U.K. - Government urged to sell cocaine and ecstasy in pharmacies

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You make some good points. I hadn't seriously considered this one:
I say 25 myself. For all things, alcohol and tobacco included. The rate of synaptic plasticity after 25 significantly declines.
I gotta think about that. I was using several mind-altering chemicals by the age of 13, so my thinking might be off a bit. 😉

The illicit market for alcohol in the US has been essentially abolished since the passing of the 21ist amendment.
Mostly, yes. But as a lifelong resident of east Tennessee I must assure you that moonshine production and consumption is alive and well.
I've made it myself. I was living in the Smoky Mountains at the time and I just felt an obligation to uphold the tradition.
 

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Oh I’m sure it was wonderful product lol! I’ve had some incredible moonshine from the Ohio foothills but that’s probably nothin on the real stuff.

I guess the NE Ohio equivalent I had growing up was dudes distilling their own THC cartridges. Not quite the same.
 

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i believe cocaine is one of three drugs which should remain illegal and come with ways to help users with a addiction to it. Its literally funding terrorism in south america and central america everytime somebody uses cocaine they are support barbaic blood cartels who are x100 worse than even isis. Ecstasy should be legal though.
the only reason cocaine and any other drug is able to fund those evil "terrorists" is because the fucking drugs are illegal. wake the fuck up please. i'd like to know what the other two drugs are, opium and heroin? or cannabis? all plants causing much evil crimez against innocent humanz. because smart ass fatties in the west know better than to grow plants.
 
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i think people over estimate legalization of hard drugs it would not impact the situation in south and central america at all. illegal or legal changes nothing for the cartels they will still carry on the murder. Coca can't grow everywhere in the world and especially won't be able to grow in a UK climate. The other viable location for growth is south east asia outside of the tropical jungles of the americas. Cocaine is not like weed where people wont will kill each other over turf and growing areas. The land size required to support the consumption of cocaine for a legal market would also not be viable in most places expect the vast expanse of where its already grown by cartels. You can grow cannabis anywhere in the world. if people could grow coca anywhere they would be doing it already.

I think people don't realize the cartels will never change even if it was legal for them to grow. Money only matters and complete control. And i believe most people just don't want to accept the fact that every time they snorted cocaine myself included you have funded the most violent terror groups to ever walk the earth and have blood up your nose. This is a reason why i never would get back into doing cocaine.
dead wrong. Coca can grow anywhere in the world, its called a greenhouse. people grow it in UK, US, EU, Africa. wake up. cartels would have NO business if their illegal street buyers could to turn legal means. they wouldn't have rival gangs to compete and murder. they don't go around massacring the innocent. US already knows it could eliminate weed smuggling across the country if it went federally legal, there's absolutely no reason the same couldn't happen for any other drug. Someone said "drug use would go up" ... and?? legal drug markets would mean millions of high paying jobs and billions of people getting the mental health treatment they need. you jealous other people will get to experience some of the highs you've had in your privileged life?
 

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The problem is there are plenty of places likes China, Thailand, and Australia that will never make something like coke legal. Also they would just switch to another business; the gangs in Mexico are already heavily involved in the illegal fishing market.
 

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dead wrong. Coca can grow anywhere in the world, its called a greenhouse. people grow it in UK, US, EU, Africa. wake up. cartels would have NO business if their illegal street buyers could to turn legal means. they wouldn't have rival gangs to compete and murder. they don't go around massacring the innocent. US already knows it could eliminate weed smuggling across the country if it went federally legal, there's absolutely no reason the same couldn't happen for any other drug. Someone said "drug use would go up" ... and?? legal drug markets would mean millions of high paying jobs and billions of people getting the mental health treatment they need. you jealous other people will get to experience some of the highs you've had in your privileged life?
Without being rude and combative: there is one thing you're not factoring in and that is yield and whether or not it would be economically viable to produce Cocaine from your own Coca. And if you look and research nice: you would require one fucking HUGE greenhouse just to be able to produce 1kg. I'm not going into detail here as I've covered this very topic way too many times around these parts to the point of being anal about it I'm sure. "Anywhere in the world" nope. Wrong. Several places in the World: yep (already addressed and detailed on this thread by mysself if memory serves me correctly.
 

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I got a kick outta that netflix tard series
where they produce thousands of lbs of heron on 10 acres in the Ozarks
Yep. There's a big difference between growing Opium Poppies and making H. Also comes down to yield vs. space required. And not to mention complexity of producing the final product.
 

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The problem is there are plenty of places likes China, Thailand, and Australia that will never make something like coke legal. Also they would just switch to another business; the gangs in Mexico are already heavily involved in the illegal fishing market.
Or the wespons trade, making counterfeit money z etc but at least drugs would lose their horrible taboos
 

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Without being rude and combative: there is one thing you're not factoring in and that is yield and whether or not it would be economically viable to produce Cocaine from your own Coca. And if you look and research nice: you would require one fucking HUGE greenhouse just to be able to produce 1kg. I'm not going into detail here as I've covered this very topic way too many times around these parts to the point of being anal about it I'm sure. "Anywhere in the world" nope. Wrong. Several places in the World: yep (already addressed and detailed on this thread by mysself if memory serves me correctly.
U need a 1000kg of leaves to produce 1kg of cocsinexd. Bolivia Colombia Perú and Ecuador have enough land to make enough cocaine for the whole world too. And idk wjo said about making greenhouses for coca? Nah, too expensive. This shit grows back rapidly in the wilderness.
 

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And idk wjo said about making greenhouses for coca?
Somebody above on the thread somewhere. It has been done and tested and researched for sure.

How are you feeling? Happened to notice just yesterday on another thread that you're a bit feeling poorly. Was sorry to see that my man.
 

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Somebody above on the thread somewhere. It has been done and tested and researched for sure.

How are you feeling? Happened to notice just yesterday on another thread that you're a bit feeling poorly. Was sorry to see that my man.
Getting by mate. Thanks for asking. Well I try to not stress myself out and eat well. Hopefully covid 8s getting under control and i can gñfinallt gobto the hospital.✌🌈💯💫
 

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Yep. There's a big difference between growing Opium Poppies and making H. Also comes down to yield vs. space required. And not to mention complexity of producing the final product.

i know poppies grow in more areas but i think that too, you get a really low yield per poppie, so you gotta have a huge farm there too

i love the way poppies look - i need to grow some
 

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ut it has to be in a certain climate.
^^ True story. IN all of these greenhouse experiments they've had to spend oodles of boodle just to try simulate atmospheric pressure.

Tell you one thing though: you could make a decent living by just selling the leaves. And no: not of the teabag variety. There are numerous vendors selling the shit. And I did the math some time ago. Cheaper to buy the end product believe it or not.
 
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