Yes ^ because experience doesn't necessarily mean anything when the switch is flipped and it is not therapeutic either when you go amnestic and/or manic on something like 3-MeO-PCP.
Having your ego's ass handed to you on a platter on a heavy dose of a psychedelic is a difficult experience but it is in most cases not as dangerous as going too far with a dissociative like this.
Well it can turn into a trainwreck, if your set and/or setting are completely wrong, but that can be prevented more than what often happens in a psychotic / amnestic / manic state on dissociatives. As far as I can tell.
It seems with a typical psychedelic, things can go south at a normal 'vanilla' range dose if set and setting aren't paid very close attention to. I've never had a 'bad trip' but I've had ones that just weren't fun whatsoever - usually by myself, or me being the only one tripping where time dilation can get really uncomfortable. One time at a friends trashy house where they did meth I took a hit of what I was told was LSD but waS most likely an nBOME, probably not a DOX as those seem to have a stimulant edge to them which I don't like. I have felt weird, strange body loads and experienced psychedelic malise
(on most everyone.... except acid, probably the most limited experience I've had with any pscy but always the most positive, I feel it would be very hard to have a bad trip, but I'm sure i could do it if I ever decided I wanted to trip really hard by myself in the woods and took 10 hits lol) but not a totally 'bad trip' like I've read about in experience reports which people either get PTSD or come quite close, or experience very negative things that it takes them a long time to deal with, really bad/dark stuff.
Whereas, if you are taking sub-dissociation doses of 3-meo-pcp, it just makes you hypomanic; there is no mindfuck that could just hammer you like a weak rusty nail like a bad trip can. It generally just makes me feel creative, and I realize that I have the potential to be just as creative anytime, it just gives me a little energy, a pleasant feeling and the will to be creative, and the hypomania of course doesn't induce full on delusions of importance, it makes me like what I've written a bit more which in turn breeds more stuff. And it's not deluded because I can recognize things I don't like and most importantly I can look at what I did when I've been sober for a while, and it isn't just rambling non-sense. I've written poetry and a few short stories not for any purpose other than I enjoy writing prose and verse! It doesn't unbury creativity, like some people think they need drug x to be creative. Or make you infatuated with your brilliance (or me anyway), that you love everything you write, even meaningless stuff that embarasses you when you're sober. Losing the ability to be critical of yourself is a huge loss in artistic pursuits, but being 100% in agreement with yourself all the time is even worse. You should be confident in your abilities and choices but the reasons for your confidence, and your motivations should be examined often.
Venture into what isn't actually too much deeper mg/mg dose wise. The difference between 5-10 mg (literally those numbers) isn't a HUGE leap. The difference between 15-20 is actually like a 10 time bigger leap, and 20-25 a 100 time bigger leap than even the 15-20. At dissociative levels, the territory of those exponential dosage leaps i mentioned is when this drug can - hope it's not cliche - chew you up and spit you out. I say this because it's not like you took a drug, it's like the drug TOOK YOU.
It is now in control. I read this trip report about a guy taking it and letting his dad drive him to work, (maybe it was DXM?) you could tell he shouldn't have been out of his house. And anyone who's taken a large 1g plus dose of DXM knows that this stuff (3-meo-pcp) can get to a whole 'nother level of fucked up. I'm sure that capability exists with SUPER HIGH doses of powder DXM, but I've never done that, that would still be the baby just because of pure potency mg/mg and the difference in dissociation. DXMs is still functional if you don't go too high. This stuff becomes not to be, very fast, many times faster than you intended.
A good way I guess to put it re-reading Solipsis's post, is there is no degree of experience that will teach you how to be functional or do productive things once you're in the category. Without a trip sitter you can easily be a danger to yourself or others. The only way to be functional at 30-35 mg (but really the full on mindfuck effects would have happened way before, this is just an example) is slowly building up tolerance at lower doses. This would be a form of
mithridatism (wiki) - "
Mithridatism is the practice of protecting oneself against a poison by gradually self-administering non-lethal amounts. The word derives from Mithridates VI, the King of Pontus, who so feared being poisoned that he regularly ingested small doses, aiming to develop immunity."
Psychedelics can be taken in really high doses and still be fun if the person knows themselves and their reactions well and what they are doing, where they are, who they're with, and how they feel are taken into consideration. They can be miserable in fairly low doses if the person is the opposite in the wrong place, with the wrong people, with the wrong mindset - or any one of those things by themselves. Shulgin writes about bad trips:
“I don't know if you realize this, but there are some researchers - doctors - who are giving this kind of drug to volunteers, to see what the effects are, and they're doing it the proper scientific way, in clean white hospital rooms, away from trees and flowers and the wind, and they're surprised at how many of the experiments turn sour. They've never taken any sort of psychedelic themselves, needless to say. Their volunteers - they're called 'subjects,' of course - are given mescaline or LSD and they're all opened up to their surroundings, very sensitive to color and light and other people's emotions, and what are they given to react to? Metal bed-frames and plaster walls, and an occasional white coat carrying a clipboard. Sterility. Most of them say afterward that they'll never do it again.”
― Alexander Shulgin, Pihkal: A Chemical Love Story
With this stuff, dose is merely an indicator when you stop being functional at all, and to me it stops being fun. I don't know if you
can experience the dissociation without a bit of amnesia. Since ego can be lost, and control of reality become a bumbling parody of how much lower you can go than Hunter S. Thompson on ether. Seriously, you thought the depths of depravity was stumbling around on ether, I bet you they still knew who they were.