This is my conclusion of this so called Meth of 2023.. This pure Crystal meth that numerous people have posted links from the DEA lab tests that have said the meth is the purest it's ever been, is a freaking joke. A LIE. Honestly, after testing out multiple different batches, doing pure acetone wash on all of it, and honestly didn't even lose more than 5%, if that. So the stuff I've been getting is "pure". I tried shards and I tried stuff that was supposed to be made from Edphedrine (which was better than all the rest) but still just wasn't what it's supposed to be.
Someone from a previous post was arguing how meth is meth. The cartel meth is just meth. He said It all has one chemical chain and if it tests as meth, then it's meth, it's more pure, so the cartel meth is simply just meth.
Well coming from myself, a previous back yard chemist 20 years ago, it's not the same or better. I would be known to whip up a 1/2-1 pound every few days.
I'm not a chemist I'll admit, but I know how to research, I know how to read, I know how to debunk fake reports or reports that are stretching the facts. Here's what I have concluded from research and also from own trials and errors from doing it myself 20 years ago: yes its meth. I won't deny that. But here lies the problem, cooks have always been able to attain the precursors to make the chemical reaction. These chemicals have been pharmaceutical grade. Top notch. Now they are getting other chemicals to make the chemicals to make the reactions. This is done without proper measurements, without proper equipment, it's done out in the woods or big filthy warehouses. Yes they are still coming up with P2P and Methylamine, but the chemicals themselves are not as strong and pure. Good enough to still come out with end product testing as 90%+ pure meth because they have figured out how to seperate D/l which was the problem the first time P2P came out. But I believe this is what effects the "legs" of the high, this is what effects the quality of the high. 20 years ago there weren't people going mad walking down the road talking and yelling at people that aren't there. Mind you were staying up for weeks at a time and still not yelling at people that weren't there. My longest binge was something like 16 days, nothing more than an hour sleep every fews days. It wasn't good the last day, but still wasn't close to these crazies now. Back then there was no eating or sleeping on the stuff. It wasn't the norm to have fat tweekers. You did a line, or gut bombed 50ml- 100ml, or banged that much you were high high for at least 20-24 hrs. You were going! No way to make yourself sleep or stay still. I used to bang it back then, everyday one shot, as the days went on with no sleep, the number of shots per day would go up. But never more than two shots in a 24hr period. Same with doing lines and swallowing it. I used to like getting empty capsules and filling them. You take one, no burn, no mess, no taste, you don't feel anything for like 30 minutes, but then boom! Out of nowhere a rush of euphoria, a rush that some times was so intense it boarded on to much, it lasted a long time and then you were high for so long. Smoking it was something I never did. It didn't get me high I always figured it was because I went from lines to banging it pretty quick. When I finally first tried smoking it I'd already been banging it for at least a year. It did nothing for me.
With this stuff now, I can't speak to banging it, I won't go down that road. I'll stop cold turkey again before I do that. I have a whole case of points in my house for taking other meds, there is zero temptation or want there. But here's how it was 20 years ago: Before you even got done, it would make you cough. A cough that honestly I still crave to this day. I dream of that cough at times, still, this many years later. Then the rush, and no matter how long you'd been doing it, that rush was always there. It lasted a good 20-30 minutes. Then it was on like donkey kong for hours on end.
This stuff now, I will get high from swallowing it and doing lines, but it lasts 3-6 hours. It's never kept me up over night. I have to force myself to do something, once I do ill keep going, but it doesn't boast the same as it did and as long as it did. When I say you had no choice, I mean it, you could not just sit there. You could however stand there a peep out the window for 10hrs straight. We would always call them the tweeker tweeker window peeper. I'd kick them fools right out my house.
20 years ago the best product was peusdo and R/I reaction with ether as your puller, and not gassed. There were a few different methods then, the anhydrous ammonia-lithium batteries- pseudo being one of them. Not nearly as good. The cartel was using peusdo back then, but not sure on their reaction method, but it had similar problems as it does now, no legs. It would get you high, but you where sticking a needle in your arm every 4-6 hours.
When I first started using I heard about how it used to be even better. I couldn't even imagine it being even better. I didn't know why until I started to make it years later. Then they where able to attain hydriodic acid already made, and it was made in a controlled lab. A much better chemical. Then it was controlled so then we would have to make it ourselves which would give a less of a finished product. Still damn good though.
P2P is an old method, but even back then P2P wasnt the best, becuase it was racemic, it wasn't until Edphedrine and pseudo came out that meth became extremely good. Then it went to shit.
Like I said I'm not a chemist, but from my experiences, meth isn't just meth. It does matter how that chemical bond came to be.
