Doesn't seem to be the consensus. Maybe by people who learn geocentric geography and refuse to admit when they're wrong but that's how people from the U.K always behave when you point out their inconsistencies.
but , could you say that again? ~takes notes. northern Ireland is.let me. erm me rethink, africa is south and not an isle south of the north , damn.wait i got this i shall shed this info on my spawn.......how do you . k nevermind that place by ,fukkn mericans and their knowledge or lack there of
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you too, i mean you two. i got this shit down nowUSA is the empire of today and last 100 or so years. People are envious and love to trash the more powerfull ones. As USA empire is basically ruling the world after WW2 and especially after 1990s they think of themselves and their country more highly, but more important - rest of the world that was in their shoes not so long ago and the part of the world that is under their boot as we speak (basically the whole west if the starting point is Greenwich) is jealous. Just as average Joe is jealous of his neighbour that has more going for him and is hating his boss cause he has to do what his boss tells him. And from here we get "let's mock USA and it's citizens cause we are jealous pricks who, as they can't behave like them, then they can lick wounds of their broken ego. And since there are so many of them and Youtube is at hand then we shall comfort ourselves that "they may be more wealthy and have stronger army but look how stupid this people are...have you seen that video about USA citizens responding to questions? They are so dumb...".
P.S. Educational system is plummeting all over western world and people are getting dumber and more compliant with everery generation. It is not USA thing. Just google "reality".
This hypothesis can be very wrong like every other but that is how I see it.
Have a nice day you all.
Yeah... I don't know if I necessarily buy that. A large number of people come from all over the world to our universities. Our ivy league colleges definitely more than match up with the colleges in the U.K. The problem is the difference in the universities. We're talking 5 public state colleges or more per state, not including all the private and ivy league schools. There is literally probably thousands of colleges in the United States. The quality greatly varies, unfortunately the best colleges are unaffordable except by the elites or those with highest honors.
the 'they' here refers to US students, apologies for being unclear based on my previous sentence regarding my difficulties studying in france. fwiw i just looked it up and actually french PhDs are 3 years, so the higher level there compared to here translates directly into less time needed for a student to earn a doctoral degree.
i'm not saying that all US universities are bad. that is clearly not the case, as per here:
see above. european doctoral programs are 3.5-4 years, and i have friends who went straight from UK PhDs to post docs in Ivy League/very highly ranked US universities and excelled. my experience and that of all academics who i've spoken to this about is that US students in general struggle significantly when they come to study in Europe at ostensibly the same level because their studies have not given the same level of preparation. we never had any exchange students from caltech or MIT, i suspect they'd have found it a walk in the park, but they represent the very top of the US (and indeed global) university system.
From what I was reading in regards to preparedness/course material for any given year/grade level it doesn't seem as simple as comparing one equivalent level in the US to that in the UK simply because of the way/order in which the course material is presented/given according to level because it doesn't seem to exactly transfer over equivocally by year. Meaning that their are stylistic differences and the focus of the material can differ as such in time and structure that it's not as simple as saying this year in studies in the US is equivalent to this year of studies in the UK. From a lot of the opinions I read from those involved on the academic sides from each for example a common refrain was that US universities focused more on real world applicibulities that corporations found desirable in graduates. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the timing, structure, focus and styles differ such that year equivalencies aren't as simple as saying 1US=1UK.the 'they' here refers to US students, apologies for being unclear based on my previous sentence regarding my difficulties studying in france. fwiw i just looked it up and actually french PhDs are 3 years, so the higher level there compared to here translates directly into less time needed for a student to earn a doctoral degree.
so, in general, french undergrad > UK undergrad > US undergrad and this is reflected by students from those systems needing 3, 3.5-4, 4.5-6 years, respectively, to complete their PhDs.
i'm not saying that all US universities are bad. that is clearly not the case, as per here:
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see above. european doctoral programs are 3.5-4 years, and i have friends who went straight from UK PhDs to post docs in Ivy League/very highly ranked US universities and excelled. my experience and that of all academics who i've spoken to this about is that US students in general struggle significantly when they come to study in Europe at ostensibly the same level because their studies have not given the same level of preparation. we never had any exchange students from caltech or MIT, i suspect they'd have found it a walk in the park, but they represent the very top of the US (and indeed global) university system.
conversely, the experience of academics who have taught at both US and European universities (including oxbridge, but not ivy league) is that, for the same year of study, European universities are teaching at a higher level.
we also have a large number of students coming from all over the world, even to mediocre universities. it doesn't mean anything about the level of teaching, its just that UK/US degrees are believed to be somehow better, regardless of whether the specific uni/course a student did actually was. China is realising this is dumb now and is working hard to
Look... I'm not gonna argue the semantics of this with you. You know it's not as simple as that and your able to read the exact same source material that I'm privy to. So we can drop the intellectual pretenses because we all know we're both only as smart as our damn smart phones., Oh learn' ed Britt. Neither one of us is doing anything but looking it up on Google so your well aware of the inconsistencies I speak of.
Yeah, the only way I was able to travel so much as a lower middle class American was because I had family that worked in the hotel industry. We would get highly discounted or free plane tickets and hotel rooms.
Well maybe you should because it's actually quite interesting. What part of N. Ireland do you live in?
So is Texas? This is a really silly semantical argument you picked. You know Texas gets to fly its flag at the same height as the U.S. flag? Because they recognized our prior sovereignty. North Ireland is debatably the same thing as calling Gaza a part of Israel, the Irish never wanted y'all there but you wouldn't fuck off. Scotland wanted freedom and the vote was quelled...
So is Texas? This is a really silly semantical argument you picked. You know Texas gets to fly its flag at the same height as the U.S. flag? Because they recognized our prior sovereignty. North Ireland is debatably the same thing as calling Gaza a part of Israel, the Irish never wanted y'all there but you wouldn't fuck off. Scotland wanted freedom and the vote was quelled...
Yer bein' silly mate
You should have heard what some family members in Ireland(South) said when I broached the subject with them. I should let you guys have a discussion....lol..