Help What's the deal with the Tekashi69 MDMA/4-MMC combination pills?

[Psychestim]

So,

Saferparty.ch has recently tested multiple Tekashi69 pills that contained around 100mg MDMA & 100mg 4-MMC.

Test-result 1: https://www.saferparty.ch/warnungen/tekashi69-250323-020522
Test-result 2: https://www.saferparty.ch/warnungen/tekashi69-220422
Test-result 3: https://www.saferparty.ch/warnungen/tekashi69-250322

My question is, what's the reasoning behind this?
MDMA and 4-MMC are arguably both high-quality drugs and extremely enjoyable on their own so why mix the two and risk unwanted reactions? Is there some pharmacological explanation on why they would press both substances into one pill? MDMA and 4-MMC are both illegal, dirt cheap and abundantly available on the darknet so I don't see a reason why they would cut one substance with the other except for a wanted synergy that I am not aware of. Does anyone have experience with combining MDMA and mephedrone, or does anyone have an idea what the producers intentions were?

Thanks.

 

[G_Chem]

I was also wondering this.. As you say both are drugs that sell no problem as themselves, there has to be something extra with these pills to mix them. I’m guessing it makes for a much more intense peak but definitely doesn’t do the duration any favors. Probably the type of pills you’d want to eat all night long, maybe that’s the point?

-GC

 

[somnilicious]

They sound like they'd be wicked strong. I've taken both substances but I've never mixed them. Both drugs on their own are two of the most euphoric substances I've ever taken. I couldn't imagine how strong they would feel together because that's a solid dose of each. I'm guessing they would be extremely morish and would be conducive to compulsive redosing which is probably the point. Makes more money for the dealers.

 

[andyturbo]

This is extremely weird indeed

 

[Frazzled1990]

This has Serotonin Syndrome written all over it. Best avoided.

 

[Zork]

Could this be a way of getting rid of cathinones unexpectedly given to bulk MDMA suppliers?

This happened at the end of 2021 with Pharoh pills during a MDMA drought:

Experts warn of identical pills containing different drugs in the UK

Drugs charity The Loop found four 'pharaoh' pills in Manchester contained different substances.

www.bbc.com

Four different drugs found in 'Pharaoh' pills at Parklife festival

At a time when misselling is especially high, it is particularly important for users to get their drugs tested.

metro.co.uk

3-MMC was coincidentally banned in 2021 in the Netherlands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Methylmethcathinone#Legal_status

It also happened in 2008 during another MDMA drought:

Pill Reports - Ecstasy Test Results Database by Enlighten

pillreports.net

4-CMC
Pink Ferrari
Green Donkey Kong
Yellow Spongebob
Yellow Superman
Blue Pharaoh

3-MMC
Beige Louis Vuitton
Grey Louis Vuitton

EUTYLONE
Blue Soundcloud
Pink Pharaoh

 

[CRYSTAL8]

Could this be a way of getting rid of cathinones unexpectedly given to bulk MDMA suppliers?

This happened at the end of 2021 with Pharoh pills during a MDMA drought:

Experts warn of identical pills containing different drugs in the UK

Drugs charity The Loop found four 'pharaoh' pills in Manchester contained different substances.

www.bbc.com

Four different drugs found in 'Pharaoh' pills at Parklife festival

At a time when misselling is especially high, it is particularly important for users to get their drugs tested.

metro.co.uk

3-MMC was coincidentally banned in 2021 in the Netherlands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Methylmethcathinone#Legal_status

It also happened in 2008 during another MDMA drought:

Pill Reports - Ecstasy Test Results Database by Enlighten

pillreports.net

4-CMC
Pink Ferrari
Green Donkey Kong
Yellow Spongebob
Yellow Superman
Blue Pharaoh

3-MMC
Beige Louis Vuitton
Grey Louis Vuitton

EUTYLONE
Blue Soundcloud
Pink Pharaoh

Those would make more sense to pop up in an E pill because they werent scheduled last year. Mephedrone has been illegal for years.

 

[Zork]

Those would make more sense to pop up in an E pill because they werent scheduled last year. Mephedrone has been illegal for years.

If the pills were sold as one stamp and single color I would say it's due to it being recommended as a good combo. This stamp is multi-colored and some of the stamps are only testing for MDMA while others have the MDMA+4MMC combo.

They have been tested in 2019, 2020 and 2021 also:

DrugsData.org: Test Results

DrugsData.org lab analysis and drug checking results

drugsdata.org

 

[simstim]

I've never tried this particular combo, but I have combined bk-MDMA with 4-MMC quite a few times.

It changes the quality of the roll a fair bit. I actually don't really remember this being particularly better than 4-MMC alone. I mostly did this just because I had both drugs at the time.