rickolasnice said:
I just read a post from TwistedReality in the Bad Trip thread which made me remember that all of my salvia experiences (around 10) have included this kinda thing. It's like all existance, or a major part of it is on a conveyor belt, moving in whatever direction.
This is hard to explain so sorry but i'll try:
A few times i've done salvia it feels as though i am part of the machine. The machine being EVERYTHING. Reality and existance. It takes on a spherical shape and i am one side of it, looking through to the other (like i am a part of the inside of a ball looking at the other side) and everything i can see or hear is part of this same machine. The machine is constantly "rolling" as if it were a spherical conveyor belt.
Anyone else get this kinda conveyor belt feeling / hallucination?
Anyone have any ideas as to what causes it? (The push / pull feeling salvia gives probably has something to do with it)..
"conveyor belt"
ive been looking to describe my salvia trips ever since they happened, and i cant believe i never thought of that word
my trips were similar. reality completely dissolved, and next thing i knew i sort of fell into this contraption:
it was pure movement, as i was forcefully pushed and pulled and shredded in every direction, and i was part of that which was around me. and what was around me? a giant machine totally enclosing me (and it doesnt matter if you are claustrophobic, that part of your psyche is totally blown out of the water by now...) and i am part of that machine, but 'my' part keeps getting pulled and changed through-out the machine.
it has a metallicy-shiny look to it, but also a cartoony look as if it is a 'human brain machine' not a normal 'steam engine' machine. there were a lot of stripes and geometrics, sort of like a fractal machine
it was very traumatic at first, and when i came to i was part of the ceiling/wall and kneeling on the floor, and wondering whether this is real and im getting my mind back or is this another part of the trip?
once i was normal i just sat back and said 'holy fucking shit'
never have i been deeper into my consciousness, and never have i been that scared
there was several rows of me, probably 10 in each row
i got this too! there was an array of infinite yellow 'L' shapes which were all me
we were moving forward on the conveyor/assembly line (as G.I. joe dolls or some such nonsense) and there was a machine coming down to pick up each row. and i knew when my row was picked something bad was going to happen (death perhaps?) . i tried to jump off the line but couldnt move.
same, at the end of each section of the conveyor belt is a trip within a trip. a lot of times, the conveyor belt would go on, but i wouldnt be able to follow it, so i thought i was going to get lost in the abyss. once it receeded into darkness i was squeezed back onto the track, because spacetime behind me closed in on me
We're talking multiple dimensions and quantum physics -- in yo face!
that's how i feel. i feel like it's a clue on the track to both newer physics and how consciousness arises
rickolasnice - maybe what I feel is the same as your description of a conveyor belt, but I experience it as being on a perpetually turning Ferris Wheel.
Feeling as if I'm turning over and over and over and over ............. but knowing that I'm static at the same time. Weird. And not exactly comfortable. (This is only when smoked though, with tincture or plain leaf it doesn't happen).
I've read of this experience by others on this and other forums as well.
this is how i felt during my non breakthrough experience, and how i feel on low dose marijuana and/or alcohol. its just a vestibular hallucination, it feels like you're being linearly or centripitally accelerated when youre just sitting there
here are my two breakthroughs:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=301531
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=303081
the first link describes the machine and the conveyor belt and the cogs and a lot of similar wording to yours