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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread 2022-2023 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

I was tripping a lot for a while (sometimes five days in a row, I'd end up eating 50-60mg 4-aco-dmt the fifth day to get effects) and now I've had to give it a long pause again because I've been going through an extreme mental health crisis. Had to miss a day of work last week which is very unlike me (I always show up, even when sick) and made me feel ashamed and further self-loathing.

I need my living situation to change, badly. But I don't believe it is within my power.
 
I have PTSD and anxiety is the main symptom but i want to try DMT. Would i have a bad trip because of my anxiety? I'm fine with lsd but last time i took shrooms it was 6-8 hours of crippling anxiety.

Just curious if anyone with an anxiety problem was able to use it and not go mad
 
Who knows @Jennn - each trip and tripper is idiosyncratic, it's pretty impossible to say definitively that you will or won't have an anxiety trip. I think the safe bet is that if you're concerned about anxiety then there's a good chance you'll have anxiety. I haven't ever taken DMT for the record, but I expect it to behave like other psychedelics in that regard. OTOH DMT is so short acting, maybe you can blast right past any anxiety and be back on earth before you know it.

They say MDMA therapy can be really good for PTSD but it's probably hard and expensive to find a therapist, not sure if that's within reach for you.
 
MDMA is more predictable than let's say the cocktail of active ingredients in mushrooms, or the lengthy LSD experience which can be harrowing come to manifesting.
MDMA is also being cut with Fent and stuff.
I plan on taking a group with me to ayahuascaville in South America and the coca fields for my honeymoon when I get married.
 
I have PTSD and anxiety is the main symptom but i want to try DMT. Would i have a bad trip because of my anxiety? I'm fine with lsd but last time i took shrooms it was 6-8 hours of crippling anxiety.

Just curious if anyone with an anxiety problem was able to use it and not go mad

DMT has a grandiose reputation because of the convenience of achieving "breakthrough". Besides that, i've perceived it as more benevolent and natural feeling than others. You don't have to go for large doses. You can have a 5 minute shroom-like trip with (at least for me) more pleasant body effects.
 
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I think the ballpark has been laid out: Around 15 minutes is what most people say.

A baby toke lasts for maybe 5 minutes, a medium-high dose maybe 5 minutes of intense tripping and 5 minutes comedown. A large dose will be like 5 minutes of complete obliteration, 5 minutes of intense tripping and 5 minutes comedown. Large doses is what people have been mostly referring to and comparing. There is a trend of embracing various dosages in current communities, though. DMT is pretty great not only for getting extremely high (or whatever you wanna call that state), but also for titrating and adjusting doses both in short and long term.

It seems to follow a similar time dynamic regardless of dose, but with higher doses you will spend longer time above psychoactive threshold.

This is for vaped doses. You can also use orally with MAOI (longest duration, equivalent to ayahuasca) and vape combined with oral or vaped MAOI (in between).
 
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Plugged an unknown amount of FXE today. I'd estimate around 200-250mgs. Had a terrifying experience to say the least but at the end of the day it was very spiritual and helped me to integrate a huge mistake that I made recently in selling the cryptocurrency token AURORA after holding it for 3 months. Missed out on at least 20,000$+ gains which is a lifechanging amount for me because I've been broke my whole life at 28. I have recently pivoted my investment to HEX on pulsechain and was watching the highest of stakes documentary which I highly recommend everyone checks out when I started tripping.

My delusions were strong I had the strongest feeling of doom and dread but had a belief that every decision I made was going to be critical to my future. I felt as if I was about to ruin my entire life (jail or death) or eternal hell or even if I made the right decision I was going to become mega rich and everything was going to be under my control.

Either way, I was able to cope with the experience by throwing myself into the shower and literally turning the water all the way cold as a way to embrace the suffering I was enduring. If I hadn't done this and called 911 instead I would have probably been kicked out of my university and been abandoned by my parents who have always supported me. I'm truly teeter tottering on a life of homelessness vs a life where I get a college degree and can actually have some sort of purpose in my life to help others who have walked this same path that I have. Been tripping and ordering drugs all the way back to the silk road days.

Anyways, it was all very intense and coming back here reading these posts about Charlie and the other things made me recognize how blessed I am to have survived today and learn to accept the loss of money that I had and try to move forward in this life without the use of drugs.

Sorry if this post seems scrambled or tangential but this is my personality and I genuinely don't have the desire to clean everything up.
 
I was tripping a lot for a while (sometimes five days in a row, I'd end up eating 50-60mg 4-aco-dmt the fifth day to get effects) and now I've had to give it a long pause again because I've been going through an extreme mental health crisis. Had to miss a day of work last week which is very unlike me (I always show up, even when sick) and made me feel ashamed and further self-loathing.

I need my living situation to change, badly. But I don't believe it is within my power.
Keep your head up brother. Were all feeling this. I know you can do it. Much respect and love to you!
 
How long does the trip last for?
Eternity ;) jk haha but it can feel like an eternity if you have a breakthrough experience. Personally though DMT was always lackluster in terms of trip intensity. I only experienced visuals and strong body load whenever I did it but my brain is probably fucked from the mass amounts of dissociatives/phenethylamines/thc/other psychs I've consumed in my life.
 
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I have PTSD and anxiety is the main symptom but i want to try DMT. Would i have a bad trip because of my anxiety? I'm fine with lsd but last time i took shrooms it was 6-8 hours of crippling anxiety.

Everyone here is assuming you're going to smoke it, but you didn't specify one way or the other. My only DMT experience is orally.

If taken orally, as part of ayahuasca or otherwise with an MAOI, the length of the trip can be from 2 to 7 hours, depending on circumstances, with stronger trips tending to go longer. I also found there to be a fairly narrow range of doses between a "dud" with only a body feeling and a "heroic" dose, which tears apart the ego. With mushrooms there seems to be a much wider range of "medium" doses. I personally haven't really had a high dose of mushrooms, and I tended to go for ayahuasca if I wanted a really intense experience being that I felt it to be more profound and ~2 hours of super-intense tripping is more than enough.

Just curious if anyone with an anxiety problem was able to use it and not go mad

There's no easy answer here, but if you are prone to anxiety, then you will likely encounter anxiety during trips on any psychedelic you use. Depending on the drug, dose, set, and setting, you may be able to steer your experience away from the anxiety, but in practice it can be difficult to control all of these things and you might end up in over your head at some point. When this happens, you can either fight it, in which case you may end up "stuck" in that state for a long time, or you can surrender to it. If you surrender to it, it will likely grow in intensity but may also generate new feelings, images, etc. It may take you back to the source of your PTSD. This could provide an opportunity to process the trauma, which could improve your symptoms afterwards, but it may force you to confront stuff that you aren't ready to process, which can leave you worse off afterwards.

My advice is to proceed with considerable caution and consult with an experienced therapist, if such is available to you. As noted by others above, most therapists prefer using MDMA over other psychedelics for PTSD treatments because it's more gentle and controllable for most people. That doesn't mean MDMA is always the better choice. It depends on the individual case. For some people (myself included) MDMA just doesn't work that well. If you decide to go this alone (which I cannot recommend), you should at least be supervised by a friend or family member who you can trust to provide the necessary emotional support through the process. It's also best if said supervisor has first-hand experience with psychedelics or MDMA if that's what's being used.
 
3MEOPCP and gabapentin is weird 😀 Very blurred vision and shaky hands. Seems to spur creativity though...
 
so the media claim ketamine killed matthew perry.
I just saw that too. Another ketamine drowning if we are to believe it. I wish people would stay away from bathtubs or hot tubs if they are dissociated.

Still though I think people die when they die and will always have things in their system.
3MEOPCP and gabapentin is weird 😀 Very blurred vision and shaky hands. Seems to spur creativity though...
I was gifted some FXE by someone em. I got about a 500 mgs. But I almost got the nerve to do a little when I was on gabapentin. Never did. I think my biggest concern is not use to being dissociated will I be able to care for my dog you know? But we will see. Something about gabapentin makes me brave. Lots of DMT trips on gabapentin. They synergize well. Gabapentin itself makes me creative when I use it.
 
Gabapentin itself makes me creative when I use it.
Interesting. I have so little experience of gabapentin so not sure if it's common, but if I take, I can sit for hours making music/tweaking synths. So fun. Must be careful though, most drugs that I've had problems with start, at least in part because of how creatively inspiring they are. It's how I first really dove into opioids many moons ago- I could take PST or codeine and just focus blissfully on music for days. OTOH, drugs that I dislike (nowadays) are things that kill creativity, like benzos and I certainly had a bad benzo habit years back.

I impulsively ordered 60x 800mg gabapentins and baclofen 4 or so months ago and have somewhat enjoyed the effects of both, but limiting to no more than twice a week. They go well together, of course potentiate each other, which is something to be aware of I guess. Baclofen is weird. I gave Miss Swilow 50mg and she had basically no effect beside nausea whereas I find it highly euphoric and kinda trippy too. I took 50mg with some 4homet last weekend and things got weirder than I expected 😎😀 On that note, a wee bit of 1p-LSD imbibed an hour ago is beginning to thread little tentacles of swirl through my mind 💚❤️💕❤️

Picked up a new car today. Love the clean feeling of a new car. So smooth. Hard to believe how commonplace the ownership and operation of these machines is 🤯

Quiet old PD thread. The loss of Cosmic Charlie still resounds...
 
I was gifted some FXE by someone em. I got about a 500 mgs. But I almost got the nerve to do a little when I was on gabapentin. Never did. I think my biggest concern is not use to being dissociated will I be able to care for my dog you know? But we will see. Something about gabapentin makes me brave. Lots of DMT trips on gabapentin. They synergize well. Gabapentin itself makes me creative when I use it.

My dog loved me when I was on DXM. They tune in. They're dogs. They don't care what the cause of the happiness is. They're pack animals.

There's a difference between death and dissociatives. One you wish on your fellow man, the other you don't.
 
My dog loved me when I was on DXM. They tune in. They're dogs. They don't care what the cause of the happiness is. They're pack animals.
My dogs over the years for sure tune in. Some differently than others. One dog I had just stared at me in the dark on a mushroom/harmala trip for two hours. My dog now is older, needs a lot of care. I am her eyes and ears at the moment. So totally different than say 4 years ago when she could take care of herself. So not sure what I want her to tune in on now. It is good to hear of taking DXM with your dog CT. Good info for me. Seems to be the same type of tune in as with a psychedelic.

Yes pack animals. So domesticated these days though. I always joked about walking through the woods and coming upon a pack of wild Cocker Spaniels or poodles. lol The domestication is amazing. Make me think any animal can be domesticated.
 
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