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Heroin Explain me why did I not get withdrawal please?

It sounds to me that you're still at the stage where the fear of withdrawal is worse than the withdrawal itself.

So you've been using 2g/day for 6 months? In my experience it's not the amount you take, it's the length of time you've been taking it that determines the severity and speed of onset of withdrawal. I reckon 15 hours with no significant symptoms is very doable at your level of habit, though you did say you had a bad headache which was often one of the first symptoms to manifest when I was doing it.

Also, benzos are very good at delaying onset. I'm guessing you used again when you woke up though?

Your addiction can't be as bad as you think it is otherwise you would have been into that bag as soon as you got home instead of dropping a benzo and going to sleep.


So to answer your question, you simply didn't stop using for long enough for the withdrawal to kick in and delayed the onset with the temazepam.



However, rest assured that if you carry on like this you'll soon be climbing the walls after only four hours.
 
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chinup said:
i felt like you.

i had very severe CPTSD and i was basically living in constant flashbacks, and only heroin helped. it helped so well that i didn't even realise i was suffering from a trauma related disorder. in rehab i had specialised therapy (EMDR and ART) and it helped so much. i still have CPTSD but it is mostly controlled by medication and avoiding known triggers. for me this is a much better long term management strategy than heroin, because having that monkey on my back made me hate myself so much.

if you follow the normal path of junkies, eventually heroin will stop working and you'll escalate and escalate until you collapse under the pressure of the addiction, and lose a lot in the process.
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I am well aware my friend

It is a risk I chose to take, like I have done many times in my life

Rn I have no other choice
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
It sounds to me that you're still at the stage where the fear of withdrawal is worse than the withdrawal itself.

So you've been using 2g/day for 6 months? In my experience it's not the amount you take, it's the length of time you've been taking it that determines the severity and speed of onset of withdrawal. I reckon 15 hours with no significant symptoms is very doable at your level of habit, though you did say you had a bad headache which was often one of the first symptoms to manifest when I was doing it.

Also, benzos are very good at delaying onset. I'm guessing you used again when you woke up though?

Your addiction can't be as bad as you think it is otherwise you would have been into that bag as soon as you got home instead of dropping a benzo and going to sleep.


So to answer your question, you simply didn't stop using for long enough for the withdrawal to kick in and delayed the onset with the temazepam.



However, rest assured that if you carry on like this you'll soon be climbing the walls after only four hours.
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Thanks, this explanation makes sense

What if I restrict my dosage to no more than half gram a day? Will WDs be severe after let's say 1 year of using?
 
menidiatis said:
I was supposed to get H yesterday 2300 but my dealer pissed on me and we didn't meet until 1100 (today morning.)

However when I got home I decided I wanted to sleep more, so I did not use H, and instead took temazepam 15mg and fell asleep till 1400. Even when I woke up then (15 hours after using) I had no symptom of any sort.

The worst symptom of WD that I had was a persistent fear that I will get WD. I was thinking of it all the time, and reading in bluelight what to do. I also had a horrible headache but that was before I didn't sleep in the night due to not taking benzos (I am chronic insomniac with broken sleep and can't sleep without a weak dose of benzo).

TLDR: why did I not get any WD after not using for 15 hours, with a 2 grams a day smoking habit for 6 months now
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Your lucky I was already heavily addicted to opiates when I started heroin but after 6 months I was deck 100% dependant physically and most especially mentally to.. don't go back
 
menidiatis said:
I said already 6 months, 2 grams a day on avg
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2 grams a day.. Damm that's high what country you in? Is your gear brown or China white? And whats the price? I'm just curious to know what countries charge for H.
I have been using on and off for 20 years and a half of China white or even a Q is plenty...
A Q is $150 and half is 250.
But it mixes up in cold water and is clear like water most of the time.
Not like the Mexican Tar or Afghanistan brown, I have never seen that tar in Australia. Brown yes but seems to be rarer.
 
Senseimilla said:
2 grams a day.. Damm that's high what country you in? Is your gear brown or China white? And whats the price? I'm just curious to know what countries charge for H.
I have been using on and off for 20 years and a half of China white or even a Q is plenty...
A Q is $150 and half is 250.
But it mixes up in cold water and is clear like water most of the time.
Not like the Mexican Tar or Afghanistan brown, I have never seen that tar in Australia. Brown yes but seems to be rarer.
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Netherlands
Dealer claim it is 50% pure, so safe to assume much less than that
The gear is afghan brown, price is 60 euros for 5 grams
China white from what I know is actually fentanyl? So I can imagine half G of that is more than enough
I am a daily user so I probably have much more tolerance compared to an on off user
 
menidiatis said:
I was supposed to get H yesterday 2300 but my dealer pissed on me and we didn't meet until 1100 (today morning.)

However when I got home I decided I wanted to sleep more, so I did not use H, and instead took temazepam 15mg and fell asleep till 1400. Even when I woke up then (15 hours after using) I had no symptom of any sort.

The worst symptom of WD that I had was a persistent fear that I will get WD. I was thinking of it all the time, and reading in bluelight what to do. I also had a horrible headache but that was before I didn't sleep in the night due to not taking benzos (I am chronic insomniac with broken sleep and can't sleep without a weak dose of benzo).

TLDR: why did I not get any WD after not using for 15 hours, with a 2 grams a day smoking habit for 6 months now
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There have been times that I've cold turkeyed opioids and other than some tummy issues, I was very much totally fine. It was weird to me, but sometimes when you are having a good time (especially in a new place) I barely notice it. Other times, I just want to crawl into bed and die. Opiates are an incredibly complex design that affect the body--I want to say more than any drug but that could be arbitrary--in ways that are often forgotten.

I do think however, that if life is going well for you.. in turn you won't feel it as much. There's a huge difference between opiate withdrawal when your current situation is in the mud with addiction, and you've got no money or friends really (that's what it feels like when the worst sickness hits), and the "well whatever they really didn't do much for me anyway so maybe something new would be nice." Hard to not return though. Harder than anything ever lol when your cup of tea is this one.

The withdrawal is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Nothing compared to how dark it gets to use opiates day after day and the financial misery/actual misery that ensues from that path. Being dopesick beyond recognition does not even put a dent in the damage that opiate usage will do to any one person.
 
menidiatis said:
Netherlands
Dealer claim it is 50% pure, so safe to assume much less than that
The gear is afghan brown, price is 60 euros for 5 grams
China white from what I know is actually fentanyl? So I can imagine half G of that is more than enough
I am a daily user so I probably have much more tolerance compared to an on off user
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Naaghh, it's not fent, I have had to have a blood test after being pulled over for driving.. and it came back as diamorphine from memory.
But it is strong when I started 20 years back $25 would put you on the nod all day.
As we are closer to the golden triangle Asia, Burma etc I spose it comes from there.
I'm guessing...,.
 
Senseimilla said:
Naaghh, it's not fent, I have had to have a blood test after being pulled over for driving.. and it came back as diamorphine from memory.
But it is strong when I started 20 years back $25 would put you on the nod all day.
As we are closer to the golden triangle Asia, Burma etc I spose it comes from there.
I'm guessing...,.
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Heroin here in NL is really good, I scored 17 grams today for only 200 euros and the quality is excellent, smells nice and tastes delicious

In Greece they only sell 8 euro per G crap that is at best 5% pure, I remember last summer when I had no tolerance I would smoke 5 grams in a day and people here were thinking (justifiably so) that I am giving bs

Unfortunately now for 3 weeks I ll have to zmoke that shit only now I have a big tolerance already

Sucks
 
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