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[MEGA] Making hash/kief/cannabis extracts

PoppyLlama

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as long as you smoke it right, a whole GRAM of wax is equal to at least a half zip of buds. you really only need like 0.01 grams (10 mgs) or wax per hit to get faded.
 

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so what i'm saying is its worth paying the 60 dollars for a gram of wax, since if you were to buy the weed to make it, i would imagine that it might be a tad more expensive than buying the gram of wax, thus, buying wax is much cheaper than making it yourself... you follow?

ok I understand, your right but still nice to know how to make it.
 

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Mendu84 don't forget that there are safer alternatives to BHO. Isopropyl alcohol is not non-polar like organic hydrocarbons like butane, hexane etc. but it still works surprisingly well with the right technique.

Ice hash doesn't involve the use of any dangerous, nasty chemicals but can be strong as fuck. Sieving, whether manually by hand or with a tumbler powered by a rotisserie motor produces superior hash because it doesn't wash away any or the terpenes which not only contribute to the aroma but also the high itself. So the taste and high is better while the potency is still high.
 

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Mendu84 don't forget that there are safer alternatives to BHO. Isopropyl alcohol is not non-polar like organic hydrocarbons like butane, hexane etc. but it still works surprisingly well with the right technique.

Ice hash doesn't involve the use of any dangerous, nasty chemicals but can be strong as fuck. Sieving, whether manually by hand or with a tumbler powered by a rotisserie motor produces superior hash because it doesn't wash away any or the terpenes which not only contribute to the aroma but also the high itself. So the taste and high is better while the potency is still high.

I thank you sir, you have been very informative! looks like I have some rounding up to do, I appreciate al of your guys input and will update with some results soon.
 

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No problem. Now you just need to get growing a strain good for producing hash i.e. one with the right resin DNA sleestCK tenacity were the trichomes fall off easily for collecting as kief. DNA Sleestack or Seedsman Sleestack x Skunk is a good one as are many of the Himalayan landrace charas strains.
 

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Wax can be made two ways. One with CO2, and another with Butane.
The CO2 wax is much cleaner, much easier to hit. Its a bit harder to make, but its definitely worth the yield. OP, often times what youre paying that much for is for CO2 wax, which is definitely worth that amount retail wise. If I know its CO2 honeycomb, I dont argue with the price unless its over what you posted above.

the butane method is easy to do, all you need is an open space and some butane.
Without going into too much detail, youre going to be running the butane through the chopped up cannabis or even trim (though if you use trim dont use water leaves, use the trim from the bud, and youre going to need a lot of it). Run the butane through the bud using the PVC method, and let the liquid butane evaporate in the sun until you get a goo.

The goo (BHO) is now ready for the next stop, which is whipping/purging. A lot of people (myself included) like to put in kief into the mix. Itll act as a bit of a binding agent giving the BHO a waxy texture, which is more maleable. It will definitely make your wax look uglier though, ill tell you that. It ruins the natural yellow color and gives it more of a brown color. You can either use a drill as a whip, or youcan whip it up manually with a metal pick (like a dental pick which you can get at any CVS). Whip it up, let the butane purge, whip it up, let it purge, and eventually itll become a waxy hash.

Purging can take a while, even up to a week depending on the amount of wax you have made. The longer you purge/whip it, the better wax youll have in the end (the less butane the cleaner hit). Butane wax sticks to absolutely everything, which is something you need to make sure you understand before you start whipping/purging. Ive ruined so many t-shirts with wax making. Have a bottle of ISO around to wash your hands with, water doesnt do the trick when it comes to THC goo.

I love using trim from a grow for making wax. If the grow is good enough, the trim will have enough THC in it to give you a strong wax prodcut. You can turn about a pound of trim into close to an ounce of wax if the trim is that good. Plus, what else are you going to use trim for? As stated before though, not talking about water leaves, talking about the trim you get from trimming buds after harvest.

I hope that wasnt too much detail, I love turning BHO into wax :3
 
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menudo84

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No problem. Now you just need to get growing a strain good for producing hash i.e. one with the right resin DNA sleestCK tenacity were the trichomes fall off easily for collecting as kief. DNA Sleestack or Seedsman Sleestack x Skunk is a good one as are many of the Himalayan landrace charas strains.

I am from the mecca of marijuana and i can easily go to a dispensary and buy 4-5 different clones to start a farm I just need to get the grow supplies. but again thank you!
 

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^ I was just in L.A. Trees are cheap as hell, I dunno what clubs you've been hitting up. Sure, you can find some places with the top shelf being at a bit, um... inflated price... but in general, the mid level stuff is fantastic and costs a third of what the very best does. But as always, no specific price discussion.

Merging into our mega.
 

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^ I was just in L.A. Trees are cheap as hell, I dunno what clubs you've been hitting up. Sure, you can find some places with the top shelf being at a bit, um... inflated price... but in general, the mid level stuff is fantastic and costs a third of what the very best does. But as always, no specific price discussion.

Merging into our mega.

It depends on the clinic you go to. Tons of clinics in LA rip you off on prices, but there are oodles of amaizng clubs that do nothing but hook up their patients. Some of them have become my extended family. You create bonds. Lol.
 

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I've read that cannabinoids are best extracted with SUB-critical CO2. It's still a lot of pressure, more than some oxygen/nitrogen tanks. Possible but very technical or expensive.

I don't think a butane extraction is technically supercritical or even subcritical, more like a alkane extraction made quicker due to the low boiling point. I have wondered if there's some kind of CFC, fluorocarbon or other halocarbon that could be used. They would be non-flammable. Downside is CFCs are banned in most of the world due to ozone depletion, some are potent anesthetics, some carcinogens, and many halocarbons are potent greenhouse gases:(.

Has anyone tried a base-acid extraction of hash oil? Most the cannabinoids are carboxylic acids and will dissolve in alkaline water, at least according to some papers and patents.

Haven't done hash oil yet, for I'm happy with dank and hashish. Someday though.
 

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It's very interesting but I am struggling to see that the cost-benefit analysis is in favor of using that method. I mean for the individual is the end really worth the means?
 

Chainer

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I was gonna recommend an LA club, but idk if it's allowed on this forum...

...Is it?

Nah sorry, opens the flood gates for a whole lotta issues the very small mod staff (um.. me and neko) do not want to deal with. also comes really damn close to breaking BLUA if not outright
 

blaze 57

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Dry Ice-Trim question

Watching a few You Tube vids on the dry ice hash....does your trim have to be dried first or can you throw it in right off the plant (fresh)...thanks
 

blaze 57

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Either is okay. Hoewever personally I can't say I would bother with the whole dry ice thing.
thanks...do you think the ice water extraction is better?...I personally have not done either one just trying to figure out what to do with the trim. I guess the ice water extraction definately wont matter if its dry weed either since its immersed in water anyway.
 

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Standard ice extraction with ice and water works just fine and the hash it produces is as good as most would want. Using dry ice will just make it unnecessarily complicated in my opinion.

If you want better quality hash, make a trichome tumbler since it allows you to avoid washing away valuable terpenes.
 
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