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Misc Psychoactive Animals (Producers and Consumers)

Limpet_Chicken said:
As tetrodotoxin-bearing pufferfish were mentioned, as an aside, also some newts produce it, newts of the genus Taricha, the red bellied newt, california newt and a couple of others, produce more than enough TTX to off someone.
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You could die from eating one of these?

Not sure if the Gila Monster was mentioned ITT, they're known to be venomous.
 
Someone online was telling me the other day that they partook in an iboga ceremony. At the end of this particular ceremony people had the bottoms of their legs burned in several places with a hot piece of metal, and into the burn they rubbed a toxin from a frog. I want to say it was a poison dart frog but I could be wrong. Anyway, the toxin is absorbed transdermally and then you become mind altered. My friend said that she believed it had an opiate quality to it.
 
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Reminds me of that guy who injects snake venom. I don't think he's doing it to get a buzz; I think it's more a masochistic thing. He looks very young for his age, almost too young.

Anyway, thanks for the guide OP- very interesting, and you've obviously done you're research.

I did have the dumb idea of buying a toad you can lick years back...dumb.
 
Zerrr said:
You could die from eating one of these?

Not sure if the Gila Monster was mentioned ITT, they're known to be venomous.
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gila is not recreational (no hallucinations, sedation, euphoria etc.)

but it does have anti parkinsons/memory enhancing qualities.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
I always thought salamanders and newts (for what difference there is between the two) looked cute as hell, especially fire salamanders, as to certain toads in the genus Atelopus, and TTX is also found in at least the eggs of one of the horseshoe crabs, Carcinoscorpius (monotypic genus), and to a degree seemingly the entire crab is toxic although it has been eaten, and as far as sealife goes its quite common, some polychaete worms of the nemertelline variety pack a heck of a punch in terms of body content of TTX and derivatives, and some use it as a venom, with an eversible proboscis, ala cone snails, as do the blue ringed octopi of the genus Hapalochlaena. Tiny, beautiful, but more than capable of killing humans via biting.

As tetrodotoxin-bearing pufferfish were mentioned, as an aside, also some newts produce it, newts of the genus Taricha, the red bellied newt, california newt and a couple of others, produce more than enough TTX to off someone.
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TTX is one of the most if not the most common toxin, fount in plenty of mollusks, fish, amphibians and crustaceans.

and it is indeed recreational, with reports here on bluelight and elsewhere of blotters with TTX being sold by RC sites and consumed with positive effects.

PS: I LOVE Ateopus frogs! coolest and one of the rarest genus of frogs with many beautiful colours.
 
Foreigner said:
Someone online was telling me the other day that they partook in an iboga ceremony. At the end of this particular ceremony people had the bottoms of their legs burned in several places with a hot piece of metal, and into the burn they rubbed a toxin from a frog. I want to say it was a poison dart frog but I could be wrong. Anyway, the toxin is absorbed transdermally and then you become mind altered. My friend said that she believed it had an opiate quality to it.
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this is almost definitely phyllomedusa genus (waxy frogs), aka sambo or kampo

not traditional of iboga rituals as they are from opposite sides of the earth

strange they would give a opioid after ibogaine
 
Someone I know had a cat that ate part of a five lined blue tail skink and the cat suffered some kind of permatrip. After I looked it up it seems there are many accounts of cats tripping out after eating these critters. I can't seem to find any info about what type of neurotoxin they produce. Pretty interesting though. I hope my kitty doesn't catch one!
Here's a video of a cat who ate one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovd4cp_muWQ

NO I AM NOT GOING TO SUGGEST ANYONE EAT A SKINK TO GET HIGH!!! Many stories of cats end in long recovery if the animal survives. I'm just curious about the nature of the toxin. The lady I know, her cat's head is always cocked sideways after the ordeal. WEIRD.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Spanish fly? cantharidin is just an irritant and nephrotoxin, its alleged aphrodisiac effect is caused by its irritation of the genital tract, inducing stimulation of those organs. Not recreational, extremely poisonous.
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your right.. will remove it from the list.

thank you
 
oar9fi said:
Someone I know had a cat that ate part of a five lined blue tail skink and the cat suffered some kind of permatrip. After I looked it up it seems there are many accounts of cats tripping out after eating these critters. I can't seem to find any info about what type of neurotoxin they produce. Pretty interesting though. I hope my kitty doesn't catch one!
Here's a video of a cat who ate one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovd4cp_muWQ

NO I AM NOT GOING TO SUGGEST ANYONE EAT A SKINK TO GET HIGH!!! Many stories of cats end in long recovery if the animal survives. I'm just curious about the nature of the toxin. The lady I know, her cat's head is always cocked sideways after the ordeal. WEIRD.
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ill add it to the possibly psychoactive list
 
the list has been updated; I added info on harvester ants being used as an entheogen by Californian Native American tribes

keep me updated on any you may hear of :)
 
I updated the list with some new ones, and some that people have suggested and removed one or two as well as per suggestions.
thanks for all the help so far!
if you can think of any more let me know :)
 
Well if you're out of viagra of cialis go find a Brazilian Wandering Spider, you'll be hard for hours just imagine all the great sex you could have with the 30 minutes you have left to live ;) Or if that's not your cup of tea I heard Bullet ants are amazing, go step in a nest of them and prepare for god like awesomeness.
 
iv been stung by a bullet ant relative... was not fun... and luckily most people survive wandering spider bites as there is a very efficient antivenom
 
Hey Cwest, great thread! A lot of very interesting information in there, thanks for putting it all together.
I'm not sure if this pertains to the thread since it seems like the focus is on compounds that are psychoactive in humans, but cats and catnip is definitely an interesting case of animals using psychoactives. Also, I recall tales of hedgehogs becoming intoxicated from eating fermented fruits (or something along those lines). And don't hummingbirds get some stimulant effects from sugars in nectar? I might be completely off since I can't quite find any info through some simple google searches, but I think it's interesting nonetheless.
 
[éS]Infinite said:
Hey Cwest, great thread! A lot of very interesting information in there, thanks for putting it all together.
I'm not sure if this pertains to the thread since it seems like the focus is on compounds that are psychoactive in humans, but cats and catnip is definitely an interesting case of animals using psychoactives. Also, I recall tales of hedgehogs becoming intoxicated from eating fermented fruits (or something along those lines). And don't hummingbirds get some stimulant effects from sugars in nectar? I might be completely off since I can't quite find any info through some simple google searches, but I think it's interesting nonetheless.
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I think the next thread I do is going to be animals that take drugs... well see id want to do it well before I put it out
 
Aren't you supposed to shake the toad in a bag with a bit of salt, let the toad go and consume the salt?
 
I sure hope not, I think the salt would be pretty harmful to the little toad, likely to absorb more of the salt than it would excrete on to the salt. From what i understand, you're supposed to milk their glands onto a flat dish of some sort.
And awesome to hear Cwest, I like learning about how other species alter their consciousness.
 
An interesting observance I had seen when the baby Bufo's are hoping all over the place the white Ibis we have here catch them and take them to the water and beat the crap out of them along the bank constantly squeezing them in and out of the water. I think they are removing the poison then woofing them down whole.
 
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