I also meant to mention I've been vaping CBD. It's legal here in KY not sure about where you are. Cannabis really helped but I've got a really good sales job that does randoms so I decided I couldn't do it. I'm a big believer in it though. I should be able to pass a test with CBD. I have some shoulder pain before kratom and withdrawals just made it worse. I feel like the CBD helped with it. Took about 3 days to notice it though. A big problem for me is the habit of actually taking the kratom. So I've been replacing times where I would normally dose kratom with CBD vape. It's kind of relaxing and helps me not focus on counting the minutes lol the vitamin c has kind of been doing it too. It may sound crazy but having something small to eat (vitamin C) kind of satisfies me where I would normally toss and wash my kratom.