Pre-Gabs (Lyrica) first time?

[Zopiclone bandit]

Best example of aphex acid I can think of right now

Drukqs

The 26 mixes for cash is one I love so much. Oh God two Aphex Twin fans are off talking which causes the other 99.98% of the world to wonder what we love in that music. Being a fan of Mr James is like being a cult member imo.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I ate half a kilo of mince with a whole onion chopped into it, 35-40 mins later I was looking for more food

 

[Tranced]

I've taken 1200 - 1500mg in a day and turned into a fat cunt. That stuff makes you eat like a pig...

Mate try getting a buzz from gabapentin in a timely fashion without putting on a pound or two.

Necking pure tinned coconut (90+% fat) smoothies every hour, sometimes up to 5-6 times. Can take easily that long to feel it too.

 

[Forever Changes]

My Pregabalin experience:

Although I started off at very small doses and gradually increased, I did not at the time realise Preg's rapid tolerance onset. Pretty soon I was taking huge quantities.

When Preg worked, it felt really nice - a pleasant spaced-out buzzed. I doubt it would compare to opiates, but I much prefer it to alcohol which I can barely stomach any more, and Benzos never did much for me.

Problem is, I got to the point where I was consuming eye-watering amounts of Preg - not just a few 300mg capusles, but several grams - yes MANY GRAMS - sometimes in the region of 20 grams or even more of the stuff to feel the same effect!

What's worse, often I can consume this many grams of Preg and STILL feel nothing at all. Tolerance never seems to reset. I can go for weeks and weeks without popping a single capsule but then if I decide to try again I will still need many many grams, and even then I often get nothing from it -it's really frustrating. I think having an empty stomach may help perpetuate the effects perhaps.

Consuming such huge quantities of Preg at a time doesn't seem to have any immediate negative consequences to me - I don't get withdrawals or anything - although it can make me sleepy - but I am aware that binging on such a large amount of a relitively unknown and new-ish medication is reckless and may have unforseen detrimental long term effects on my body that aren't immediatley obvious (will it wreck my liver for instance?) So it does concern me.

And I'm envious of those who can get the nice effects from just popping a couple of capsules! You're lucky - my advice is beware of the rapid tolerance increasing

 

[tw9725577]

Pregabs Indian signature brand 300mg are very much stronger than lyrica UK brand. They r a potentiator making a better quality hit off any subsequent substance g=eat n stronger. But people who take Pregabs daily will be on dialysis for kidney damage you then have to detox off Pregabs. I got loads of signature brand vals xanax moggies n lorazepam

 

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Pregabs Indian signature brand 300mg are very much stronger than lyrica UK brand. They r a potentiator making a better quality hit off any subsequent substance g=eat n stronger. But people who take Pregabs daily will be on dialysis for kidney damage you then have to detox off Pregabs. I got loads of signature brand vals xanax moggies n lorazepam

How do you know the Signature brand is stronger than lyrica?

And can you link to a study indicating that Pregabalin causes kidney damage?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

How do you know the Signature brand is stronger than lyrica?

And can you link to a study indicating that Pregabalin causes kidney damage?

Yeh. Surely a 300mg dose should be the same regardless.

 

[MsDiz]

Pregabs Indian signature brand 300mg are very much stronger than lyrica UK brand. They r a potentiator making a better quality hit off any subsequent substance g=eat n stronger. But people who take Pregabs daily will be on dialysis for kidney damage you then have to detox off Pregabs. I got loads of signature brand vals xanax moggies n lorazepam

It’s pretty rare that pregabalin would cause an issue with the kidneys. Unless you have chronic kidney disease then it’s not a major worry. Even then, I’ve seen studies where it’s used to good effect for those with kidney issues.

 

[Forever Changes]

Yeh. Surely a 300mg dose should be the same regardless.

Wedinos says the Nervigesic Signature brand is legit, so it should be the same as Lyrica

It’s pretty rare that pregabalin would cause an issue with the kidneys. Unless you have chronic kidney disease then it’s not a major worry. Even then, I’ve seen studies where it’s used to good effect for those with kidney issues.

I know it's a relatively new drug, but are you aware of any detrimental effects to the body (in the same way that excess Paracetemol can cause liver damage for instance)?

I know that I take way too much Preg, but I don't take it daily (there's little point taking it daily, as I've discovered)

 

[BelleRed]

You're worrying me now, Changey. Nobpdy should not take drugs every day because there's 'no point', but because addiction ruins lives. Please feel free to have a chat if you need help.

 

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You're worrying me now, Changey. Nobpdy should not take drugs every day because there's 'no point', but because addiction ruins lives. Please feel free to have a chat if you need help.

I've had problems with addiction/substance abuse. The reason I said there's no point in taking Pregabalin every day is because as I mentioned in my post above, the tolerance is so rapid that I get no effect from it. Even when I abstain from Preg for quite a while the tolerance never seems to go back to 'normal' - which is why I have to take large amounts of it to feel the effect, and even then it often doesn't work. What worries me is whether taking that much Pregabalin at a time is toxic to some part of my body

 

[MsDiz]

Wedinos says the Nervigesic Signature brand is legit, so it should be the same as Lyrica



I know it's a relatively new drug, but are you aware of any detrimental effects to the body (in the same way that excess Paracetemol can cause liver damage for instance)?

I know that I take way too much Preg, but I don't take it daily (there's little point taking it daily, as I've discovered)

Dementia is definitely a big concern I’ve seen related to pregabalin. In cases of daily use.

I’ve seen cases of reversable encephalopathy with TWs (Triphasic waves) that you’d see on an EEG which is a form of brain damage when someone has taken overdoses.

It’s not good to take high doses of pregabalin, obviously. There are a lot more risks but it’s more to do with brain function, like lack of awareness etc.

 

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Dementia is definitely a big concern I’ve seen related to pregabalin. In cases of daily use.

I’ve seen cases of reversable encephalopathy with TWs (Triphasic waves) that you’d see on an EEG which is a form of brain damage when someone has taken overdoses.

It’s not good to take high doses of pregabalin, obviously. There are a lot more risks but it’s more to do with brain function, like lack of awareness etc.

I see what you're saying. But is it like long term alcohol use where it can fry your brain over years of drinking too much and develop dementia?

When I take a lot of Preg it gives me the spaced out, slightly stoned, lack of awareness feeling that I enjoy, but it usually only last until the follwing day and then I'm pretty much sober and normal again by the next night.

But then again sometimes I feel nothing at all from it, so I guess the rapid tolerance build up is ultimately a good thing from an HR point of view.

Is the brain damage reversible or permanent do you think?

 

[MsDiz]

I see what you're saying. But is it like long term alcohol use where it can fry your brain over years of drinking too much and develop dementia?

When I take a lot of Preg it gives me the spaced out, slightly stoned, lack of awareness feeling that I enjoy, but it usually only last until the follwing day and then I'm pretty much sober and normal again by the next night.

But then again sometimes I feel nothing at all from it, so I guess the rapid tolerance build up is ultimately a good thing from an HR point of view.

Is the brain damage reversible or permanent do you think?

The decline in mental cognition and dementia from daily use appears to be permanent. We are talking heads upon years of daily use though.

I used pregabalin as per my medical needs and I noticed the decline in my cognition. I had taken it for a 1 and a 1/2 years but upon stopping I definitely recovered.

The encephalopathy with TWs from pregabalin toxicity appears to be reversible but again, just a few studies on it that I’ve read.

 

[Forever Changes]

so large quantities occasionally, rather than smalller daily use might not be so bad?

I know you can't really answer that with any certainty, but at the moment Preg is the only recreational substance I have access to that (sometimes) works. I'm also experimenting with taking it sublingually.

Appreciate your advice MsDiz

 

[OpiateKiller]

My Pregabalin experience:

Although I started off at very small doses and gradually increased, I did not at the time realise Preg's rapid tolerance onset. Pretty soon I was taking huge quantities.

When Preg worked, it felt really nice - a pleasant spaced-out buzzed. I doubt it would compare to opiates, but I much prefer it to alcohol which I can barely stomach any more, and Benzos never did much for me.

Problem is, I got to the point where I was consuming eye-watering amounts of Preg - not just a few 300mg capusles, but several grams - yes MANY GRAMS - sometimes in the region of 20 grams or even more of the stuff to feel the same effect!

What's worse, often I can consume this many grams of Preg and STILL feel nothing at all. Tolerance never seems to reset. I can go for weeks and weeks without popping a single capsule but then if I decide to try again I will still need many many grams, and even then I often get nothing from it -it's really frustrating. I think having an empty stomach may help perpetuate the effects perhaps.

Consuming such huge quantities of Preg at a time doesn't seem to have any immediate negative consequences to me - I don't get withdrawals or anything - although it can make me sleepy - but I am aware that binging on such a large amount of a relitively unknown and new-ish medication is reckless and may have unforseen detrimental long term effects on my body that aren't immediatley obvious (will it wreck my liver for instance?) So it does concern me.

And I'm envious of those who can get the nice effects from just popping a couple of capsules! You're lucky - my advice is beware of the rapid tolerance increasing

Thanks for linking me here. Yeah the first night I took 1.5G and two days later needed 2-2.5G for same effect so what you’re saying makes perfect sense.

I do have cross tolerance from Gabapentin use and previous history of alcohol / benzo abuse…

Based of your account I’m probably better off running the other direction.

When you reached 20 grams a day, did it still sedate you and cause that drunk feeling?

I’d be using it mainly for the sleep. I haven’t slept through the night with anything but huge doses of benzos in the past 4 years.

It’s the only substance where I’ve gone to bed at 10 PM and woken up at 10 AM in one sleep

 

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Thanks for linking me here. Yeah the first night I took 1.5G and two days later needed 2-2.5G for same effect so what you’re saying makes perfect sense.

I do have cross tolerance from Gabapentin use and previous history of alcohol / benzo abuse…

Based of your account I’m probably better off running the other direction.

When you reached 20 grams a day, did it still sedate you and cause that drunk feeling?

I’d be using it mainly for the sleep. I haven’t slept through the night with anything but huge doses of benzos in the past 4 years.

It’s the only substance where I’ve gone to bed at 10 PM and woken up at 10 AM in one sleep

yeah sleep is a bitch for me - I'm even due to see a sleep specialist because I have such poor sleep- Pregabalin can make you fall asleep well but I woudn't recommend it as a sleep aid. There are things like Zopiclone for sleep, but to be honest the best way to go to sleep is to not take anything - maybe listen to some ambient noise or chillout music and have regular sleep habits. I've also tried Melatonin pills - the sleep hormone.

Pregabalin is weird - as I said I can take vast quantities and still feel completely sober. I certainly couldn't take the eqivalent amount of Benzodiazepines or I would probably be dead! Just stay safe...

 

[Bare_head]

Two old friends just got found dead was his gf and him apperently pregablin was involved. 600mg mixed with alcohol enough to kill i imagine?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Two old friends just got found dead was his gf and him apperently pregablin was involved. 600mg mixed with alcohol enough to kill i imagine?

Yes.

Have a look into the figures from Scotland for how dangerous this shit is, honestly it's poison & why people take it is beyond me.
Trust Pfizer to be pushing this shit.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Yes.

Have a look into the figures from Scotland for how dangerous this shit is, honestly it's poison & why people take it is beyond me.
Trust Pfizer to be pushing this shit.

Shit. I didn't realise that. I've had 1200mg of pregs and vodka many a time