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Harm Reduction Meth: Am I smoking more than recommended?

A K

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Hi fellow bluelighters,
I want to know if I am using too much of meth these days. I did not weigh earlier while using it. I bought a half gram back in June this year but now left with 0.07gm. That would be 0.43gm used in 6 months and 17 times. Can some one tell me if I am still doing ok regarding the use and frequency. Normally I use it twice a month but last month my use has been high and that's why I am concerned a bit.
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
 
Hey, meth is not recommended to be used at all. However, i won't judge you, because first of all, i never judge. And second of all, i am an alcoholic. An addict. Fucking things up on a regular basis.

You had it so well under control. The using. Regain that control, before the meth starts to control you. Please?
 
Hey, meth is not recommended to be used at all. However, i won't judge you, because first of all, i never judge. And second of all, i am an alcoholic. An addict. Fucking things up on a regular basis.

You had it so well under control. The using. Regain that control, before the meth starts to control you. Please?
Thanks bro, yea I know. I started it for recreational purposes but I think it is getting out of control now. Actually it is the porn that triggers my meth binge. Whenever I am alone, I crave for porn and then it goes.
 
I had it twice a week instead last month, so came out to be 6-7 times overall for the month. I think I finished about a point in last two weeks.
A point over 2 weeks isn't a lot. I'd suggest you keep an eye on it and try to maintain your control. Don't let it control you.
 
A point over 2 weeks isn't a lot. I'd suggest you keep an eye on it and try to maintain your control. Don't let it control you.
yup thats what I felt, I think it's overpowering me as my tolerance has increased and I just don't want to let that happen. Will surely try to pause it for a while.
 
A half gram over several months is pretty much still at the level of “experimenting with meth” rather than “using meth” for most people.

If you don’t use any more than that then you will be one of the lucky few people able to use meth recreationally.

Personally, if I bought a gram of meth I would not be able to close it again until it was completely empty maybe 36-48 hours later. And then I’d probably go back and buy a half ounce because of how bad I felt seeing that empty little gram bag.

You are very sensible to be cautious with meth. If you keep using watch out for these things and come back and talk to us more if you notice them:

1. Using more than once per week
2. Staying awake more than 48 hours when you do use
3. Using every week or weekend consecutovely/regularly
4. Not wanting to do your usual social activities - especially sexual ones - without taking meth first
5. Regularly using alone and secretly and being the only person you know socially who does use.
6. Changing your ROA from smoking or thinking about it in order to get a bigger high
7. Increasing the average amount you use per session (you might change it once or twice initially until you find your sweet spot - but after that be careful).

All these things are signs you might be headed for trouble. Just one of them is worth having a big re-think about continuing to use meth. Having 3-4 of them is a sign you should be talking to an expert about your growing problem. We have a few such experts here happy to help if that happens.

Edit: i just saw your additional more recent posts. You are at risk of getting into a serious problem I think. Especially with the porn dimension to your use.
 
A half gram over several months is pretty much still at the level of “experimenting with meth” rather than “using meth” for most people.

If you don’t use any more than that then you will be one of the lucky few people able to use meth recreationally.

Personally, if I bought a gram of meth I would not be able to close it again until it was completely empty maybe 36-48 hours later. And then I’d probably go back and buy a half ounce because of how bad I felt seeing that empty little gram bag.

You are very sensible to be cautious with meth. If you keep using watch out for these things and come back and talk to us more if you notice them:

1. Using more than once per week
2. Staying awake more than 48 hours when you do use
3. Using every week or weekend consecutovely/regularly
4. Not wanting to do your usual social activities - especially sexual ones - without taking meth first
5. Regularly using alone and secretly and being the only person you know socially who does use.
6. Changing your ROA from smoking or thinking about it in order to get a bigger high
7. Increasing the average amount you use per session (you might change it once or twice initially until you find your sweet spot - but after that be careful).

All these things are signs you might be headed for trouble. Just one of them is worth having a big re-think about continuing to use meth. Having 3-4 of them is a sign you should be talking to an expert about your growing problem. We have a few such experts here happy to help if that happens.

Edit: i just saw your additional more recent posts. You are at risk of getting into a serious problem I think. Especially with the porn dimension to your use.
Hey mate,
yes I was using it once or twice a month but last month I saw a spike in the frequency of use, 7 times in the last month, that's what is troubling me. I am able to control the urge for few days but then somehow I give in esp when the thoughts of playing porn and getting high come to my mind when I am alone. Of the points you mentioned above, 1,3 are applicable since last month and point 5 in general. What do you suggest ?
 
You are not in too deep waters @A K But it is very good that you are cautious, even concerned about your use. You can still return to rare occasions of recreational meth use, or no using at all. But the longer you postpone it, the harder it gets.

Read carefully the replies you get from experienced people in this thread. Stimulants are not my shit. Unless caffeine and nicotine count, and i don't think they count here. Meth is a different ball game.

I wish strength to you :)
 
Any meth is "more than recommended". That being said, I think that a half gram in 6 months is probably not going to cause you to have any severe psychological issues. Are you binging or using once and a while? What is the pattern of your use? I read your other posts... This is the problem with highly addictive drugs you justify the increase in frequency as no big deal or whatever. Once or twice a month, sure. Don't go past that if you're getting really spun. I would suggest a break of at least a month. Let your body reset and whatnot.
 
I suggest not combining it with porn, or maybe even not watching porn at all. I know that it seems natural to do it that way (and am guilty of it myself). Speaking of myself, however, I always feel better about myself the next day if I resist the porn when I use stimulants. Plus, you might accomplish something or just enjoy being social online or something while high instead.

A point in two weeks is not excessive sounding to me. I only use occasionally and sometimes I like to take a point to a point and a half in a single line. Of course then I'm high for a whole day.
 
Hey mate,
yes I was using it once or twice a month but last month I saw a spike in the frequency of use, 7 times in the last month, that's what is troubling me. I am able to control the urge for few days but then somehow I give in esp when the thoughts of playing porn and getting high come to my mind when I am alone. Of the points you mentioned above, 1,3 are applicable since last month and point 5 in general. What do you suggest ?
There is little doubt you are at the fork in the road where you need to put serious conscious effort into stoping meth use altogether or accepting that you are gping to be a regular user who is prepared to pay the price that involves even before you get to the serious costs that will come if your regular using grows into full-blown addiction.

I was a user who managed to limit my use to binges for a while, and I did not have to worry about working or family, but binges did not take long to go from 2 days to 2 weeks to 2 months before I could get a grip and stop for a while. At the end of each binge I was using 1g per day. This pattern is extremely common.

Also, when I began using meth I loved a good 8 hour porn and fapfest. After about a year or so, that had turned into very expensive chemsex orgies involving 3 or 4 asian hookers and a couple of transexuals. Once even a very expensive midget dominatrix hooker - I kid you not. This also not uncommon amongst meth users. In fact it’s pretty tame compared to what some people here have confessed to.

Your real risks even at moderate but regular weekly usage are:

1. Making and keeping friends and having a decent social life not based on dealers and hookers.

2. Finding and keeping a decent job and advancing in your career whatever it may be.

3. Acquiring and developing new skills - through education, training, or experience that will help you move up in life.

4. An increasing lack of morivation towards just about everything normal people appreciate amd value (like in 1. 2. & 3. above)

5. Gradual health issues no matter how much you try and mitigatec them. Including internal cardio-vascular issues that you don’t feel now but that could take years off the end off your life.

6. Gradual but significant changes in your psychology, personality and character that are usually negative and that seem to get worse when you try and stop using or binging.

Lots of people accept all these things as a reasonable price to play for the pleasures of meth. Especially in a place like America where it is so cheap. It’s a bit more challenging here in Australia where meth costs 10x what it does in the US.

Though on the plus side we have much better welfare, free medicine, free education, and lots of state-funded resources to put fucked up drug-fiends back together again if they need it.

I don’t want to overplay things or scare you into stopping. I love meth, have used a tonne of it, am currently abstinent and want to stay that way for a long time, but I admit I’ll probably use it again some time.

Do note though, that the compulsions you feel to use are normal, that they will stop after a few weeks if you stop soon and lead a healthy fulfilling life, but they can be triggered again in the future by different things (like watching the same porn again when you are a bit depressed).

If you do quit soon you also need to be prepared for the possibility of a soul-destroying comedown if you have any kind of anxiety or depression issues already. Post again in that case for further advice on managing.
 
I was a user who managed to limit my use to binges for a while, and I did not have to worry about working or family, but binges did not take long to go from 2 days to 2 weeks to 2 months before I could get a grip and stop for a while. At the end of each binge I was using 1g per day. This pattern is extremely common.

Also, when I began using meth I loved a good 8 hour porn and fapfest. After about a year or so, that had turned into very expensive chemsex orgies involving 3 or 4 asian hookers and a couple of transexuals. Once even a very expensive midget dominatrix hooker - I kid you not. This also not uncommon amongst meth users. In fact it’s pretty tame compared to what some people here have confessed to.

Your real risks even at moderate but regular weekly usage are:

1. Making and keeping friends and having a decent social life not based on dealers and hookers.

2. Finding and keeping a decent job and advancing in your career whatever it may be.

3. Acquiring and developing new skills - through education, training, or experience that will help you move up in life.

4. An increasing lack of morivation towards just about everything normal people appreciate amd value (like in 1. 2. & 3. above)

5. Gradual health issues no matter how much you try and mitigatec them. Including internal cardio-vascular issues that you don’t feel now but that could take years off the end off your life.

6. Gradual but significant changes in your psychology, personality and character that are usually negative and that seem to get worse when you try and stop using or binging.

Lots of people accept all these things as a reasonable price to play for the pleasures of meth. Especially in a place like America where it is so cheap. It’s a bit more challenging here in Australia where meth costs 10x what it does in the US.

Though on the plus side we have much better welfare, free medicine, free education, and lots of state-funded resources to put fucked up drug-fiends back together again if they need it.

I don’t want to overplay things or scare you into stopping. I love meth, have used a tonne of it, am currently abstinent and want to stay that way for a long time, but I admit I’ll probably use it again some time.

Do note though, that the compulsions you feel to use are normal, that they will stop after a few weeks if you stop soon and lead a healthy fulfilling life, but they can be triggered again in the future by different things (like watching the same porn again when you are a bit depressed).

If you do quit soon you also need to be prepared for the possibility of a soul-destroying comedown if you have any kind of anxiety or depression issues already. Post again in that case for further advice on managing.

Very well said all of that. Points 1, 2 and 3 are very important and where you also need to exercise self control in order to reap a positive outcome.
 
if you cant go 3/4 days without a drug then it has you in the beggining of an active addiction

if looking at porn makes you want meth then it has taken over your sexuality and made sex equal to drugs

this is bad because being horny or having sexual thoughts will create cravings

slippery slope

give it a huge gap and if you cannot then you know where you are heading
 
If you're anything like 9/10 meth smokers, then yes, you're smoking too much and just wasting product.
That ceiling gets very low very fast. Good news though that it's also the hardest ROA to "overdose" with.
 
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Hi fellow bluelighters,
I want to know if I am using too much of meth these days. I did not weigh earlier while using it. I bought a half gram back in June this year but now left with 0.07gm. That would be 0.43gm used in 6 months and 17 times. Can some one tell me if I am still doing ok regarding the use and frequency. Normally I use it twice a month but last month my use has been high and that's why I am concerned a bit.
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
As a meth addict for 27 years your doing pretty good . I will use that much in an hour I use approx an oz a week through smoking snorting and shooting I am also a heroin junkie and it takes the edge off the meth but if I get up and smoke out of my bong before I fix my heroin oh boy do I get tweeked ..to be honest this mexico crystal out there now is crap / garbage I want good old ephedrine crank from back when I started using I can sleep on this crap ...crank me and my buddy would slam a 1/4 gram and be tweeked for atleast 2 days
 
You'll know whether you're taking too much or not depending on your own individual reaction to it. I would say that if you're at the point where you're worrying about the amount you're taking that you can no longer enjoy the high, then you're already taking too much, because the worry itself is ruining the enjoyment of using it. Perhaps cut down a little or attempt a break for several months, then go back to a dosage that you feel comfortable with.

Always stick to the same basic principle. If the worry outweighs the enjoyment, then you're taking too much.
 
Any meth is "more than recommended".
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That said, smoking Meth is the worst ROA possible.

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