- Sep 17, 2023
HumanityIsTheDevil said:By the same logic, i don't really have a choice, do i?
No, but I am part of your environment.
I don't think there is a high likelihood of convincing you (to love & forgive yourself) but that's not going to stop me trying.
If they fucked up in some kind of major way, then i would be worried if they didn't.
You can learn from your past without self-shaming. It doesn't help.
And what age are we talking about here?
Do you honestly believe small children should feel shame?
Narcissists think they are perfect, and narcissists are quite literally human trash in my eyes.
Narcissists think they are more perfect than others. Whereas, I am saying that everyone is perfect. I am at peace. I am not in conflict with anything in the universe. I don't think there are any mistakes.
Dissatisfaction is not synonymous with shame.
You have stumbled upon my overall point, here.
There are other - more effective - motivators than shame.
If that's the whole story, i'll just punch my mother in the face next time i see her.
If your mother is neglectful and abusive towards you as a small child and you punch her in the face, you shouldn't feel shame about that.
Instead, you should go on an introspective journey and try to understand why that event occurred.
Shame isn't going to help with that journey, IMO.
It's well documented that perpetrators of sexual abuse are very likely to have been sexually abused as children. We tend to just shame them and say they are "human trash" (to use your words) but how unfortunate for them to have been raised in that environment. I pity them. I don't think in terms of trash and non-trash when it comes to humans or sharks.
People like to shit on narcissists. Why? What about bi-polar people? Are they human trash?
I guess i should apply this to myself too, i'll give you that.
100%. You should. Let it go. Forgive yourself.