RCs mdphp

[mindseye888]

mdphp

i recently tried this stimulant RC and found little information about it on the internet so thought i would post a little bit about my experience with this substanse.

appearence is a tan to light brown powder with very little smell appart from a slight sour scent. the powder was very hard little clumps that, when ground with a mortar and pestle, was very free flowing, dry, not waxy or sticky, very easy to line up.

dosage was between 3-5mg for each line, i wouldnt do more than 20-25mg in a night long session.

effects were suprisingly euphoric and stimulating at doses mentioned above. the only thing i can compare it to is a-pvp and its really a much more user friendly stimulant than a-pvp to say the least, if you dont overdo it that is. a-pvp always turned me into a strung out, scattered mess where mdphp, if kept to the aboved mentioned doses was quite a euphoric comfortable stimulant, i also found that it doesn't suppress my appetite like almost every other stimulany does. i could also sleep without to much trouble after around 2 hours after my last hit.

dont know what else to say about mdphp, feel free to ask questions if you want any more info.

 

[w0w0mg]

Thank you for the report. I have not heard of thid compoubd. It must be fairly new. How would you comoare it to a-PHP. Also what ROA have you attempted? Water soluble?
Cheers.

 

[Novak]

This was made illagal not long ago in my country Swe, we had a source that sold this under another name and I loved this compound.
I loved it almost as much as I loved MDPPP and that is a lot. A-PVP,4f-PVP,A-PHP,MDPPP and MDPHP are my favorite MDPV analogues.

Try and smoke some of the that brown/tan powder, it tastes SO GOOD but leaves a lot of residue.

And the effects from smoking it is 10x better than nasal.

I also did A LOT of testing with the brown batch with cleaning it with acetone and got pretty darn good results. Ended up with a pretty light tan powder that smoked a lot cleaner but lost some of its GOOD taste.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I always REALLY wanted to try this one but never got the chance.

Does it have that familiar PV like smell/taste when vaporized? Most say these PV analogues smell like cum when vaporized or exposes to water. Another way to compare the smell is to say it smells similar to chlorine.

When you say this one vaporizes well and is euphoric and great.... Ugh, it gives me the shivers just thinking about it. Lol.

How is the perve effect with this one? MDPV was always off the charts on that respect for me.

 

[mindseye888]

Only tried snorting this stuff and its pretty easy on the nose.

I would say it has a pretty high 'perve power'.

 

[Solipsis]

Does it have that familiar PV like smell/taste when vaporized? Most say these PV analogues smell like cum when vaporized or exposes to water. Another way to compare the smell is to say it smells similar to chlorine.

I predict all of those pyrrolidine analogues do because of similarity to spermine, spermidine - very pungent cum smelling amines that also have a nitrogen connected to butyl connected to nitrogen. Only here it's the same one nitrogen. Actually, plain pyrrolidine on its own also smells like semen.
Interestingly, that non-ring butyldiamine chemical fragment I am talking about also exists on its own and is called putrescine. Do I have to tell you what it smells like? :D

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Strawberries? Just kidding...

It's strange how such a repulsive smell can become more and more favorable the more one associates that smell with getting instantly high.

What's further stranger and oddly coincidental is how perverted someone can get by vaporizing a drug so closely smelling of cum. It's like some bizarre cross association thing. Makes it even harder to separate drugs and sex once one decides to quit.

I can remember going to work after heavy sessions of vaping mdpv. No amount of brushing or mouthwash would completely rid that smell... After a heavy session the lungs, throat and mouth are coated. So I would go to work obviously strung out with cum smelling breath. I still wonder what my co-workers must have been thinking.

 

[Ziiirp]

Qualitative comparison with MDPV and A-PHP anyone ? Would be beneficial to pinpoint the effects of certain substitutions.

 

[mindseye888]

tried another batch of mdphp, its much cleaner off white powder thats a little sticky/waxy, compared to the above mentioned light brown stuff that was free flowing.
was a little less potent, needing a little under 10mg bumps to feel it. this batch was a much cleaner feeling stimulant and slightly more compulsive.
smelled almost sweet and really numbs my tongue too, im kinda thinking its a completely different RC in all honesty, damm them shady asian vendors, they really dont make things easier or safer.

 

[yaesutom]

Interesting you noted the lack of appetite suppressant effect. I've been speaking highly of this chem and 4f-php for a long time now and ran into the same problems with crappy brown batches you did (some of it causes freakouts). There is at least one Chinese vendor that has the good stuff, all their chems are pure white or pure crystals and effects are smooth.

Dextroamphetamine or meth are my #1 stims, but mdphp is about equal to dexamphetamine.. hard to even tell a difference except you get a bonus with the mdphp: You can dose 3 hours before bed to get things done then sleep easy with no comedown. Same with 4F-PHP but its a little more recreational, def more euphoric and fun. That one has a "smooth, fluid vision" effect and might be like comparing adderall (4f) to dexedrine (md). Very good stimulants i'm slightly curious about the hybrid between aPVP and aPHP think they call it aPHiP..

Also, these shouldn't be compared to aPHP much because they are so so different. Maybe 4F can be compared because its the more fun one generally. But these are more useful and you can take them daily, all day for a month and not much tolerance seems to develop. Or so a friend of a friend told me.. haha.

They also work great in a metered nasal spray bottle you can carry with you, and when you are tired, do a couple 5mg puff's (dissolve accordingly in saline or water). Only tried that with the MD but it really doesn't burn or bother the nose if its a clean synth.

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[3dempty]

I think I figured out the vast differences in the reports of this chemical. That is because you are talking about 2 separate chemicals.mphp & mdphp
Mdhp- (pv-5),- Brown, chunky, not easy to smoke.
Mdphp- yellow. fine Powder that does not clump, and can easily be smoked.
which when tested shows up as mdphp, they are close relatives
You can figure out the different effects and which of them it belongs to.
By the way lemon juice baking soda makes both much better to vape.
- let me go quickly lest I take something from you.- thus spoke Zarathrustra.

 

[buttannibal69]

MDPHP (freebase) vs. a-PHP vs. a-PVP (hcl)

hey all, thought i'd provide my experience with this drug since there isn't much here.

i received my sample from a highly respected vendor who recently started stocking it.

appearance is yellow-brown and chunky, but unlike a lot of reports i've seen it came in freebase form so that might explain the unusual appearance.

i vaped amounts from 12-20mg on separate occasions, no redosing, using a glass pipe and butane torch. i had binged on ~60-70mg of a-php a few days before the first trial, so tolerance was a factor - looking forward to trying it again after a break. i've seen redditors say it burns too easy but in freebase form i found it easier than a-pvp hcl and much easier than a-php hcl. vape residue is mustardy yellow-orange and the smell is gross (imo) but tolerable.

at these doses (and with tolerance) it was very pleasant and forgiving, with roughly the same side effects i've come to expect from a-pvp and a-php (the other two pyrovalerones i've tried) but at much less intensity. the duration was about the same as a-php - 30-60 minute peak followed by a couple hours of calm euphoria and then about 4-6 hours of stimmy comedown. there was less of a manic 'rush,' so those looking for those effects will likely be disappointed. however the 'calm euphoria' phase of the experience was imo much more pleasurable than a-php, though with less focus and a slightly muddier, stoned feeling. the comedown was significantly less unpleasant than a-php or a-pvp, though still noticeable. a few grams of kratom or 1 gram of phenibut basically killed it.

i've read some describe its effects as sexual, which i can see, though i'd say it has essentially the same pros/cons as a-php and a-pvp minus the manic quality.

day-after effects are barely noticeable at these doses, whereas in the days following a-php and a-pvp use i typically have recurring cardiovascular tics (heart racing during normal exertion) and feel cranky, unmotivated, and 'drained.' when taking amphetamines or NDRIs (recreationally or for productivity, like MPH or IPH) i take some combination of R-ALA, ALCAR, fish oil, Coq10, panax ginseng, gingko, and hawthorn to mitigate cardiovascular damage.

in an ideal world i would primarily use mdphp for the pyro effect profile, have a bit of a-pvp in reserve for extra special occasions, and flush the a-php (which i find to be a much weaker version of a-pvp with too many sides to be worthwhile on its own terms). sadly i can't source a-pvp anymore.

i'll try to report back after i take a stim hiatus to eliminate tolerance.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

It's strange to me that MDPHP freebase is sold as a powder. Most of these chems (mdpv, apvp, etc) would be an oil at room temp if in freebase. Shouldn't that be the case for MDPHP freebase as well?

 

[buttannibal69]

i've definitely noticed warmer ambient temperatures make it start to get mushy, but it shipped to me ok so maybe it's fine once it cools? not sure.

it is also not very water-soluble.

 

[Steady Scootin]

How would these types of drugs (pyrovalerones) compare to methamphetamine? Obviously we're all different, but just interested in broad strokes here

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I can't speak for MDPHP specifically but I found mdpv and it's brethren to be more compulsive than meth. You'd find yourself continuing to redose even when you don't really want to anymore. It's not uncommon to be unable to stop until you run out. They have more unpleasant side effects, leads to psychosis quicker, etc. They are incredibly powerful, I was able to easily stay up for 6-7 days at a time.

But I found them more enjoyable (not everyone does). I really enjoyed giving in to the urge to redose. Vaping them is especially good. Almost too good... you can take insanely large hits off of foil. Think of a quasi crack like rush (not as intense) but then followed with a much longer duration. These chems are incredibly perv inducing, more so then meth ime. Vaping a huge hit while watching porn is out of this world... Would always get me into a hyper sexual state that could last hours sometimes even days.

Edited to add: These chems smell like sperm (sort of a chlorine like smell) when exposed to moisture and when Vaped. It's strangly coincidental because of the strong horniness that comes with using them.

During a binge your body odor, your breath and your clothes will smell like semen. Especially if vaping large amounts. The smell can linger around in the house for awhile too.

 

[Steady Scootin]

Thank you for the highly detailed answer, sir. I might give one of them a whirl if more available, or there was a sudden shortage of quality ice in my area for whatever reason.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

If you do ever pick some up then I'd recommend getting a small amount. Like a gram or less. I'm not kidding about most people not being able to stop once they start. You might fair better than most but don't count on it.

If you get like 5-10g or whatever then you are really asking for it. You may suddenly 'come-to' after running out and discover you've been holed up in your room feverishly jacking off for like two weeks straight. You'll smell like an old gym sock that's been jizzed on a million times and probably feel about the same. There will be like 800gigs of downloaded porn on your laptop that wasn't there before the binge started too. It's fun in a sick way to go on a 5g binge of something like MDPV but you can do some serious damaged to your life too.

 

[Steady Scootin]

If you do ever pick some up then I'd recommend getting a small amount. Like a gram or less. I'm not kidding about most people not being able to stop once they start. You might fair better than most but don't count on it.

If you get like 5-10g or whatever then you are really asking for it. You'll suddenly 'come-to' after running out and discover you've been holed up in your room feverishly jacking off for like two weeks straight. You'll smell like an old gym sock that's been jizzed on a million times and probably feel about the same. There will be like 800gigs of downloaded porn on your laptop that wasn't there before the binge started too. It's fun in a sick way to go on a 5g binge of something like MDPV but you can do some serious damaged to your life too.

I've actually never ordered RC's or an type of drug online, but if I did, i would certainly do so in small amounts, for many reasons, me liking something too much being one of the biggies.

That said, I don't indulge in large amounts of speed, at least compared to some people I know. Never purchased more than a gram at once, and that lasts me around a week if I don't share any. Now heroin is a different story..

 

[yaesutom]

Bump. Such a great stimulant. Strange lack of reports in English though.... they rave about these in Poland etc