The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Part 2

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You have an interesting life, jesus, I'll give you that. Just get out the hospital from almost killing yourself on 3-meo-PCP and you're right into a massive dose of 5-meo-MIPT. How the hell are you even still alive? What's next, 5 mg of 25i NBOMe or just a shitload of heroin?

The fuge state that high doses leave some of us in is very much like a xanax black out where you do/consume things unintentionally. The last time I went over 20mgs I went from being catatonic to looking for my scale so I could redose even though I had know idea who or where I was. The only thing I could make out was that I thought it was time to redose. People use the term lucid to describe this chemical, I would replace lucid with shallow. Lower doses seem shallow and yet higher ones get you in trouble, I'm not a fan. I would still love to try 3-MeO-PCE
 
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IGrammar policing and value judgement aside, that's probably the most detailed negative experience report dealing with this substance that I have read. For those of us that haven't seen that side of the drug, it is substantially more revealing than other reports that eschew details in favor of a general "careful with this one or you'll end up in the psych ward." It's almost enough to make me want to destroy my sample, even after my "almost ++++" a couple of weekends ago.

I take it you haven't read Interview with a Ketamine Chemist?
 

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Finally wrapping my own thick head around the dark side of this material. I have seen the line between the good and the bad, maybe even crossed it but just been spared from tragedy. I'm not sure that for me it will be possible to take advantage of its benefits without the risk of something going terribly wrong. I'm finally able to harness that wonderful hypomania and the beautiful afterglow, but I definitely get the feeling that with both of my positive experiences a train wreck has been right around the corner. For the record, I have a somewhat undeserved moderately strong tolerance to dissociatives (ie. I take larger doses than most casual users).

I never finished my last write up, but it was a very rewarding experience with ~30mg. In the days after the experience, I was able to make considerable headway towards a long overdue change in career. However, the difference between that 30mg experience and my previous trial at 25mg was of an order of magnitude. It came on within 30 minutes and I became stuck on the idea of taking 5mg of 4-AcO-DMT to add a little tryptamine magic to the experience. It took me forever to find what I was looking for, and by the time I had all of my equipment ready to go, spatial distortion and loss of motor coordination made it impossible to weigh out an accurate dose. To this day I'm not sure if I actually took the tryptamine or not, but I'm about 80% sure I ended up taking 15mg (which is three times my originally intended dose and usually a very strong experience for me). I have a vague recollection of licking the powder off my weighing tray which is bizarre because I detest the taste of tryptamines.

Last night I had another go at 15mg towards the end of an 18 hour day of poly drug use. Some two hours after taking the 3-MeO-PCP once again I found myself in the position of wanting to take more drugs that I hadn't planned on. Suddenly I was in the kitchen with my vial of 2mg/ml DOC solution trying to measure out 800ug. If you look at my post history last night, you can sort of follow the jumps in logic that occurred there.

I was responding to a thread about combining MDMA and acid, wherein I commented on my lack of success in combining benzofurans with DOC. This lead to a post in the DOC B&D about threshold doses of DOC (now mostly sober I'm kind of proud at how coherent those posts came out, but each took me probably half an hour of one-eyed squinting at the screen to compose). Now I knew it was time for me to get to bed (as I said, this was near the end of an 18 hour day) and I had plans for today that would leave me with only about four-six hours of sleep for the night. My insane reasoning for taking the DOC microdose was that the long onset and subtle effects of a low dose would have me perking right up at around the time I was supposed to wake up today.

^Total batshit. Fortunately, spatial distortion, loss of motor control, and the inability to calculate the volume needed for 800ug from a 2mg/ml solution left me unable to dose the DOC. Since DOC is not a drug I care to recklessly ingest three times the intended amount of, the will to survive prevailed and I went to bed. I still have no problems sleeping on 3-MeO-PCP, regardless of the dose.

My point to all this is that yes, there is a strong urge to redose this drug at higher doses. Depending on what is available to you, there may be a strong urge to combine with other drugs. Disinhibition is great and judgement is severely impaired. Somatic effects of the drug make accurate dosing of materials while under the influence very problematic, if not impossible. Exercise extreme caution and take all necessary precautions before undertaking the experience: a knowledgeable trip sitter is highly recommended, any additional dugs intended to be taken should be weighed out or measured in advance, and it's probably a good idea to store your stash somewhere you won't be able to get it (preferably under lock and key in someone else's care so you don't shamble about in public trying to dig up your stash box from beneath a tree out back).
 

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i think if i ever get this stuff again i will invest in a time-locked safe... a safe which has a timer preventing it form being opened for a preset time after being locked.
 

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I'm still shocked so many people find this stuff moreish. At lower doses I find it sonly slightly disinhibiting, but very much mood-boosting, and energetic.

Seriously, I haven''t done yohga before.... but I'm pretty sure I made up my own while listening to Lateralus. :) But I never wanted more, or even thought about it, I knew any more could possibly lead to some unpleasant but short lived derealization/depersonalization symptoms.
 

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At low doses I actually find it lessish. As in I end up wishing I hadn't taken it at all. It actually has the opposite effect on me in low doses. I get lethargic, apathetic, and take a nap.

In fact, I don't even particularly enjoy large doses that much, which might be why I keep feeling compelled to take more or combine with other drugs. It feels like I'm almost there but not quite. Something small but crucial is missing.

I am a big fan of the afterglow from high doses though. It's the only dissociative I've really experimented with to actually give me an afterglow. The day after MXE or DXM I feel hungover, lazy, and listless. This stuff just leaves me feeling like the world is filled with possibilities and they are all so easily within my grasp. I feel optimistic and filled with purpose, more energized and alert even though I've had less sleep.
 

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i've been thinking about revisiting this stuff. when i was having issues with compulsive dosing i was in a pretty different situation in my life -- i was unemployed and out of school, stuck inside the house in the middle of the coldest winter the midwest has seen in a very long time. boredom drove me to overdosing. now, i have a lot of other things to keep me occupied. i'm working 24 hours a week and am taking 12 credit hours at school. i feel like i would be able to handle myself much better with it this time around.

i.e. i really don't think this is good stuff to get if you are the type of person that has a lot of time on their hands and likes to take drugs to cure boredom. you need a solid launch pad for this stuff. if you're following the path of least existence and you take this shit, the world will finally notice you, but it will be because of how batshit fucking crazy it makes you.

get your life together and try it. don't get into this stuff if you don't know what direction your life is headed in. this stuff will turn you into a rocket, you better make sure you've got a lot of open space in front of you or you're going to explode.
 

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i.e. i really don't think this is good stuff to get if you are the type of person that has a lot of time on their hands and likes to take drugs to cure boredom. you need a solid launch pad for this stuff. if you're following the path of least existence and you take this shit, the world will finally notice you, but it will be because of how batshit fucking crazy it makes you.


Nuff' said right there my friend! You are doing great! Forget it for a good bit! If you had trouble with control then, it usually follows you're not ever good with it.

You need all the attention and focus you can get at full time/12 hours! (just realized that could sound like me calling you dumb lol, I'm not, I'm not even taking 12 and it can be tough stuff.


At the place I wanna go after getting an A.S. they give all hoursover the 17th and below the for free23rd. I always wondered how those people don't go INSANE. Mabye I'm just a pussy lol

If you must get it, ask a friend if they can receive it for you, and hold onto it. If you don't have anyone willing to do that who can hold it, I wouldn't do it.
 

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well like i said above:

i think if i ever get this stuff again i will invest in a time-locked safe... a safe which has a timer preventing it form being opened for a preset time after being locked.

between that and actually having a sense of responsibility these days, i think i would be able to handle it.

no links since i don't want to source, but there are safes like that available for about the same price as a gram of this stuff. redosing was my #1 issue, past that i was golden.
 

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well like i said above:



between that and actually having a sense of responsibility these days, i think i would be able to handle it.

no links since i don't want to source, but there are safes like that available for about the same price as a gram of this stuff. redosing was my #1 issue, past that i was golden.


Sounds like you live inside of a 'safe emporium' or something, or else you're not being sold the chemical but gold dust in it's place (not asking about , just sayin'

That seems like overkill to me. And if I had it full of pills, and I was longing for them, jacked up in WD, I'd empty it on the next time it opened.... lo:)
and I thought they had a lid that opened on top for cash deposits. Unless you get one bolted to the floor, they're easy to turn over! We had one where I worked but three people couldn't have moved it.

You'd be better with a non-time safe with a key and letting a friend keep it (either the key or case), one of those cheaper fire-proof ones. That'd work because I wouldn't spend the time trying to get through that shit.
 

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the ones i'm looking at are made of super durable plastic... marketed for people that have a hard time controlling themselves with binge eating junk food or with driving while drunk (lock your keys for 12 hours) etc..... there are also thick metal ones available for less than $200 tho.
 

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I know some of y'all think I'm crazy by saying this, but I had nothing but stellar results with 3meo every since I conditioned my batch by laying it in the sun for a couple days. 5-10mg once or twice a day, it has been a lovely boost of light.
 

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. To this day I'm not sure if I actually took the tryptamine or not

Reminds me of one of my own experiences with 3-MeO-PCP. I had a bunch of Dihydrocodeine that I'd counted several times to 48 tablets. I have a memory of getting out like 6 or 8 of them and eating them while on the 3-MeO. The next day though I went to count the tablets to see how many I actually ate, and there were still 48. To this day I don't know if I counted them wrong several times originally, or if my memory of me eating some was falsified by the drug. 3-MeO-PCP is a weird one..

I know some of y'all think I'm crazy by saying this, but I had nothing but stellar results with 3meo every since I conditioned my batch by laying it in the sun for a couple days. 5-10mg once or twice a day, it has been a lovely boost of light.

I'm assuming this was done to maybe evaporate out some PCC? Why not just put it under a stronger heat for a shorter period of time?
 

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Why? Because. Why anything? Because everything.
I'm intrigued that so many people have experienced psychotic reactions to this chemical. When I had a batch I never felt like it was likley to happen, even on highish doses (20mg) and re-dosing. I also used it fairly regularly. Like maybe for a few days in a row. I also didn't really find it to be that much of a dissasosiative, more like a bump of k and a line of coke which lasted for ages.

I'm beginning to wonder if I had the real thing. It has a bitter numbing taste yes?

To be fair I was pretty cautious, as I had heard the horror stories.
 
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