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Heroin Heroin, what I predicted, not what I expected

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I used H for the first time 2.5 hours ago. I injected into my arm after a drawn out process trying to puncture a vein. A few weeks ago I did a dry run to see if I was capable of doing it and managed to find one relatively quickly. I don't know what happened this time but it took multiple sites, multiple minutes each to successfully place the end of the needle into my bloodstream and see a warm spurt of blood shoot into the syringe. I pushed the plunger partway down at first out of caution. Once I felt a slight tingle and warmth that ceased growing I pushed in the rest. The rush was almost immediate, unlike any drug that's entered my body before it. My dose was small, an unknown quantity because my scale accurate to a milligram didn't detect anything on it. A shimmied some powder onto it waiting for a reading, aiming for just a few mg's but apparently my scale isn't accurate enough to pick up on quantities that small. I stopped when it seemed like a good beginner dose to my eye. If I had to guess I'd say it was in the neighborhood of ~5, though I am not familiar enough with this substance to give an accurate estimate. I then only emptied half of that into my preparation container and proceeded to dissolve, filter, and inject it. It was intense but not nearly as powerful as I imagine the subjective upper limit is. For the first 30 seconds after the full dose I felt cozy and euphoric. The latter feeling subsided shortly after, fading into an uplifting state of mind that has yet to fully leave. It didn't take long for the forewarned nausea to kick in. Gradually it built up and up until two open windows letting in the blizzard outside with a fan on full blast caressing my face couldn't hold in the days lunch any longer. I emptied the contents of my stomach into my waiting trashcan. As I was typing this just a few sentences ago I vomited again. I felt confident enough to have a small snack of fruit water and tea before typing this, but I guess I was wrong. After clearing my esophagus with sips of water I lay down in bed and had a very pleasant waking nap. The feeling in my body was still present as I took in just how good it felt to lie down and dissolve into the mattress. During this time I noticed slight auditory distortions that seemed to occur simultaneously with small involuntary moments. Looking back on this experience I can understand why someone would become addicted to this though I don't think this is a substantial concern for myself. It was pleasant, but not entirely. And the high was great, but felt dirty. I'm debating whether or not I intend on using H again. I feel a slight desire to but it's not very compelling. I think I'm leaning a bit more towards yes, but right now even as I have another syringe loaded and ready to go that I prepared as well, I don't feel like using it.
 
So I broke my arm and was on 20 mg hydro for about a week. In the middle of this escapade I was nodding off and asked myself a question about some dude that I was dealing with. And I heard an old lady respond with, “I know right” I shot straight out of the bed, freaking out about possible pschizophrenia, but calmed myself down by saying, I just have a 6th sense lol
But nah you’re probably good. Are you around friends? Anyone that’s sitting ya. Just be careful bub, and enjoy your ride.
 
5mg of heroin? Street grade? 5mg of pharmaceutical diamorphine would surely do something, not sure what 5mg of say 35% pure street heroin would do.

In any event, the wise thing to do now would be to flush the remainder and consider the experiment completed.
 
5mg of heroin? Street grade? 5mg of pharmaceutical diamorphine would surely do something, not sure what 5mg of say 35% pure street heroin would do.

In any event, the wise thing to do now would be to flush the remainder and consider the experiment completed.
Not street grade. Ordered online, quality. So it's probably super duper healthy. I'll probably get a get out of cancer free card.
 
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Be careful.

I first tried opioids in my teens. Hydrocodones. Couldn't understand really what people saw in them at the time. All they did was make me puke.

Flash forward about 15 years and I've been dependent on tramadol, diacetylmorphine, buprenorphine, etc.. ever since.

Opiates are one of those drugs where it takes a couple of times using them before they really start to become "worthwhile".
But some times those dysphoric, nauseated experiences can return even after years of using.


I love heroin & think it should be legalized for adult use. But please, unless you think this drug will severely help a mental disorder you have or you are in chronic pain, I would not suggest contuining to try and find out what it's all about.

Have a job? You won't after a few weeks of heroin use & the heroin runs out. Unless they're alright with you just sitting out for a week or more to get better. And I'm not even gonna touch on post-acute withdrawal syndrome.


I know you said you got yours online but for those who can't/don't...........
Some dealers cut their heroin with diphenhydramine or fentanyl.
Not sure how safe injecting ground up benadryl is & shooting up fent obviously has it's dangers.

If it's your first go around with heroin, I would stick to intranasal. It'll be a much smoother and longer lasting ride, IMO and was even my preferred route while deep into it.


Was there any itching with your experience? Some one's first go with genuine diacetylmorphine should have them scratching themselves like crazy.
My nose use to become beat red from rubbing it so much and I would leave claw marks all over my body.
If you didn't have any itching, then that means it didn't have any histamine release.. Which would make me curious if you what you took was actual heroin.
Although the nausea sounds about correct, there are other synthetic opioids out there that do not or cause less histamine release. So if you did not itch, I'd be a little suspect that what you got was pure heroin. Just my observation. There is a lot of fentanyl out there & IME, fentanyl and diacetylmorphine are two different experiences. With the latter being much more enjoyable, euphoric, almost emphathogenic, with lots of histamine release.
 
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I used H for the first time 2.5 hours ago. I injected into my arm after a drawn out process trying to puncture a vein. A few weeks ago I did a dry run to see if I was capable of doing it and managed to find one relatively quickly. I don't know what happened this time but it took multiple sites, multiple minutes each to successfully place the end of the needle into my bloodstream and see a warm spurt of blood shoot into the syringe. I pushed the plunger partway down at first out of caution. Once I felt a slight tingle and warmth that ceased growing I pushed in the rest. The rush was almost immediate, unlike any drug that's entered my body before it. My dose was small, an unknown quantity because my scale accurate to a milligram didn't detect anything on it. A shimmied some powder onto it waiting for a reading, aiming for just a few mg's but apparently my scale isn't accurate enough to pick up on quantities that small. I stopped when it seemed like a good beginner dose to my eye. If I had to guess I'd say it was in the neighborhood of ~5, though I am not familiar enough with this substance to give an accurate estimate. I then only emptied half of that into my preparation container and proceeded to dissolve, filter, and inject it. It was intense but not nearly as powerful as I imagine the subjective upper limit is. For the first 30 seconds after the full dose I felt cozy and euphoric. The latter feeling subsided shortly after, fading into an uplifting state of mind that has yet to fully leave. It didn't take long for the forewarned nausea to kick in. Gradually it built up and up until two open windows letting in the blizzard outside with a fan on full blast caressing my face couldn't hold in the days lunch any longer. I emptied the contents of my stomach into my waiting trashcan. As I was typing this just a few sentences ago I vomited again. I felt confident enough to have a small snack of fruit water and tea before typing this, but I guess I was wrong. After clearing my esophagus with sips of water I lay down in bed and had a very pleasant waking nap. The feeling in my body was still present as I took in just how good it felt to lie down and dissolve into the mattress. During this time I noticed slight auditory distortions that seemed to occur simultaneously with small involuntary moments. Looking back on this experience I can understand why someone would become addicted to this though I don't think this is a substantial concern for myself. It was pleasant, but not entirely. And the high was great, but felt dirty. I'm debating whether or not I intend on using H again. I feel a slight desire to but it's not very compelling. I think I'm leaning a bit more towards yes, but right now even as I have another syringe loaded and ready to go that I prepared as well, I don't feel like using it.
5 mg is a good beginner's dose, specially if your stuff's fairly pure. ( an online vendor with a good rep for his product is a daydream of mine, you jammy b*stard 😉)

... This can be a great drug for some people, I mean I'm still a fan despite nearly messing up my life with it at one point ; but you really wanna steer clear of physical dependence because that'll have you going at it all the livelong day plus withdrawals are a buggeration.

I'm not gonna sit here and tell you you will 'inevitably' get addicted if you keep using, because that simply isn't the case. I personally know people who've used on an occasional basis for years and never had a problem. HOWEVER, if you do decide to use again, proceed with self - awareness. If you at any point start to feel like you're leaning on the effects (mentally speaking), or you're tempted to use more often than you originally intended, it's time for a break. I recommend no more than once weekly maximum, and better only once every 2 weeks, if you wanna keep it recreational. That way you also won't become habituated requiring significantly larger doses every time, and the experience will be more enjoyable.

If you decide to not have another try on the other hand, of course you'll be saving yourself many health risks, not to mention finances, which is obviously the more sensible option.
 
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Several countries have genuine Diamorphine treatment ….UK, Switzerland 🇨🇭, Canada 🇨🇦, Europe, etc

100% Diacetylmorphine HCL is the most euphoric opioid next to my favourite, Oxycodone…

I’ve had some pretty good H in the past…too bad no way of knowing the purity or chemical makeup, but the euphoric rush from banging a nice hit was nearly overwhelming.

I remember my first time ever trying to i.v. administer ….it was an OC 40 in a 1cc 30 gauge, filtered, drawn up….took me a few times delicately entering my arm on a 30 degree angle before Pooffff, a red cloud of warm blood entered the rig, and I new I was in business lol.

I got so good I didn’t even need to tie off….one try every time, then experienced scar tissue from repeat injection sites ….gross….the needle would break through this scabby type tissue under my skin…ewww. Would alternate injection sites. Got so bad my friends would question why I was wearing long sleeve shirt in the summer time….F@ck this is bad I thought to myself. Banging H 3-4 times daily and blowing $200/gram was the tipping point

A street gram was usually a .8 of good stuff ….never disappointed with my guy….Amazing gear, off white, beige, super light brown, smelt like opening a bag of salt & vinegar chips lol, acetic anhydride with its pungent pickle-like odour.

I’d kill for those Swiss manufactured Diaphin brand 10 gram glass jars of pure Diacetylmorphine hcl to be mixed with liquid before IV/IM/SC injections …..an entire pallet with sealed boxes straight from the factory floor 60 jars of 10,000 mg each Ha ha ha …..and a key of pure Bolivian flake for a lifetime of speedballs lol. Pure porn for my sick mind :p
 
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Gotta get a scale that goes to the thousandths place. Still though, sounds like you were cautious and that's good. Maybe a better pre test is to snort that teeny amount to gauge the strength before mainlining it. I hope you have some narcan and a buddy to babysit. If not, I understand. Be super careful, people are keeling over left and right out there.
 
Not street grade. Ordered online, quality. So it's probably super duper healthy. I'll probably get a get out of cancer free card.
Anything I have ordered online does not match the quality of the H I get from my street dealer, let alone the one that he calls pure and is a lot more expensive, and I have ordered from pretty much every vendor, well known and not so well known, who delivers in NL

So I would not bet that this is necessarily much higher quality just because it was ordered online
 
Was it rather fentanyl that you the OP injected and experienced? And were you using alone without Narcan around? Very risky to do that. Be very careful.
 
Yes please test your stuff. Idk where you’re located but get some fentanyl test strips and check it. I spent years of daily heroin use here in the US. Had raw, then powdered, always insufflated. It sunk its hooks into me and the withdrawal was something I will never go back to. Haven’t touched an opioid since 2013. They don’t have value imo outside of real physical pain. Also make sure you have naloxone on hand and aren’t using alone.
 
Strange that OP has not said anymore or responded to any questions.

Definitely wondering if what they got was truly diacetylmorphine and not fent or some shitty analogue.

I disagree with the above poster that they have no value outside physical pain, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 
Dude, save yourself some pain and 1) don't continue doing heroin at all, and especially not until you get a physical addiction and 2) if you do decide to do heroin again, for the love of God, just snort it.

IV heroin is a death wish, both in the short term and long term.
 
I disagree with the above poster that they have no value outside physical pain, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
fair point. I am definitely biased against opioids from my own personal path through heroin. I’m also a harm reduction substance use counselor so I do understand there is plenty of value in opioids. My bias lies in that I believe there are other ways to access the relief sought or experiences gained through other means that have a better cost/benefit for the individual in the long term.
 
fair point. I am definitely biased against opioids from my own personal path through heroin. I’m also a harm reduction substance use counselor so I do understand there is plenty of value in opioids. My bias lies in that I believe there are other ways to access the relief sought or experiences gained through other means that have a better cost/benefit for the individual in the long term.
I have 20+ years experience using prescribed and illicit drugs. Nothing helped my depression until I tried heroin (and other various equal in strength opioids).

Hell, I was put on vraylar recently back in October. I'm still having eyelid twitching from that experience months later.

Maybe SSRIs/Antipsychotics work for some people but they've only made me worse.
And the frustration I feel knowing there's something out there that helps, but is "illegal" is enormous.

Not to mention most antidepressants also cause physical dependence, movement disorders & can make people more suicidal & I can't see how this is a "better" alternative.

Heroin certainly has it's risks however, but most of these risks are due to the fact that it's illegal.
 
I have 20+ years experience using prescribed and illicit drugs. Nothing helped my depression until I tried heroin (and other various equal in strength opioids).

Hell, I was put on vraylar recently back in October. I'm still having eyelid twitching from that experience months later.

Maybe SSRIs/Antipsychotics work for some people but they've only made me worse.
And the frustration I feel knowing there's something out there that helps, but is "illegal" is enormous.

Not to mention most antidepressants also cause physical dependence, movement disorders & can make people more suicidal & I can't see how this is a "better" alternative.

Heroin certainly has it's risks however, but most of these risks are due to the fact that it's illegal.
Agreed. Legalization and medicalization nearly eliminates almost all risks from heroin. Also very transparent on the body, doesn’t cause long term damage on major organs when used in pure form and therapeutically. Unfortunately, ignorance and prohibition have made “heroin” (mostly fentanyl and other cuts here in the US) unnecessarily dangerous.
Every substance has a value. SSRIs and antipsychotics obviously very effective and necessary for some folks as well as benzos and opiates. Opiates would need a major societal shift to ever be prescribed again for mood disorders like they had been upon early western medicine use.
 
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