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US Events Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

Electrum1

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No I'm not. I'm saying guns aren't the problem or there would have been tons of mass shootings when we could legally buy machine guns. I think the problem is some sort of social contagion/s
 

Las Veghost grower

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No I'm not. I'm saying guns aren't the problem or there would have been tons of mass shootings when we could legally buy machine guns. I think the problem is some sort of social contagion/s
I still think the absolute root of the problem in its very essence is people arnt suppose to live the way we do in this current age, maybe we’re in a transitioning/getting use to stage, but we should be out hunting gathering building shelter ect. Now we just get up go to work watch tv buy prepared food rinse and repeat…I wonder if you go to a tribe that’s been living off the land the same way for thousands of years and ask if anybody is depressed they would prolly look at you like you have 3 heads, depressed ? We have shit to do….I’m sure they have their handful of legitimately mentally I’ll people but nothing like the epidemic we see in modern civilizations
 

alasdairm

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No I'm not.

well, logically you were.

your question, in the form of an argument was: there are no shootings at gun stores therefore guns are not the problem

i demonstrated, with 2 examples, that there are shootings at gun stores therefore...

:)

to answer your other question directly. i don't think guns are the problem. i think they are part of the problem.

alasdair
 

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I still think the absolute root of the problem in its very essence is people arnt suppose to live the way we do in this current age, maybe we’re in a transitioning/getting use to stage, but we should be out hunting gathering building shelter ect. Now we just get up go to work watch tv buy prepared food rinse and repeat…I wonder if you go to a tribe that’s been living off the land the same way for thousands of years and ask if anybody is depressed they would prolly look at you like you have 3 heads, depressed ? We have shit to do….I’m sure they have their handful of legitimately mentally I’ll people but nothing like the epidemic we see in modern civilizations

100% agreed, I've been saying this for years and years. Basically, the way we live in our society is making people insane. We're so disconnected from spirituality, which is something humans have always striven for and had in our lives until recently. And I don't mean organized religion, I mean a belief system where we feel like we are a part of something bigger. People want to live in a world of magic and wonder, and the modern materialistic viewpoint where we like to think we have solved all the mysteries is toxic to our souls. Additionally, we evolved to live in small communities where we know our neighbors, where we are in tight-knit communities built on trust and kinship. Most people live isolated lives compared to how we always have before, despite the huge numbers of people. So many people have very few close relationships as adults... we don't even know our neighbors' names so much of the time. And a lot of people don't even live near their families, or aren't even close to their families as adults. When you add all that to the fact that our system is set up so that all of our goals are intangible and unattainable (make more money - but it's never enough, for example), we have basically created a whole society of people in varying levels of insanity and existential crisis. And now when you add the intense amount of societal division and total lack of trust in the system and our fellow man... it's no wonder we have a bunch of people who feel their only answer is to die, and go out killing as many others as they can with them. It's only going to get worse.

Guns are not the problem. Guns make it easier for these people to quickly kill a larger number of people, to be sure. But they are not the root of the problem by any means.
 

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100% agreed, I've been saying this for years and years. Basically, the way we live in our society is making people insane. We're so disconnected from spirituality, which is something humans have always striven for and had in our lives until recently. And I don't mean organized religion, I mean a belief system where we feel like we are a part of something bigger. People want to live in a world of magic and wonder, and the modern materialistic viewpoint where we like to think we have solved all the mysteries is toxic to our souls. Additionally, we evolved to live in small communities where we know our neighbors, where we are in tight-knit communities built on trust and kinship. Most people live isolated lives compared to how we always have before, despite the huge numbers of people. So many people have very few close relationships as adults... we don't even know our neighbors' names so much of the time. And a lot of people don't even live near their families, or aren't even close to their families as adults. When you add all that to the fact that our system is set up so that all of our goals are intangible and unattainable (make more money - but it's never enough, for example), we have basically created a whole society of people in varying levels of insanity and existential crisis. And now when you add the intense amount of societal division and total lack of trust in the system and our fellow man... it's no wonder we have a bunch of people who feel their only answer is to die, and go out killing as many others as they can with them. It's only going to get worse.

Guns are not the problem. Guns make it easier for these people to quickly kill a larger number of people, to be sure. But they are not the root of the problem by any means.
That’s what I ment to say.. haha, well put
 

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Dropperneck

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13-50 is like peak wrong think. Yes economic and societal issues are at play, but it’s a real thing. Sadly the establishment realizes this hurts their Narrative and are pushing for data to be decentralized and self reported. I’d imagine the places with subverted DAs will opt to not report.
 

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What percentage of that 63% is police on black violence vs what percentage is black on black ? I understand there is a deeper economic problem there , but I think putting it like that is misleading at best
In Chicago it would truly be hard for the police to kill as many black people as the every day gang to gang black deaths and the innocent non gang black people caught in the cross fire.
I cannot comment on other areas in the US and would be interested in how this plays out locally in other cities... It's truly like a war zone.
 

Cream Gravy?

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The House passed a draconian gun-ban bill with only a four vote majority yesterday. It will completely fail in the senate and even garnered several “no” votes from House democrats.

This is virtue signaling, pure and simple. We need to get these dirt bag Democrat radicals out of office. I swear to God I’ve fucking had it with them. I’m voting Republican for the foreseeable future and I will actually buy into “election fraud” theory if somehow they lose out in the midterms this year.

Every red blooded freedom loving American should be sick to their stomach when they look at Nanci Pelosi. Fuck that cunt.
 

Las Veghost grower

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The House passed a draconian gun-ban bill with only a four vote majority yesterday. It will completely fail in the senate and even garnered several “no” votes from House democrats.

This is virtue signaling, pure and simple. We need to get these dirt bag Democrat radicals out of office. I swear to God I’ve fucking had it with them. I’m voting Republican for the foreseeable future and I will actually buy into “election fraud” theory if somehow they lose out in the midterms this year.

Every red blooded freedom loving American should be sick to their stomach when they look at Nanci Pelosi. Fuck that cunt.
Look at her net worth , then salary…corruption is everywhere…they were making so much money buying stocks before they passed laws that they made it illegal but they left the loophole for themselves that their family members can still buy stocks, I think Pelosi husband recently made a shitload of money doing that
 

Cream Gravy?

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If I were the clerk I would have aimed for his junk, I’m loco like that
I mean, I'd always aim center mass and then if they survived a chest shot I'd finish them because dead men can't complain to lawyers about how you 'hurt' them. I'm not confident I could hit a target outside center mass in a panic situation personally.
 
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