke all day everyday like I use too but I be smoking errday
 
Bigsmoke420 said:
Same I was getting stoned to the bone while invega was in my system and I still do.. lol I'm smoking a strain called Lemon Glue as I speak. In my older post I stayed I never got euphoria, but I do now, almost took 2 years for that aspect of the high too return.. but it feels amazing to get that rush when you take a hit and get fried, but the euphoria only last for like 10-20 mins depending the strain. But with hard drugs I did back in the day the euphoria would last for hours lol. I definitely don't smoke all day everyday like I use too but I be smoking errday
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have you regained your ability to get high?
 
Psychiatryisadictatorship said:
Hi, I would like to know if anyone recovered their fitness? I had 6 injections and after 12 months I have not been able to do any strenuous activity, this not being able to do anything other than sit around all day and waste my life away, not being able to do anything without becoming out of breath was an immediate effect of the drug and not something that has progressed with time. I was strong and fit before this, I could run or ride bike for hours if I wanted, now just walking a few steps is a major effort and puts me out of breath. I'm sure I have aged at the cellular level, antipsychotics cause epigentic changes( gene expression changes that turn genes off) , if you change the nerve cells function you affect how the whole body functions. I hope this is reversible, because I'd like to be as fit as I was before these dictators wanted to suppress me.
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Hello @Psychiatryisadictatorship and welcome to Bluelight! Sorry to hear you can no longer do strenuous activity like before.

Please read the below post, which I dug up from several pages back. I forgot how many injections @EsseWasGreat got, but after 2 months off they have been able to exercise. Remember that most anti-psychotics treat individuals differently, so one person may recover faster or slower than another.
EsseWasGreat said:
Here I should mark the little progress I made at just 2 months off and right before checking in with the psych:

-Obviously I still suffer from anhedonia and cognitive issues: I spend most of my day at home in bed looking at walls, browsing this thread or gluing my eyes on YouTube pretending to actually watch stuff (I can't make out much of what I'm looking at most of the time)

-TV shows are also very hard to follow to the point in which I just sort of give up after a few minutes.

-Reading is also extremely hard and that's something I wish I can get back asap

-Emotions feel either completely absent or fake: sometimes I let out a little chuckle for a really clever joke but I don't really feel happiness from it. Sometimes I get really annoyed at things but I don't get angry or sad over anything though I did cry during the first month off while talking to my therapist about all the things I've lost because of Invega (and almost cried a second time when I saw a co-worker being extremely energetic and happy to do stuff because it reminded me of how I used to be). Music also does absolutely nothing to me emotion-wise and I have no idea of how I will possibly get that back

-Sometimes I go outside with my parents for a walk or to help with their work/groceries. I feel extremely lucky to be in a situation where they're against Xeplion/Invega just like I am while also being supportive and encouraging me to do some simple activities outside.

-A few times a week I also get encouragement from a dear friend (who is aware of my situation) to play some complex fast-paced video games, though I'm still not sure if it's a good idea to overstimulate my brain with this kind of activity since it kinda hurts to focus while doing it and the anhedonia makes it just feel gross anyway (Having gotten a lot worse at playing them doesn't help). Other than that I can handle Minesweeper and some Sudoku on my own when I need to pass some time (just a little though)

-I am capable of taking walks on my own for at least 1 hour a day, I walk around the 5km track that I used to run 3 times a week regularly right before injection.

-Occasionally (like once a week) I am also capable of alternating a couple of very short jogs (like 1km) to my walking sessions, though my stamina has drastically lowered to the point of being unable to even attempt this very often (I used to run 5km nonstop alternating full sprints the day before my first injection and barely even take a sweat but now even a short 1km jog leaves me with no breath)

-My physical strength is also way lower: I still do a bit of exercises with my dumbbells sometimes, as well as some situps once a week. I know I should go for more but the pain and the lack of motivation keep getting the best of me

-The weight gain doesn't seem to be noticeable to others while I'm wearing a shirt (they do notice my face being less thin and they just say I look better this way but I strongly disagree) but I sure do feel it, especially on my back which makes the aforementioned exercising that much harder to do, though I'm still not sure if it's caused by Invega or if it's because I've been letting my parents cook for me instead of doing it myself (they cook A LOT more than I used to do). One of my fears is that this issue is only going to get worse for the next months even if I make sure to be as strict as possible on my diet because of everyone else's experience with it for the first 4 months.

-I have this strange type of constipation in which I just get no stimulus which tells me I need to go to the bathroom, I actually have to remind myself every couple days to go or else the body will never send the signal. I spent the first 5-6 weeks taking large amounts of laxatives thinking it was just a regular constipation

-I have erectile dysfunction, as expected (didn't check my prolactin yet but it's probably all-fuck high). This would not be an issue to me if I didn't end up in a situation in which some chick just confessed her feelings to me and I have to try and hide this fact until it's hopefully solved

-I believe it's important to mention that I never smoked, did drugs or get much into alcohol in my entire life. Hopefully this plays a nice role in the possibilities of my recovery

-I'm currently taking Delorazepam to help with insomnia (it seems to be working, though I'm probably taking a huge amount as prescribed by my old doc) but that's about the only drug I'm taking right now

-My daily supplements currently consist of a multivitamin containing B3,B6,B12,C,D,Magnesium, Zinc and then I have Fish Oil containing O3,DHA and EPA. I drink coffee twice a day (one in the early morning and one in the late morning).
When the situation demands it I also take one stick of Akuten which contains Folic Acid, Thiamine and Sam-E. I also believe I drink an appropriate amount of water almost every day

-I have access to 5htp and st john's wort, though I'm holding on to them for when the time is right (IE after visiting the new doc and coming off Delorazepam)

-My birthday is fairly soon, July 13th. It's probably going to be the worst birthday of my life but I would like to receive some tangible improvements and signs that I will be able to fully recover as a gift. A wise man once said that life gets a lot better if you manage to get past your 30s without any major permanent fuckups. Now I'm soon to be 31 and Xeplion has been a major fuckup which hopefully doesn't end up being permanent on me.
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