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^^^ HAHAHAHAHA! That's funny, in a weird twisted way.


mushman1 said:
I am jewish. I definately control the world. You are all pawns in my crazy jewish game. On weekends my family drink the blood of a Christian Virgin while plotting the next scam...


LOL! That's a good one. I'll have to use that one next time that guy at work asks me about being part Jewish. If you don't mind that is.
 
hyperborea13 said:
So you think that there was no systematic killing of Jews during the Third Reich?

Not in gas chambers.

Have your read Mein Kampf?

Yes.

Are you aware that although Jews were the target of most of Hitler's hatred, he also wanted to eliminate Noma (Gypsies), the handicapped, black people, and others?

He wanted to "eliminate" (extirpate) Jews, Gypsies, handicaped, from German living space because he considered them a drain on society. In mein kamph Hitler describes the kind of Jews as kaffkan-wearers: the type who do not work, shave or take baths . . . like the hippies.

You don't believe in money, then you believe in full socialism?

Socialism is an intermediate stage between capitalism and communism: a communist society will not have money.

Are you aware that the original Zionists as well as the kibbutzim today do not use money at all, or they don't count because they are Jewish?

Yes, orthodox jews do not touch money on the sabbath and it is said, "if everyday becomes a sabbath, messiah will come."
 
nicnicnic said:
Irving has, for his own ideological reasons, persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence. For the same reasons, he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favorable light, principally in his relation towards and responsibility for the treatment of the Jews. He is an active Holocaust denier. He is anti-Semitic and racist and he associates with right wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism.

So: What exactly from the Anti-defamation League biography of Irving do you consider to be slanderous?

The ADL biography is ad homminim. It does not deal with the issues: the forensics and logistics of gas chambers and crematoria. Irving screwed up his court case by not having expert witness Germar Rudolf testify about the gas chambers.

In a court of law, the judge and opposing attorney will often draw conclusions that are not supported by facts or are out of context. Irving wrote many books. From what I've read, at Irving's trial they found a few insignificant mistakes in his books. If you look at any historian's books you are bound to find mistakes and "spin."

A.J.P. Taylor portrayed Hitler in a fovorable light, blaming the war on the unreasonableness of England and Poland in not allowing Hitler to obtain a corridor to east Prussia.
 
David said:
LOL! That's a good one. I'll have to use that one next time that guy at work asks me about being part Jewish. If you don't mind that is.

What "part" of you is "Jewish"?

Is the other part Catholic?

Are you saying that Jewish mothers are stereotypical. Do they brainwash their kids with visions of superiority?

The problem with Jews in Nazi Germany was they did not consider themselves German even after four or five generations. My great-great grandfathers came to the United States and considered themselves Americans. Hitler said the Talmudic Jews consider non-Jews, unhuman, animals, goium. Hitler disliked the Jews and Gypsies because they did not assimilate, they did not even try to learn the German language after four generations.
 
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Are you aware that the original Zionists as well as the kibbutzim today do not use money at all

Zionism used to be cool before it was hijacked by the right... Noam Chomsky lists the early kibbutzim as an example of libertarianism/anarchism in action (and I mean small "l" libertarian, not the so-called Libertarian party from the US)
 
I find it sadly humorous that mein kampf talks about manipulating minds by telling big lies with easy to understand points, then repeating them often.

all of you idiot neo-nazis are falling for hitler's best propoganda tricks.
face it, hitler sucked at art, slept with his cousin, was completely delusional, and murdered a lot of people in cold blood.

wow! you assholes sure have a cool role model!!!
 
I don't agree with ms. 666's viewpoint, but I do have to mention that old saying, "The winners of wars write the history, not the losers".
 
666isMONEY.com said:
Not in gas chambers.



Yes.




Wow, I have heard about these holoaust deniers, but never came across one. This is so sad to me. I was just watchign a doc about this last night. They showed the first chambers, in Chalma, had witnesses discussing how it was done. A few survivors, strong men, (they were useful) who were used to constantly take each truck, after it was hauled the short distance to the large holes dug prior by these same men, and the bodies thrown in for burial. Showed the chambers. The first one used had been demolished. but then they made two others, bricked in the windows, had two openings. one for the people to enter and leave, and a small opening at top for the gas to be put in. I cried listening to the person talking about how the children would cry as they were undressed, until the parents calmed them down, and undressed too. How the kids were actually laughing and playing as they walked in, some carrying toys. A witness talked about how you could hear the crying and screaming for about 20 minutes. They had motorcycles out side the two rooms, to rev at full blast until the screaming died down. At this point, they realized they needed a more systematic way to murder everyone. It just wasn't going fast enough. I turned it off at that point, couldn't watch anymore.

God bless, 666, hope you really know what you are defending.
 
I am in possession of proof that over the last the century, the masons, nazis, and Opus Dei (with the help of the Moon Unification Church) have combined in various ways to form one all-powerful Illuminati fellowship, which has completely infiltrated the vatican and as of 2000 our government. Prescot bush and Rockefeller were the main guys to bring the modern brotherhood together here in the US, through deals over Standard Oil and Drilling and CIA shenanigans.

The leadership council takes the form of the Council of National Policy, which in its present form is as follows:

All names http://watch.pair.com/cnp.html
Full list http://www.cephasministry.com/conp.html
“A different front group from the Council for National Policy. Lots of familiar cockroaches and a lot more.
Executive Committee Officers


Edwin Meese III

President


Foster Friess

Vice President


Reed Larson

Secretary-Treasurer

Executive Committee

Gary Bauer

Beverly Danielson

Ed Feulner

Foster Friess

Preston Hawkins

Donald Paul Hodel

Louis "Woody" Jenkins

Marion "Mac" Magruder

Sam Moore

Oliver L. North

Howard Phillips

Lowell Smith

LaNeil Spivy



Senior Executive Committee and Past Presidents



Rich DeVos 1990-1993 and 1986-1988

Paul Pressler 1988-1990

M.G. "Pat" Robertson 1985-1986

Sam Moore 1984-1985

Nelson Bunker Hunt 1983-1984

Tom Ellis 1982-1983

Tim LaHaye 1981-1982

John Ankerberg wrote a book against Masons but he is connected to 33rd Degree Freemason, Rich DeVos of Amway. Ankerberg is a member of the Council of National Policy.

This group is parallel to the NWO politicians: the Council of Foreign (CFR) Relations.(http://www.icona.com/grant.htm)

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LIST OF MEMBERS IN COUNCIL OF NATIONAL POLICY

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Rich DeVos was past president as well as tim and Pat!
How can Ankerberg justify being in a group headed by 33rd Degree Freemason Rich DeVos!!!!!!
[Latest list of membership January 8, 2000

Ahmanson, Howard
Alby, Barbara
Aldrich, Gary
Ally, Arthur
Allison, Daniel
Anderson, Thomas
Andrews, John
Angell, Al
Ankerberg, John
Ardizzone, Kristen
Armey, Richard
Armstrong, Thomas
Atsinger, Edward
Baehr, Theodore
Bahakel, Cy
Baker, Dick
Balderson, Terry
Ball, William
Batchelder, William
Bauer, Gary
Beckett, John
Behnke, Melvin
Belk, John
Bell, Mariam
Berryman, Ray
Bigham, Paul
Bird, Wendell
Blackwell, Morton
Blinn, James
Blocker, Michael
Bolan, Thomas
Bosgra, T.J.
Bott, Rich
Bott, Richard
Bozell, Brent
Breese, David
Bright, William
Brinson, Alan
Broadhead, Paul
Bronson, Earle
Brown, Floyd
Bull, Benjamin
Bullington, Daniel
Burkett, Larry
Burress, Pamela
Burton, Dan
Butler, Sandra
Byne, James
Callaway, Howard
Campbell, Kenneth
Carl, William
Carriker, Charles
Caruth, W.W.
Ceverha, Bill
Chalfant, John
Cies, Margaret
Cline, Nancy
Clymer, James
Condon, Guy
Cone, Robert
Cook, Peter
Cooper, Henry
Coors, Darden
Coors, Holland
Coors, Jeffrey
Copeland, David
Creedon, William
Cresanta, Judy
Cribb, Kenneth
Cross, Raymond
Crotty, Daniel
Csorba, Les
Czirr, James
Dacus, Brad
Danielson, Beverly
Dannemeyer, William
Davis, Cullen
Davis, Jean
Dawkins, Maurice
Deaton, Dorsey
DeLay, Tom
Denman, Diana
Denton, James
DeVos, Rich
DeVos, Richard
Dickey, Catharine
Dingman, Dick
Dobson, James
Dodd, John
Doggett, John
Donnelly, Elaine
Doolittle, John
Dornan, Robert
Drexel, Ann
Drexel, Gregory
DuPont, Pierre
Dugan, Robert
Duggan, Daniel
Dunham, Richard
Dupuy, Kathy
Durant, Clark
Dye, Alan
Eaton, Lee
Eller, Karl
Ellis, Tom
Ensminger, Ronald
Epperson, Kristy
Epperson, Stuart
Epperson, Stuart Jr.
Etchison, Michael
Faircloth, Lauch
Faison, Mollie
Falwell, Jerry
Farah, Joseph
Farris, Michael
Feldtman, Robert
Feulner, Edwin
Fields, William
Fischer, Robert
Flaherty, Peter
Flowers, Langdon
Folkers, Donald
Ford, Richard
Forsythe, Clark
Foy, Peter
Frankland, Herman
Frazier, Ann
Freeman, Kevin
Freeny, Tracy
Friess, Foster
Frizzell, Ben
Fuller, Corinne
Gardner, Frank
Garvey, Willard
Gentry, Kevin
Glessner, Thomas
Godwin, Ronald
Goodrick, Stephen
Gottlieb, Alan
Grampsas, Anthony
Grant, Robert
Grant, William
Guffey, Hal
Gustafson, Darryl
Haden, Ben
Hakola, Edith
Hale, Billy
Haley, Rosalind
Halvorssen, Thor
Hanicke, Elizabeth
Hanna, Colin
Hansen, Nancy
Hardage, Sam
Hardman, Sara
Hart, Benjamin
Hasson, Seamus
Hawkins, Preston
Hayes, Karen
Hayne, Peck
Haynes, Ray
Headrick, Richard
Hearne, Donna
Heath, Charles
Helms, Jesse
Helton, Harry
Hendrix, Richard
Herbster, Carl
Herbster, Matthew
Hess, Thomas
Hill, James
Hinz, Roland
Hodel, Donald
Hodgman, Thomas
Hofmeister, Gary
Hogan, Neal
Hueter, Ernest
Hughes, Dudley
Hunt, Mary
Hunt, Nelson
Hurme, William
Irby, Charles
Irvine, Reed
Istook, Ernest
Jackson, Peb
Jacobson, James
Jaeb, Lorena
Jaffe, Laurie
James, Kay
Jarmin, Gary
Jarvis, Charles
Jenkins, James
Jenkins, Margaret
Jenkins, Woody
Jones, Bob
Jordan, Daniel
Kaloogian, Howard
Keating-Edh, Barbara
Keene, David
Kemp, Jack
Kennedy, D. James
Keyes, Alan
Kimble, Richard
Kingsley, Dora
Kincaid, Cliff
Kirk, Jerry
Klayman, Larry
Kyl, Jon
LaHaye, Beverly
LaHaye, Lee
LaHaye, Tim
Lane, David
Larson, Reed
Ledzinski, Jerome
LeFever, Tim
Lenczowski, John
Lester, Andrew
Levin, Mark
Lewis, Keet
Lifschultz, Jay
Linton, David
Long, Christopher
Lott, Trent
Lozick, Edward
Mabon, Lon
Maclellan, Scott
MacLeod, Laurel Ann
Maddoux, Mark
Maddoux, Marlin
Magruder, Marion
Magruder, Shannon
Malenick, Carolyn
Marshall, Peter
Marshner, Connie
Martin, James
Mason, Christopher
Mason, Richard
Matrisciana, Pat
McAlvany, Donald
McAteer, Ed
McCabe, Thomas
McCarthy, Richard
McClellan, Bob
McClelland, Norman
McConville, Timothy
McCotter, James
McCotter, Liz
McCotter, Shannon
McCoy, Tidal
McDonald, Mrs. Larry
McEwen, Bob
McGuigan, Patrick
McKim, Ken
McLittle, Emanuel
Meese, Dana
Meese, Edwin
Messing, Andy
Metrahi, Peter
Meyer, Eugene
Miller, James
Miller, Stephen
Mills, Andrew
Minnery, Tom
Missler, Charles
Mix, Mark
Moffitt, Terry
Monteith, Barbara
Monteith, Stanley
Montgomery, Michael
Montini, Mark
Mooney, Pat
Moore, Raymond
Moore, Sam
Moorman, Thomas
Morris, Henry
Morris, Allen
Motley, Duane
Mounger, William
Mount, Jay
Mullin, Martha
Muskett, Rob
Nash, Richard
Neill, Richard
Nickles, Don
Noble, Edward
Noebel, David
Nolan, Pat
Norquist, Grover
North, Gary
North, Oliver
O'Neal, B.F.
O'Neill, George
Oakes, Stanley
Oates, Marvin
Oates, Philip
Olsen, Phillip
Olson, William
Oster, Merrill
Owens, Eric
Parker, Jay
Parker, Thomas
Parro, Colleen
Pate, Carmen
Patterson, Paige
Patterson, Tom
Pederson, Patrice
Perkins, Tony
Phillips, Brad
Phillips, Howard
Phillips, Thomas
Poland, Larry
Pope, John
Powers, Jim
Pratt, Lawrence
Pressler, Paul
Pressler, Paul IV
Price, James
Prince, Elsa
Privette, Coy
Pullen, Penny
Reed, Ralph
Reynolds, Bradford
Richardson, H.L.
Richey, Daniel
Riddle, Richard
Ridenour, Elizabeth
Ridley, Stephen
Rigell, Isom
Riner, Tom
Robertson, Pat
Robinson, Ronald
Rohrbough, Gregory
Rosenberger, Ron
Rushdoony, R.J.
Sanford, Mark
Saracino, William
Scanlon, Terrence
Scarborough, Rick
Schatz, Rick
Scheideman, Blaine
Schlafly, Phyllis
Schuele, Mrs. Carl
Schultheis, David
Scott, Otto
Scribante, John
Scribante, Lynda
Sears, Alan
Seeley, Ronald
Segermark, Howard
Sekulow, Jay
Sennholz, Hans
SerVaas, Beurt
Shadegg, John
Shakespeare, Frank
Sharpe, Shelby
Shealy, Dal
Shipe, Rich
Shoff, Richard
Showers, Robert
Siemens, Abe
Siemens, Terry
Simons, Richard
Singlaub, John
Sirico, Robert
Skousen, Mark
Smith, Alice
Smith, Baker
Smith, Eunie
Smith, Jim
Smith, Lowell
Smith, Malcolm
Smith, Michael
Snyder, Geraldine
Snyder, Jay
Spence, Mike
Spivy, LaNeil
Squires, Ted
St. Martin, Darla
Stallings, Kyle
Stavarz, Nick
Staver, Mathew
Stevens, Allen
Stewart, Donald
Stockman, Steve
Stormer, John
Stover, Robert
Strack, Jay
Strake, George
Strassner, David
Strickler, JoAnn
Sullivan, Kathleen
Sumner, Gordon
Swim, Gaylord
Tambs, Lewis
Taylor, Helen
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Stacy
Teepell, Timothy
Thompson, Kristine
Thompson, Tommy
Thornton, James
Tierney, Bill
Titus, Herbert
Trueman, Patrick
Twardowski, Timothy
Uhlmann, John
Uribe, George
Utley, Jon
Valentine, Harry
Van Arsdale, Corbin
Vazsonyi, Balint
Viguerie, Richard
Vollmer, Christine
Vucanovich, Barbara
Wakefield, Gray
Warner, Lucien
Weaver, Phyllis
Webb, Jack
Weiner, Bob
Welch, Craig
Westberg-Warren, Judi
Weyrich, Diana
Weyrich, Paul
Wheat, Marie
Wheeler, Jack
White, Somers
Whiteford, Ronald
Whitehead, John
Whittlesey, Faith
Wildmon, Donald
Wildmon, Timothy
Williams, Alvin
Williams, Arthur
Willke, John
Wilson, Chris
Wirthlin, Richard
Witwer, George
Wood, Robert
Woodall, Jim
Woodfill, Jared
Young, Carl
Young, Charles
Zanotti, David
Zentara, Maria

To verify list of members:

http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/cnp/index.html

http://www-2.realaudio.com/webactive/features/censored.html

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You can email for bios on each and every one of them.
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Oh and guess who the current President of the Council is? None other than Timothy J. Roemer, a heavy-hitting canidate for the DNC chair. They already have several democrats (and I'm almost sure Kerry is actually one of them) but they desperately need to control the entire party from the top down to stifle people like Barb Boxer and Congressman Conyers.

Roemer's bio:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_roemer.htm


Whoever is interested, I can provide documents, ebooks, SEC filings, cached webpages, etc that shows the overall big picture of this fascist sect's connections and its effots to create a new World Order. I have the ties between almost all of our voting/database companies and this brotherhood, as well as many direct links between many prominent Bush administration officials (as well as a couple of our favorite Supreme Court Justices), etc. It goes all over the place, they are running damn near everything. Luckily the world's reaction to Iraq set them back (they weren't expecting it) so within this next term they are most likely going to create a "disaster" or orchestrate a new attack against us to warrant a more agressive foreign policy.

my email is [email protected]

BTW a good research tool to find little connections here and there, or simply want to find books or resources for information, check out www.namebase.org
 
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Atrocity Propaganda

DarthMom said:
Wow, I have heard about these holoaust deniers, but never came across one. This is so sad to me. I was just watchign a doc about this last night. They showed the first chambers, in Chalma, had witnesses discussing how it was done. A few survivors, strong men, (they were useful) who were used to constantly take each truck, after it was hauled the short distance to the large holes dug prior by these same men, and the bodies thrown in for burial. Showed the chambers. The first one used had been demolished. but then they made two others, bricked in the windows, had two openings. one for the people to enter and leave, and a small opening at top for the gas to be put in. I cried listening to the person talking about how the children would cry as they were undressed, until the parents calmed them down, and undressed too. How the kids were actually laughing and playing as they walked in, some carrying toys. A witness talked about how you could hear the crying and screaming for about 20 minutes. They had motorcycles out side the two rooms, to rev at full blast until the screaming died down. At this point, they realized they needed a more systematic way to murder everyone. It just wasn't going fast enough. I turned it off at that point, couldn't watch anymore.

God bless, 666, hope you really know what you are defending.

I saw Moses part the Red Sea on TV, doesn't mean that millions were exteminated with louse disinfestant and diesel exhaust. The Jews are great mythologists.

I saw Fahrenheit 9-11 and cried when an Iraqi woman asked God to avenge the bombing and killing of her uncle in his house etc. I also saw the same show on PBS and almost fell asleep.

For instance: if the Nazis dropped ZyklonB onto the floor and opened the door after 20 minutes (as alleged) then the Zyklon would still be dissipating cyanide. Even while wearing a gas mask, you DO NOT touch this stuff, it can be absorbed through the skin and is combustable. One alleged "witness" claimed at Nuremburg (in the IMT Blue Books) that they just swept the Zyklon out the window! If the Nazis wanted to gas millions, they would have used a much more practicle and less dangerous method, like running the coal-fired locomotive into a quanset hut or tunnel.

I'm defending the truth. The devil is a slanderer (see the etymology of "devil"). I believe a Christ/Messiah would rebuke the "chosen people" for their slander.

http://www.666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
 
Oh boy!

Is this for real?8)

Are there really people dumb enough to argue over this stupid shit?

WOW!!

Just, WOW!



And to whoever it was, much earlier in this thread -

All the Masons require of you to join, is the belief in a higher being, and a check for the fee to go along with your application form - though, it was different in the old days, but they need people to join, as new membership interest has waned somewhat as of 5 or so years ago.
 
What's Important?

LAO TZU said:
Oh boy!

Is this for real?8)

Are there really people dumb enough to argue over this stupid shit?

WOW!!

Just, WOW!


Whenever someone mentions the Illuminati I roll my eyes and walk away but this is for real:
http://www.666ismoney.com/MasonsJews.html

and Masonry in the United $tates is not as influential as the NeoCons are:
http://www.washington-report.org/index.htm

However, I don't know how many neocons waste their time in Masonic Temples or even go to Synagogue
 
It is sad that people still deny the obvious, even after 60 years of historical acceptance.

There is no NWO, Illuminati, or Mason conspiracy. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
 
CIA Killed JFK

m885 said:
It is sad that people still deny the obvious, even after 60 years of historical acceptance.

Historical brainwashing, mythology and propaganda. ("The winner writes the History/Mythology.")

There is no Mason conspiracy.

14 past US Presidents were Masons. Is that NOT a conspiracy? You think the Masons just sit around, play games and fantasize?

CIA Killed JFK:
http://www.666ismoney.com/JFKWEB.html
 
My math was off by 2, only 27 presidents weren't masons.

Or, just maybe, I am one of "them"! I'm not a mason, but you are right: the conspiracy is real, and all of us in the NWO will soon control the world!

8)
 
Originally posted by Pomplemous
(the rank of mason you are is not only, but partly shown through your handshake - which knuckle you press on theother person when shaking, to show your place. he didnt tell me that but got pissed off that I knew. )

i've been trying to get that god damn secret handshake out of my dad for years. thanks :).
 
m885 said:
It is sad that people still deny the obvious, even after 60 years of historical acceptance.

There is no NWO, Illuminati, or Mason conspiracy. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I dont' think this is a healthy attitude. I mean, it is easy to label anything that is far fetched a conspiracy theory. People who think the US was responsible for 9-11 are labeled conspiracy theorists, and someone like you would dismiss them, many times as kooks, or whatever. But it isn't so far fetched when you hear about something like operation northwoods.

Many of these conspiracy theories really do have strange evidence, and while I do not necessarily believe them, most I wouldn't totally dismiss.
 
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